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Re: Backchannel?
kerri.bound See my TER Reviews 453 reads
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Exactly...

It's tough for newbies on both sides of the hobby. OP, I suggest extensively reading the info in the newbie self-help section (which ought to have a link in GIANT letters) if you haven't already.  There is advice there that might have helped you avoid your first snafu, and likely there is advice that can prevent the next (or at least you'll know to come to the board with a question first).

Once you get a couple of encounters under your belt, it will get easier!

zhun99992593 reads

I may have done some stupid things. I booked with a provider and she's really nice to me on the email. I passed the screening and we set up a meeting. Yesterday, I asked her if it is ok to tell her some of my needs so that we can enjoy better during the session. She said is okay. Therefore, I emailed her some of my needs such as role play, COF, CIM ,no bad languages and so on. She hasn't responded since then. I'm kinda new to this hobby. I don't know if these words were inappropriately or somewhat rude to her. After that I kinda feel sorry so I sent another email to here saying something like "I might be using some inappropriate language in the previous email. If that offended you, I'm so sorry about it.  
 
Was it really wrong saying those words through the email? Am I doing right sending an apology to her? I believe being polite is always a good thing. I might think too much but I'm not sure. I just don't want to ruin our date because of this, so if I did wrong. Please help me with this. :(

THANK YOU VERY MUCH

to use those kind of terms via phone or email with most providers.
Noticed I say most because there are some providers who will indulge in that kind of conversation.
If a gent sent me that kind of email I would not respond either or I would say I do not speak with people who are explicit like that via email.
I understand you are a new we all have been at one time.But yes definitely inappropriate.

You might have scared her off speaking like that and she decided to not respond although it probably would have been best to decline the appt versus leaving you wondering.
It was the right thing to apologize unfortunately it might be too late.
I am just speculating as no one but her knows why she is not responding to you anymore maybe she doesn't check her email regularly or maybe has been too busy.
Moving forward I would refrain from using that type of language by phone or email purchase VIP membership here so you can read her reviews and see which services she provides.If you do this you will not need to ask those type of questions you will have your answer already.

zhun9999649 reads

Well, I know I did wrong. That's why I sent the apology. However, because of the alternative screening, I've sent $100 for deposit to her in order to pass the screening. Is that mean I'm not going to get the deposit back? Thank you for you response. Anyway,  I'm still hoping her response though.

I can't speak regarding a deposit since I do not ask for one and every lady is different.
You never mentioned that in your original post.Has your appt date passed?Or coming soon?
How long has it been since you spoke with her last

zhun9999507 reads

Do you mind I PM. Really want some help. Newbies worries :(

I fully understand and accept that it is wrong to discuss details of service by phone or text -- and I assume also applies to email.  But, from your perspective, is there a right, or at least acceptable, way to determine and agree on services and donations before seeing each other in person? If she is on TER, that helps - altho even that is not reliable.  If you do not discuss details yet include statements like "satisfaction guaranteed" do I have the right to expect that the service I want will be available? If you won't discuss details, do you accept that the date would be cancelled if you can't reach mutual agreement re services/donation? I really hate the idea of inviting someone to come visit me and then cancel out when you can't reach agreement.  Even though I have no hesitation to close the door if the girl at the door is not the girl in her ad.

Posted By: jaydalee
to use those kind of terms via phone or email with most providers.  
 Noticed I say most because there are some providers who will indulge in that kind of conversation.  
 If a gent sent me that kind of email I would not respond either or I would say I do not speak with people who are explicit like that via email.  
 I understand you are a new we all have been at one time.But yes definitely inappropriate.  
   
 You might have scared her off speaking like that and she decided to not respond although it probably would have been best to decline the appt versus leaving you wondering.  
 It was the right thing to apologize unfortunately it might be too late.  
 I am just speculating as no one but her knows why she is not responding to you anymore maybe she doesn't check her email regularly or maybe has been too busy.  
 Moving forward I would refrain from using that type of language by phone or email purchase VIP membership here so you can read her reviews and see which services she provides.If you do this you will not need to ask those type of questions you will have your answer already.

Email and text messages, and even conversations over the phone are used by LE for entrapment. They become part of their investigation record, and you never know if they are investigating you or her, so in this hobby that kind of language is a BIG no-no. She now probably thinks you are LEO setting up the trap and you are black listed, they rather err on the side of caution.
Think of your dates with a provider as a blind date, you can rely on reviews to find out her likes and dislikes, and even then there are no guarantees. You won't really know how she will behave with you until you are with her. Kind of like not knowing the ending before you pick up the book, you have to read every page.  
I have been in several dates with ladies who normally wouldn't do certain things, but they opened up with me and got carried away like if we were a true couple. It really depends on how you treat her, and how compatible you both are. Always remember, they are not machines. They do get paid, but will only do what they feel comfortable doing.

