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Mutame 210 reads
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Sounds like dude got turned out by this provider and he became obsessed. She rejected him and he got vindictive and decided to hurt her business. I'm just saying...

So finally did my first official review of this provider. Please read.  
She is great, is/was my go to girl. My hobby may have become an obsession with her. So my problem is she made a mistake I posted it along with a stunning review,Because she is absolutely amazing.  
She is now pissed that I posted that and wants me to take it down.
What should I do?  
She's a great girl and don't what to mess with her income. Granted she does have several great reviews and the one semi-negative is from a newbie member.  
What'll think

You write a review that heaps praise on her only to say she is a thief? Not understanding that part at all.

How did she steal from you? Did she go into your wallet? You found out later you were $380 short? How? You certainly "messed" with her income by writing tis review but If your story is true, her income should be "messed" with.

And I don't see any "great" reviews for her. A few decent ones, ok ones, but none I would call great.

Since you admit to obsessing over her, I would like to hear her side of the story before I would cast any judgment here. Sorry, but I do have some doubts about what you are saying here.

I'll save you some time JD. She's going to say she has never stole anything ... I don't see any great reviews for her either, but he's new and he obviously likes her. He seems very conflicted about telling the community or just giving her a pass and saying nothing. He would know that no good deed goes unpunished here in TERLand if he wasn't new. I don't try to make sense of the logic (or lack of) on here. I just pretend that I'm a character in a Kafka novel and it all makes sense.  
 

Posted By: JackDunphy
You write a review that heaps praise on her only to say she is a thief? Not understanding that part at all.  
   
 How did she steal from you? Did she go into your wallet? You found out later you were $380 short? How? You certainly "messed" with her income by writing tis review but If your story is true, her income should be "messed" with.  
   
 And I don't see any "great" reviews for her. A few decent ones, ok ones, but none I would call great.  
   
 Since you admit to obsessing over her, I would like to hear her side of the story before I would cast any judgment here. Sorry, but I do have some doubts about what you are saying here.

If she really stole money from you, I'm surprised you didn't put her in the "ripoff" section. If your story is true, and she didn't pay you back, why would you consider removing the review? If she paid you back, or if the whole thing was a misunderstanding, or miscommunication, then perhaps you shouldn't have posted the review, and should consider taking it down. However, a hobbyist can't simply remove his review. Once submitted it is TER's property and only they can remove it. If you really want to take it down, you need to contact admin, and ask them to remove it, giving them a compelling reason. Then it is still up to them if they want to remove it or not.

Its a true story.
Well she was my regular girl, and then that happened.
Never been too involved posting on TER until that happened.  
I guess I got the bug and got hooked on her and no one else compared. So I didn't need to post on TER.
Well I have learned.
I'm a newbie :)
No payback yet she talks that she will. That was not a misunderstanding.
You should have seen my face as her friend drove away.
Time I guess will tell what happens. Been a freaking movie script coning her to see me. Had to Jason Bourne her, with the throw away phone

Dmbs1431 reads

You should not pull it if TER even will let you.
The only reason you should pull it is if it is not the truth.
For what you said happens you were generous with your score or were scoring on your other experiences.
She is the one who messed with her potential income.

Yes very true. She was pulling on my heart strings yesterday.
I know I know
Grow a fucking pair.
I have

It may be that I'm too new to judge; ok... Fine.  I can admit that perhaps I'm green, though, I do have an opinion after having read your post and your review of your date...  

My thoughts are that your review makes no sense - bottom line - too many holes in the story. Your date went amazing, then all of a sudden... POW! She stole from you?

There is another disconnect in your review bc clients in Atlanta have many high-tiered providers to choose from, imo.... You've seen her several times. Posting a 7 in appearance?  Why continue to see a 7 when there are tons and tons of 8+ who can offer the same scoring in terms of performance?  Your score of the date made me wonder about the validity of your review.  

