Lets say you have seen a provider a few times and things are good. Then you find out through various means (performance degradation, behavior, and rumors) you find out the provider is addicted to drugs.
I have seen about 3 different providers that are addicted. Two I could tell right away, I could smell pot in their mouths. The third had some signs of cocaine addiction.
Some signs include weight loss and sensory deprivation. You have to do them a long time before they cum. Cocaine increases the amount of time before someone can get the O. You can tell because things just don't seem right. Some use coke so much that they can't tell the difference between a strong O and the urge to urinate.
I have seen some really attractive providers blow it big time. They could easily be making 10K a month and never have to advertise. You would think that all the money they make along with the pleasure they get that would be good enough the high.
Do you stop seeing the provider ?
How do you approach her to get her help to keep from being addicted the drugs ?
"You would think that all the money they make along with the pleasure they get that would be good enough the high."
I hate to break it to you, but many clients are not a pleasure to be with. I know that the providers tell you that they love each and every client: it's called marketing. There are some providers that might find pleasure in almost every client, I'm sure. Many providers take things in stride, the good with the not so good, and even with a sense of humor when need be. But there are some providers that do this because they have nothing to fall back on (like an education, career, etc.) and perhaps they need 'help' getting through the day. If they get into drugs, then they use the money for drugs instead of rent / food / bills and it becomes a vicious circle.
Personally, I would not see a provider that had a drug issue. Often, drama follows drug addictions and I'm sure it's not something that you want to have to worry about. You see a provider for stress relief, among other things. I would worry about the other people in her life and her state of mind. You sound compassionate so I'm sure that seeing a provider with a problem is not a barrel of laughs.
I am not sure what you could do for her, if anything. Maybe someone whose been there can shed some light.
Best,
Kate
Maybe you just don't know how to make them cum? If you choose not to see her again that is your choice, but you should hold off diagnosing any addictions. Those "signs of cocaine addiction" could be anything.
If you witness her doing drugs, than that is a different story. In that case you could let her know that you are concerned for her health and/or safety, and offer any help that you are capable of giving (other than more $ of course). There is a good chance that the next time you want to see her she may be 'busy', but if you are REALLY worried about her I think it’s worth it.
BTW-Where did you come up with your research ("they cant tell the difference between a strong O and the urge to urinate")? HAha 
kc
and just tell her the truth, you believe she needs to get help. This is all assuming she is actually addicted - big assumption on your part.
There is absolutly NOTHING YOU can do to get her the help though - totally up to her, you CAN guide her to resources, but actually taking the steps needed to recover are up to her.
I am personally a recovering addict from alcohol and other goodies I managed to imbibe in over thirty years ago during that wonderful police action in Nam - have been without for over 22 years now, but it is a battle that has to be fought daily - and with proper support.
In a survey we conducted for SWOP (Sex Workers Outreach Project), very few indy providers do drugs beyond pot and even pot is limited to about 25% occasional and about 11% regular. There's a fair chance you're seeing something that ain't there.
Out of the 15 providers that I have seen 3 have had the drug problems. All three are independents. Other providers are trying to help them to recovery at this time.
I've met quite a few ladies at various parties in my cities. Sometimes the conversations turn to recreational drugs. From comments made, I estimate a large majority use pot at least occasionally.
Also, I know of at least 4 independent ladies with significant drug problems (usually with cocaine or methamphetamine). In fact, I posted about one (no name) on a regional board the other day--she's very pretty with a great reputation, but when she's on a binge she's very unreliable and is a no-show to the clients.
Hobbyists aren't aware of her no-show behavior because she often gives make-up sessions for discount or free and begs the guy to be nice about the no-show.
It's interesting that your survey is so different from my city. I've heard that sometimes people lie on surveys on controversial subjects. Psychologically they want to look good even though the survery is anonymous.
I've heard of agencies that manipulate women with drugs. For one of the indies I saw, I knew had used pot before the session (smelled it). A couple indies have admitted to using it on these boards. However, for the most part, I've been pleasantly surprised at the lack of drugs I've seen. Definitely no more than in the general population, IMHO.
I hope providers don't use them that often. It certainly won't do a provider good to be busted for prostitution and then have a felony possession charge or two on top of that. An arrest is already an ordeal. Also, besides the obvious, drugs like coke or meth introduce an element of misjudgment into her clandestine life, and she really doesn't need that. It's already dangerous enough.
And if you're talking about heroin-- can you say AIDS risk?