PH

zhun9999476 reads

Thank you for your response. I already PM you. I hope you can help me with some questions. I will be really appreciated.

...acronyms such as COF and CIM.  To make matters worse, you sent her money as a deposit for the sex acts you described which you are agreeing her to perform.  Because of the constraints imposed on us by this board, I can only say that you made quite a boo-boo.

but then again she should have told you it's a no no to discuss such things via phone/text/e-mail. Always keep it light, read her reviews and this will be your biggest indicator of what she does and doesn't do. You can also backchannel and ask around but never send an e-mail that's inappropriate. Hopefully she understands you are new, but if not now you know what not to do.  

Good luck  

Roxanne

The OP has no reviews, many reviewers will not respond to clients seeking info if they haven't written a review.  

Posted By: RoxanneHeartNYC
but then again she should have told you it's a no no to discuss such things via phone/text/e-mail. Always keep it light, read her reviews and this will be your biggest indicator of what she does and doesn't do. You can also backchannel and ask around but never send an e-mail that's inappropriate. Hopefully she understands you are new, but if not now you know what not to do.  
   
 Good luck  
   
 Roxanne

Exactly...

It's tough for newbies on both sides of the hobby. OP, I suggest extensively reading the info in the newbie self-help section (which ought to have a link in GIANT letters) if you haven't already.  There is advice there that might have helped you avoid your first snafu, and likely there is advice that can prevent the next (or at least you'll know to come to the board with a question first).

Once you get a couple of encounters under your belt, it will get easier!

Part of being a newb is making newb mistakes.

Being a vet, I could have asked the same thing and been fine. Why? It's the way you word things and your approach. But that comes from time and experience.

You screwed up again by giving a deposit. Oh well, lessened learned.

There really shouldn't be a need to be going thru the alphabet with her with all the acronyms. That what the reviews, profiles and bc are for.

HH responded and said some will not get back to you bc but many will. I would advise sending out more bc communication so the odds will be in your favor that you will get at least some returns.

Don't beat yourself up and don't keep contacting this girl.

Give it time if you really want to see her again. I'm talking about months, not weeks, and apologize again and see what happens. Just don't stalk her. Move on to another girl and don't repeat the mistakes. We are human bro.

You have TWO posts about two DIFFERENT topics both called "Question from newbie."  Almost every post to the Newbie board is a Q from a newbie (or a friendly announcement, "Hay, I'm new here!").

Your subject lines should be more informative. That goes, in general, for all sorts of writing, whether it be in TER forums, business memos, ransom notes, etc.  

"Q about topics allowed for discussion prior to a meeting."
"What can I ask about after approval but before the meeting."  
..

zhun9999443 reads

Okay i see. Thank you for the advice. I will try to be more precise for the title next time.

With VIP, you can read the juicy details. If you like those details, you can say something like, "I read your reviews and I'm looking forward to an experience very much like Name had." or "... like Name describes."

You can tweak that a little bit. "... like Name describes except that I'm really not interested in the hand cuffs part.

zhun9999487 reads

Wow, learn so much. This is very useful, man. Thank you.

I made a somewhat similar mistake when I first started out and blew it with a lady I really wanted to see.

I doubt that the role-playing suggestion was problematic at all, but mentioning COF and CIM was way over the line.  You have to have a little more respect for the services offered by escorts as opposed to crack-whores standing on the street corner ready to give you anything you want

never mention sexual acts in any communication with a provider.  That's what LEO is looking for.  If you have special requests, save them for the face to face meeting.  Then ask, and if she is not going to do what you ask, take what she offers and move on.  If you have done the proper research on her, you should know what she will do and what she won't.

IMHO, you did not do your research this lady adequately.  Hopefully, after reading the responses to your query you will learn from the experience.

LLAP,
Swim

You want to use caution when using that type of language with a lady; especially being new.  If you have a VIP membership to TER you can read the reviews and find out what the lady is comfortable with and what she doesn't like.  

There is plenty of information out there on providers, but you need to do your homework and find it.  I am sure you will find plenty of ladies who will do the things you are looking for in a provider.

Finally, you can send her a message with an apology and mention that you were new.  If it doesn't work with her than chalk it up to a lesson learned and don't do it again.  If you have questions in the future there are many ladies and hobbyist on this board who are willing to help you out.

Good Luck

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