Did you contact the agency/her when you came to realize there was a discrepancy.  

So, what REALLY happened?  Will you share with us?  I feel there might be more to the review?

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First, the review with both praise and damnation: OP is sort of saying to me, "Services and their performance were good, but leave your wallet and other valuables in the car. Then, you should be OK."  He is NOT saying, "Service and their performance were bad. Stay away. Also, she robbed me, which is another reason to stay away."  

Then, the accusation: It seems very iffy and "he said / she said." We don't know what you're talking about. I'll assume paper money from your pocket (or wallet). Maybe the money fell out of your pocket someplace else, just before arriving. (Ask the hotel for access to their security tapes to see if you dropped in the hotel.) Maybe it fell out of your pocket in the room but fell behind or under something (a suitcase, a piece of furniture, the bottom of the window drapes, whatever) and she doesn't know what you're talking about because she never found it and the cleaning staff assumed it was their tip. The video from your last stop at the ATM might show the bills flittering to the ground as you take your receipt and get out of the way of the people waiting in line behind you. Maybe you lost the bills AFTER you left the room but didn't realize it until you went to pay for something.

What's the "he said" about the disappearance of the $380?  What's your story about the moolah and what was her response to the accusation? "Yes, I'm sorry I took your money."??? Has she replied at all?

Deleting or changing the review: While you can't delete the review yourself and it is up to TER to decide if there is enough reason to do so, I think there are other ways to "fix" things, should you decide to do so.  
- If it still EDITABLE, you can go and edit your review; probably no longer editable.  
- Ask TER to edit your review, if it is brief and simple. "Please remove this sentence: "..." and let everything else stand. (TER has done that in the past, e.g., removing too much info if it slipped past the TER examiner: "She has a nice apartment at 666 Main St. ..." becomes "She has a nice apartment ..."
- You can write a NEW review and submit that. Pretty just write the same review but leave out the accusation. If approved, it will REPLACE the old review and you only credit for one review, not two.  
- You can wait a while, see her again and write a new review. That new review will also REPLACE the original review

Never had any cash stolen from a date, but I have had a few lovely ladies that I was attached to all of a sudden go loco on me for no reason I could figure out other then bio rhythms, hormones, or they were just moody. Although it is a truism that there are plenty of fishes in the sea, it is not so easy finding one that not only is easy on the eyes, but does the things the you like, the way you like them. Once you find a lady like that, it is a bummer to lose her.  

My advise to you is to stick to your guns when you write a review. Don't try to curry favor with the lady you are writing about. Better to move on and find the next great one then cry around about the one who went from amazing to not so great. It happens, don't take it personally.

bonordonor345 reads

you're a donkey's ass. It's one thing to post your review, if that's what really happened and leave it at that. It's another thing to come to this board and ask for advise stating "she's pissed". Of course she's pissed.

I'd guess you loaned it to her and she didn't pay you back or you provided the money upfront for future services and that didn't happen. I can't imagine a scenario where she actually stole money from a guy she has seen 10 times. Especially having a number of decent reviews where this behavior has not been mentioned.

You sound pretty vindictive to me. BTW, $380 divided by 10 sessions is $38 each, maybe if you would have given her a tip, she wouldn't have had to finally take one!

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GaGambler342 reads

Your default setting is that the woman is honest and the guy is lying.

FWIW, his story has a definite ring of truth to it and I too have had money stolen from me by a woman I thought I could trust. In my case I suspected she had been stealing from me and counted my money very carefully before jumping in the shower, leaving her in the room alone. She left while I was in the shower and sure enough three hundred bucks was missing, of this I am 100% positive about.