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as for addiction (which I know my fair share about) there isn't too much you can do. Nobody can help someone who doesn't want to help themself.
Point out your concern and be there for them as a friend. I wouldn't suggest seeing them anymore as a client because then you are helping facilitate their addiction. But support them emotionally however you can or that they will let you.
Be well everyone
Drug use is a huge stereotype we get as providers. Im completely sober but to be honest with you it takes alot to get me to the O. I know quite a few other girls are like that to for a variety of reasons. Sometimes you aren't doing it right, anxiety, or she could just be tired/stressed (also can cause weight loss).
Not all guys can perform either for the same reasons. Do we blame it on drug abuse? No. And you have no idea how much money she makes. Sometimes business is good and other times not so much. She has bills to pay just like you do. Rent, groceries, utilities, car payments, cell/pager, internet bill, advertising, make-up/clothing/lingerie/hair/nails (so that we look nice for you gentleman) and sometimes daycare. Trust me if everyone relied on rumors then Im dead, dying, on drugs, homeless, a pimpstress, with a pimp, etc. Girls get jealous. Sometimes they start false rumors which as we all know can travel fast. They can try to ruin others business but usually only end up hurting their own. Sometimes its just a disgruntled client she requested not to see again. So before you go believing what others are saying or coming to assumptions before knowing the full truth why not sit down and tell her that you are concerned about her, ask if anythings wrong. If after a while you still aren't comfortable then perhaps it would be time to move onto a new provider...
Just my .02
Welcome, you had good points as well. I normally don't post but its a topic I feel strongly about. The girls at Http://www.escortblogs.net all did posts about this a while back regarding if we were like everyone stereotyped us to be addicts, sexually abused, etc. Several ladies keep blogs on there, including myself, so that guys can get to know the real us or keep up with what is going on in our lives.
about just how much pleasure they get out of escorting -either generally or with a specific client. Sometimes, I know it's justy plain old "work" to be "fabulous" or put up with some asshole just 'cuase he put some money on the table. Just a thought
Rather than guess about their habits, ascertain the truth in a heart-to-heart conversation or move on. I would have asked in a nice way what her drug choices were and although it will send alarm bells, I would rather put it on the table rather than be suspicious. If she became defensive then you have every right not see her again. That you have seen 3 of 15 with this condition is just bad luck or bottom fishing. You see, many of today's ladies have been just cleaned up enough to check into a decent hotel by their handlers. If you suspect but can't get satisfaction and are against drug usage, let your fingers do the walking and find ladies that do not use illegal substances in your presence or at the very least while she is working. You can't dictate what else she might do in those other hours. If there are tell-tale signs of heavy use, then say next.
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In my hobbying, I can honestly say that even with agency gals, they have to keep track of a lot of "stuff" and if they were on drugs, they probably could not function for an extended period of time... Stating that, I do know that several of my hobbiest friends share some of the same characteristics of highly functional people! (actually several have advanced degrees in a wide variety of academic disciplines although most seem to gravitate to psychology, go figure) and to an ordinary person - that makes them appear "odd" and THAT behaviour could be interpreted as being on something.... So my question is "are you a clinical psychologist or psychiatrist, to be able to make those types of diagnostic decisions?" If you are not, I would suggest that you "get out more and surround yourself with people other than those in the safety of your surburban existance...
And with respect to "do them a long time before they cum," That is without a doubt the most egotistical male centric statement I have ever encountered in my entire life (and I have encountered some huge egos). First, imagine seeing about 3-7 guys a day. Would you be able to fire off an O on # 4, how about #5, how about #7??? Seriously dude, while One provider may be going down the drug route, I seriously doubt that all are... And some I know are really not going that route due to their personal lives that are VERY full and rich.
With respect to those that are truly drug addicted - what will happen is that their performance will degrade, people will stop using them, and they will spiral down.... what can you do, only offer to help, but in no way should you enable....
see above - there was good advice in all of this... sorry for my rant, but really, think about your comments....
The provider that has the cocaine problem was seen early in the morning. She does not see alot of clients during the day.
If you know anything about cocaine it desentised the feelings for pleasure.
You are correct about the person not being functional for an extended period of time. The person provides, drugs out, and provides again in a cycle.
My atf is addicted to coke. She was in recovery when I met her but has fallen off the wagon. I'm thinking about helping her through detox and a rehab program but there is a lot to think about before I do this. No easy answers that I can see, other than to do the best my heart allows.