Because if not, it's just hearsay. I recently heard through the grapevine that I entertained a client at my home and introduced him to my kids. Ummmm, yeah that didn't happen.
So just because you read that a lady did it, doesn't make it true.
I'm sure it does happen, but please don't believe everything you hear/read.
Posted By: WhiteCloak
Is there any Hobbyist on here who would actually go for BBFS?
Isn't that just an open invitation for the 10 plagues?
Yes, clients do ask for this. I've even had men I've known for YEARS one day ask, "hey, you wouldn't consider doing away with the cover.... would you?" Nope.
There are guys who show up at every provider's door with their papers to prove they're "clean", sometimes offering the sun, moon & stars in exchange for it.
Then there are those who try to whip off the cover without our noticing and plunge back in.
Yup, these guys are out there. And some of them are quite seasoned, experienced hobbyists.
As to the "10 plagues"....... if that's what you really think, you should wear a fully body condom.
:-P
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HAHAH! That pic is GREAT! Made my day 
No of course I don't think that, but you know what I mean, it's the very definition of unsafe sex.
No. I personally have not in my limited encounters had the offer on the table. But I have noticed a few local (Baltimore) providers who in their reviews have had the BBFS mentioned.
Repeatedly. So I took it to be fact.
Also, I'd *almost* not believe you when you state that dudes try to sneak it in raw...but...you're probably not exaggerating
Not only will some dudes sneak the condom off, some will purposefully break it. Fucked up shit.
In any event, I'm sure ROGM will be here any second to tell you all about "his provider." He loves to brag about getting "BBFSCIP" in exchange for milk and diapers.
Posted By: WhiteCloak
HAHAH! That pic is GREAT! Made my day
No of course I don't think that, but you know what I mean, it's the very definition of unsafe sex.
No. I personally have not in my limited encounters had the offer on the table. But I have noticed a few local (Baltimore) providers who in their reviews have had the BBFS mentioned.
Repeatedly. So I took it to be fact.
Also, I'd *almost* not believe you when you state that dudes try to sneak it in raw...but...you're probably not exaggerating.
Hi Tobi
Who is this ROGM you speak so sarcastically of?
Most guys don't try but there are those few who do.
It's a good idea to blacklist those guys who try to sneak it in.
Debbie is right,
Now if the provider offered it to you then it's a different story. I will not knock anyone that does it, but I personally won't. There isn't any amount of money for that. Debbie also makes a great point some guys take off without you knowing it. Had a client literally try having intercourse so hard with the purpose of breaking it. God the world is full of different people.
Most definetly avoid!! Not only could you catch all kind of diseases but if she's offering it to you how many people does she offer that to? And im sure she's not seeing std test results on all especially if she diddnt ask you for any! Just no no no
Posted By: WhiteCloak
Noticed some providers actually offer BBFS.
The idea makes me shudder to my nethers. So question; even if you're only engaging in "covered" activities, probably a great idea to avoid those providers, no?
At that point even kissing or DATY carries far greater risk.
And also...just...what the fuck? Is there any Hobbyist on here who would actually go for BBFS?
Isn't that just an open invitation for the 10 plagues?
If two adults want to engage in uncovered activities...as long as both parties make the decision responsibly and rationally...what's the big deal? Providers and clients who engage in BBFS shouldn't be stigmatized for that. Can you really not see the appeal? And some people are willing to take a greater risk for that appeal.
So the question is really one of risk/reward. If it makes you uncomfortable, there's your answer 
I always urge people to do research on transmission, because I've found many have uninformed opinions on the issue.
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Oh wow.
Yes. The appeal is that condoms suck ass. Bareback is bliss.
HOWEVER! Providers and clients in general sleep with FAR more partners than the national average. Sometimes 3 or 4 times the average.
Your chances of getting HIV (leaving anal out of course) is very very minimal.
Your chances of getting a dozen other, non fatal, but nasty fucking std's is huge.
So sorry, but i strongly disagree. Engaging in uncovered sex (within the sex industry) is mind-blowingly stupid. Straight up fucking retarded.
My two cents
Personally, I don't do bbfs - but I think that those who do shouldn't be judged. Its a sexual preference. And there will always be a client base and always be providers who have and cater to that preference, so instead of just saying its bad don't do it, perhaps a more thoughtful approach could be adopted and safer protocols discussed... To minimize the increase of risk
We all know its more risky and perhaps excessively so for some pallets. Ok, so now what?
Posted By: WhiteCloak
Oh wow.
Yes. The appeal is that condoms suck ass. Bareback is bliss.
HOWEVER! Providers and clients in general sleep with FAR more partners than the national average. Sometimes 3 or 4 times the average.
Your chances of getting HIV (leaving anal out of course) is very very minimal.
Your chances of getting a dozen other, non fatal, but nasty fucking std's is huge.
So sorry, but i strongly disagree. Engaging in uncovered sex (within the sex industry) is mind-blowingly stupid. Straight up fucking retarded.
My two cents
Posted By: YourLauren
Personally, I don't do bbfs - but I think that those who do shouldn't be judged. Its a sexual preference. And there will always be a client base and always be providers who have and cater to that preference, so instead of just saying its bad don't do it, perhaps a more thoughtful approach could be adopted and safer protocols discussed... To minimize the increase of risk
We all know its more risky and perhaps excessively so for some pallets. Ok, so now what?
Haha. Now the thread dies!
Original question was whether clients avoid providers who offer bbfs...not really the dangers of bbfs. Topic got derailed somehow
Posted By: WhiteCloak
Oh wow.
Yes. The appeal is that condoms suck ass. Bareback is bliss.
HOWEVER! Providers and clients in general sleep with FAR more partners than the national average. Sometimes 3 or 4 times the average.
Your chances of getting HIV (leaving anal out of course) is very very minimal.
Your chances of getting a dozen other, non fatal, but nasty fucking std's is huge.
So sorry, but i strongly disagree. Engaging in uncovered sex (within the sex industry) is mind-blowingly stupid. Straight up fucking retarded.
My two cents
That when you refer to inviting the ten plagues, doing anything bare carries the same risk. The only thing you completely avoid when comparing BBFS to anything else bare is pregnancy.
Also, BBFS isn't something I offer, but it is something that is frequently asked about.
Posted By: Jess_CountryGirl
That when you refer to inviting the ten plagues, doing anything bare carries the same risk. The only thing you completely avoid when comparing BBFS to anything else bare is pregnancy.
Also, BBFS isn't something I offer, but it is something that is frequently asked about.
You're correct. Essentially.
For me personally, I like BBBJ, CIM, DATY, DATO and DFK. Those are the providers I would, going forward, only see. That carries a heaping dose of risk of STD's, without question.
Herpes, HPV, Gonorrhea, Chlamydia, Syphilis, and Hepatitis B are all possible with those activities.
BBFS introduces pregnancy, HIV and greater chances at all of the above (while technically you CAN get HIV with above mentioned activities, the risk is so low as to be almost inconsequential)
There's calculated risk, and then there's just being a dumb ass. BBFS is the latter
While I will agree that all sex has at least some risk to it, not all sex and not all bare activities carry the same amount of risk.
The risk of AIDS is much less for BBBJ than it is for BBFS and the risk of AIDS from BBFS in turn is much less than it is for BB Greek, and not by a narrow margin, but each activity has a hugely different risk.
Yes all sex has risk, but far from the "same risk" if you are going to be in this business you really should take the time to educate yourself a bit on the subject.