What's even worse is that she was a hooker who had become my GF and all she had to do was ask and I would have given her the money, but dishonesty is dishonesty and assuming the OP is telling the truth he was doing the community a favor by warning us about her. Just because you have neither balls nor brains, don't blame the victim, blame the thief. If we weren't on the newbie board, I would tell you in a bit more detail what I think about your opinion.

bonordonor249 reads

I question his motive to write about it on the forum. I read all kinds of reviews about getting ripped off & believe them. But they never show up like this, in a newbie forum asking for opinions. If I truly got ripped off, I wouldn't give a shit what anyone else else thought.

GaGambler240 reads

He asked for advice not to be called cheap and a liar.

Why you took it upon yourself to White Knight for an accused thief with pretty lackluster reviews in the first place is beyond me. Guys like you are what discourages other guys to be honest about their less than stellar experiences.

Yes, of course she's pissed. Thieves are always pissed when they get caught and exposed. I don't see her denying any of this on the Atlanta board.

ahhh yes ill check the atlanta board.

would love to see what her response would be. just texted her tonight, she wanted to meet. yeah i have heard that story

that was TER that said I should ask on the newbie forum?
Ill post that email

I've said the guys here are their own worst enemy and this just is another example. Who knows if she stole the money? He thinks she did. She knows if she stole it or not, but it's not the most intelligent thing to infer based on limited information and draw the "predictable" conclusion that the provider is right and the guy is not. It's not like this provider has a bunch of 10/10 reviews so she wouldn't possibly do anything like steal. The guy is new and I read this as, her service is good- does stealing belong in one of her reviews? One thing is certain, guys have to be out of their mind to pass any negative information to their fellow enthusiasts because he will be called a liar, douchebag, ass, or whatever. The WKing on here has reached  a ridiculous level.  I expect some providers to chime in, but for another guy to use that "default" stance of, the provider is always right! is just fucking stupid and it shows a true lack of balls. And you wonder why all the reviews start to sound the same! Take a guess. I read a few of her reviews and one thing that I did see was that she's broke a lot. One review said the guy had to front her gas money before the session. Does that mean she stole? No, but people who are broke all the time do dumb things.  

TER was started out of frustration of guys getting ripped off by providers. Some guys seem to have forgotten that

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Yeah, she has been short on cash. Will not say why. But that does cause a person do to dumb things. She has some stressful times coming up.
I wish her the best.

donkey ass? maybe a sucker
TER customer service said to post it on here, on the newbie forum  
I know she's pissed she told me after and during we had sex yesterday
Im pissed also
No loan Im not a bank
no upfront we were going to do it that day
10 or more times and she did steal it  
oh I'm not vindictive just maybe head over heals for her, my fault yes.

I was reading the review, and it seems that she was your favorite but stole $380 from you. I am not disputing your story because it might be true, but how do you know that she stole $380.00 from you? Did you catch her in you Wallet or pockets? Did you give her the donation and then she left without rendering service? It seems vague to me.  

Now, like others mentioned, you did messed with her income based upon accusations of stealing from you. If she did those things then I am sorry to hear that, but if it's false, then the right thing to do is change the review.  Making false accusation could have serious ramifications on your hobby life.  Like a provider mentioned above,  there are more established providers that are willing to see you but maybe afraid to see you if the review isn't true. Hope for the best.

see story  
that was not a false accusation. She knows what she did, we had sex yesterday and i gave her 100.00 more
can you say sucker.

So I typed a damn long response. And was logged off. Fuck
Next time copy and paste.
I will respond with the whole story.
This time on a computer not a tablet.
Stand by.
Newbie

Ok here we go one more time.
i started seeing Whitney back in January. I have seen other TER members but mostly back page.  
I started a membership prior to this incident because I thought I better start posting to see other term providers. bp was getting a little weird and scary. the po po and all.
Whitney and i started of the first time a hh visit. I was amazed the first time. she was a little out of my price range for a full hr. but at a hh it was normal price for me. I was hooked. She asked if i was on TER review at that time , I was not so there was a interview process. All good. As my review stated the sex was great. over time it was a gfe experience. I was still being others but as I became a regular with her her prices came down for me. By that time the other girls did not compare, my needs of giving oral, fingering, seeing her pleased, eye contact, and full tongue kissing was what got me hooked. Other girls did not compare. I was seeing her at some times twice a week. At that point i was a regular and at 160-200 hr. with feeling like the only one. I just did not find anyone to compare. SO all this to lead into last week.
we really felt comforable together, at least I did. WE ended up a full GFE experience. that she only does with one other client. I was told I was getting it for less of a rate because we had something but i would need to tip once and a while or at least do the 240 hr occasional. Which we agreed upon 240 then 140 each session.
i was happy , and I think she was?
So last week went do that we would meet she was back in a hotel from where we had usually met which was at her private residence. All ok normal, she had her roommate there saw her in the car, she said she needed to get cash on her debit card to pay for the hotel, via price line. did that priceline didn't work she needed to put more money on her card so we then went to her bank I gave her my donation and she deposited it. Yeah a bone head move, def. for someone new but i kew her. that was not uncommon.  
so we go back to the hotel she need to give her id to the hotel room person and then she will call me. Next thing I know her room mate drives away. I didn't see her in the car so I didn't think anything of it. after a half hour I knew i was scammed. may calls and texts with no response that night. not until the next morning is when she texted me. her side.
longer story pretty much her roommate set her up and her friends tried to get them arrested. yada yada yada , a tall story.
whatever I am pissed i am out 380.00 and for a person that i felt i could trust and had a relationship with.

So I started to post negative review on TER and Escort babylon and others. Emailed her and etc.

no real response saying she would meet with me and never would  promises that where not kept. never would talk to me over the phone

I know freaking crazy soap opera movie. well, to get her I had to scam her got the throw away phone set it up and was waiting for her. Of course she said she couldn't talk because she was meeting a client, well that was me.  Pretty impressed with the Jason Bourne move.
she gave me the story that she hurts the people she really likes, she would pay me back , I offered to do the 2 hr or heck just do an hr. That was all shot down.
she then later texted me saying she would meet me yesterday but she need 100.00 and that we would do the 2 hr today.
yes I sucked in and did the 100 yesterday at least I got her story what ever that was. She really wanted that review dropped, maybe its my soft heart or lack of balls  some on here may say. So that is why i post that question on here.
so we have sex great of course, i said i would see what i could do.  hence posting here per customer support  
she was going to call me today at 10am to meet never called until 1 pm said she need to shower and we could meet. didn't get a call until 5pm by that time i was stuck in atlanta traffic.
didn't expect much today.
so thats the story.

 
ill to answer the questions hopefully this clears up so things

Why did I what to pull the ad down. A connection I had with her me being a sucker i guess

bonordonor263 reads

Yes, I would pull the ad. TER reviews are meant for a reference for guys seeking P4P experiences. If she did that on your first or second experience, it would be worth reporting. I don't see a danger in new clients getting "ripped off" if they are just seeking the normal services she advertises.

Your review will have an impact on her income stream. Disclosing she does BBFS will also have an impact on her income stream.

I think your relationship with her has gone past P4P, so IMHO, anything that happens between you two should stay between you two. Eventually you'll figure it out, and hopefully learn from it. If you are seeking a girlfriend, this is probably not the best place to look.

Good Luck.

Yeah don't totally agree with on that. Getting ripped off after you see someone for that many times. Just does seem right. I would like the new guy would get ripped.
I would never say the words bbfs,  
Seeking a girlfriend on the side, not here, ok.strictly hobbist

GaGambler253 reads

As long as you are telling the truth about her stealing from you, and I have no reason to doubt you, then yes you should absolutely warn the community that they have a thief in their midst. That is exactly what this site was designed for.  

Some guys like bonor donor have lost sight of the fact that this site is not simply an ad venue for hookers where we are supposed to overlook bad behavior as to not impact the girls business. Personally I think he is doing every guy on TER a disservice and you absolutely should not listen to him.

Wow. What a situation.  

You made some understandable newbie mistakes, thinking with the little head instead of the big head, but you haven't been burned too badly (yet). Time wasted, aggravation, etc.  

But SHE sounds totally nuts to have burned what seems to be (by your self-description of events) a nice, reliable, trusting guy. Will you ever pay in advance again? I DOUBT IT! Should you warn others not to pay in advance or to get a room if she has not shown up yet and so on? YES, YOU SHOULD!

You have now seen her again since your first review so you can just submit a new review. When it is approved, it will REPLACE your old review. You can retell the appearance and performance details and even say "this review is a composite from several meetings with her, not everything is from one session." And you can change the "she stole my money" part to more politely make the point about the risk of cash-and-dash or otherwise avoid going through with the meeting.

Two more things:

It sounds like you are getting a very substantial discount from her. She might be regretting that. Once the debt is settled, you might consider adding a little more to the envelope.

She sounds somewhat desperate. Why else would she take your money and run? She might regret the discount which only increases her feeling of desperation (to pay the rent? to pay some other bill?). When she's with you for X, she wishes she could be someplace else getting almost 2X.  That feeling of desperation could carry over to any other client she sees, hence the need to warn others

Thanks for the advice. Lots of newbie mistakes. People thinking I said  bbfs. Freaking A.  
Too crazy.  
Should have just stayed home that day.

All in all  

She's a great girl.

Burned that down

I will repost a new review they said I could not until 3 months

bonordonor201 reads

That you misrepresented the fact, which you did, and ask them to delete it, they probably will. Then you can submit a more accurate description of your experiences with her.

Your earlier post is correct. If they take down the review at his request (big if there) then he can submit another, but for a new review to replace an existing review, 3 months have to pass.  

Personally I think he should leave the review up, after reading his follow ups.

bonordonor177 reads

Posted By: perfectstorm
Your earlier post is correct. If they take down the review at his request (big if there) then he can submit another, but for a new review to replace an existing review, 3 months have to pass.  
   
 Personally I think he should leave the review up, after reading his follow ups.
I did it a couple of years ado.

Or, perhaps that was prior to them implementing the 90 day rule.

Mutame211 reads

Sounds like dude got turned out by this provider and he became obsessed. She rejected him and he got vindictive and decided to hurt her business. I'm just saying...

Ahh, maybe I was a good client that came offen and paid. If she didn't want to see me, it's called communication. If she really rejected me why would she still give me another session.
Here's that vindictive attitude getting thrown out there.  
I think posted an honest review is not vindictive, yes I probably could have been clearer on what all happened, give me a break it was my first review.
If I wanted to be vindictive, I could have done much worse. But that's not me.

Yeah that makes sense. I've seen people infer to the point of insanity on here, but this one takes it to a whole new level ... Just saying, you're fucking nuts.  

Posted By: Mutame
Sounds like dude got turned out by this provider and he became obsessed. She rejected him and he got vindictive and decided to hurt her business. I'm just saying...

bonordonor305 reads

You are looking for validation and not advice. I'm not sure how you could have done worse. You called her a thief and told all here, she provides BBFS to at least 2 mongers (lol). I'll stand by my opening statement.

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I guess I am a true newbie  
I never said bbfs  
I said a true girlfriend experience.  
She always made me wear a jimmy.
I guess I am a little nyeve when it comes to this game.

Don't worry if it's not there they will make it up and add it because they think TER is like faceBook. What kills me is its other guys fucking over other guys as if they will get a freebie someday.  
 

Posted By: Rovobra
I guess I am a true newbie  
 I never said bbfs  
 I said a true girlfriend experience.  
 She always made me wear a jimmy.  
 I guess I am a little nyeve when it comes to this game.

BBFS?

I guess I am a true newbie I never said that  
I said a true GFE experience with me and one other guy.  
I must be the nyeve person here.
She alway made me wear a condom. A I guess it was more I thought based on price and actions given.
Bono donor you may be right on some0 not that.

Do providers even offer that.?  
Risk vrs reward.  
Not worth it

All in all

She is good and I fucked it up.

Thank you

What a fucking soap opera

Thatsher252 reads

There is also a RIP-OFF button that you can apply when reviewing a scam as such. Providers who steal should be made aware of for others to stay away. Her income will suffer much more than the 380 stolen.

From reading the response that you put here, I am not sure if TER would change it. I think that if it is accurate account of what happened, they might tell you that you can not remove the review. You might have to wait 3 months after the review had posted to do another review to replace it.

However, from reading this, I must say that you might be getting taken advantage of. In the first part of the second response seemed vague quote below:

"WE ended up a full GFE experience. that she only does with one other client. I was told I was getting it for less of a rate because we had something but i would need to tip once and a while or at least do the 240 hr occasional. Which we agreed upon 240 then 140 each session."

From this statement here, I know that some of us assume you were talking about BBFS. I have to be honest with you there isn't such a unique thing as a special GFE. A GFE is a GFE unless it is BBFS, in which case both of you need to get checked. Now if she allowed you special trips around the island then that would be consider PSE or other things like that.
Then, in your response you quote this below:

"So last week went do that we would meet she was back in a hotel from where we had usually met which was at her private residence. All ok normal, she had her roommate there saw her in the car, she said she needed to get cash on her debit card to pay for the hotel, via price line. did that priceline didn't work she needed to put more money on her card so we then went to her bank I gave her my donation and she deposited it. "

This is a bad move such that even you admit. you will constantly get burn with these simple mistake. I got to be honest with you, I seriously think that the excuse she gave you was a lie. such as this quote below:

"so we go back to the hotel she need to give her id to the hotel room person and then she will call me. Next thing I know her room mate drives away. I didn't see her in the car so I didn't think anything of it. after a half hour I knew i was scammed. may calls and texts with no response that night. not until the next morning is when she texted me. her side.  
longer story pretty much her roommate set her up and her friends tried to get them arrested. "

I think that you were being used and setup, such that you admitted. Then you said this quote below:

"she gave me the story that she hurts the people she really likes, she would pay me back, I offered to do the 2 hr or heck just do an hr. That was all shot down.  
she then later texted me saying she would meet me yesterday but she need 100.00 and that we would do the 2 hr today. "

Now, She wasn't going to pay you back at all. Also, you have to give her an donation in order to get the 2 hrs. Dude you are being seriously used and that is not good. I would say that you need to see an established providers who are newbie friendly. I would of say agency that are newbie friendly, but you need someone to teach you about the hobby life because you are about to head on down a dangerous slope that if you continue this route, then you are going to lose more than just $480.00 ( $380.00 for the first part and $100.00 for the 2hr session). It seems that you are in Atlanta. I can recommend Ginger Taylor, Ilona Ezilon and some of their friends. They can give you great advice and teach you the ropes while having fun in the process. Stay safe and have fun.

 

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Thatsher242 reads

This is why ter exists. It is a forum to keep hobbyist's safe from a non regulated industry and if you follow the proven results from information provided here,  the odds are you should be stress free.  

If you are not already, I would get a VIP. That will give you all the inside information that you will need to make better decisions forward based on others experiences.  

For proven and best results when looking for a new provider, start by clicking on your areas top 100. Chose a girl who has an overall average score of 7.5 or higher.  Importantly, read the prior reviews. Many times like yourself a reviewer will give the girl a good score but give other important contradicting information in the VIP section.  

If it were me, I would have clicked RIP-OFF and gave her a 1

Thanks man! I just hope that he have fun in the hobby and be safe in it.

Thank your for the advice.  
I'm will take it. Just got home from work, if it wasn't dead tired in would type an update.
I'm need to be done with her.
Way to much drama and wasting of my time.

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