...What are the worst-case scenarios of things that could happen to her if she did become a provider (ladies, feel free to provide personal experiences or close-calls) ?
The second question is for 'joercny'. How and where are you going to be there for her if one these things happen?
I was wondering if any of the ladies especially might have any tips on how to introduce the idea of escorting to my lady friend/mistress. She's hit some desparate financial times and needs to make extra cash. She is 45, long legs, tall, runway model build and quite toned, fit, tanned. She could make a nice killing but I don't think the idea has ever crossed her mind. She only makes $25,000/yr and breaks her back to add another $8.000 moonlighting over the year. With her body, I think she could do that much a month.
Here's my plan: We got back in touch after a seven month layoff/fight. I'm married. She's not. Fight was because she wanted a proper relationship and she realizes now I wasn't kidding when I said I'm going to stay married. She's now playing coy about not wanting to see me. It's her game. I know I'll see her this weekend.
I planted some seeds this past month. Off-hand remarks like... I bet you $500 you could seduce me in 15 minutes...I'd like to be able to see you and help you out of your money problems...I'd like to talk sometime about an arrangement that will solve your money problems. But she doesn't get it. She says things like: What, is this bribe?... I don't know what you're getting at...sex isn't the most important part of our relationship....etc>
My little plan this weekend was to have sex with her and at the end talk over a little arrangement...I'd give her money each month for her morgage (it's only $500!) each time with meet for sex. I then wanted to find a way to seque into how she could make a huge (for her) amount of money by just entertaining a few gentleman for an hour a week. I mean, she works 20 hours overtime to make $200 and she couild make that in an hour!
Personality wise, she's smart, dresses very flashy, flashy car. She comes across as hot and available, but she's a cock tease in real life. She is a classic Scorpio woman, but she doesn't sleep around.
So, can anyone think of a smoother way to offer her my money? Is there a better way to introduce the idea of collecting a few hundred to spent the night with these five or six guys who are drooling over her around town?
A few caveats: This is a small rural town. Absolutely no agencies, so hooking her up with one isn't an option. She'd have to be indie.
My impressions that ladies are turned on to the profession by other professional ladies. My being a guy and her lover makes it awkward. Any ideas from the ladies? Gents are welcome,too
i assume you're kidding. FYI I'm not pimping her, or taking a cut. I'd be her steady client. If you only knew how badly she needs cash...her kids suck her dry.
Sorry, I assumed you were an Evangelical hobbyist/pimp. Those born again - let's convert our neighbor - people scare me. In any event, if "her kids are sucking her dry" she might want to change her diet or take parenting classes.
I do this parttime.. As someone told me once when I didn't understand why men didnt understand that. You go to a vending machine and you expect it to always be full of candy. Sometimes that just doesnt happen.
You are asking your lady to get in a VERY tough business, and for someone you care about it kind of putting her in harms way.
This business is Not about making quick cash and then leaving. Its about being safe, keeping one another safe. And walking on eggshells everyday.
To hook her up with another indy, Is alot of work for that girl "training her " . There are many qualifications to being an escort. Hot and charming is only 10% of it.
Knowing how to screen ( many different programs) Being totally knowledgable on a computer.Being resourceful.
And of course the old M-o. You gotta have money to make money. I probally put 800 -900 into the biz before I even started. And that was WAAAY back when.
If shes not comfortable taking your money, she doesnt sleeep around, are you sure this is the right thing for her ? I think you should ask her first. Or proposition her. Call her your UTR girl.After she likes those dollars, tell her you know of one or two friends. I am sure you backchannel with a few that you can give her name to.
Basically you are asking her to put herself in front of a train for a few bucks.
If you want to discuss it more, email me and then we can talk via phone if you like.
Ps. and dont tell her she can make 100k tax free. Its ok to get a 250 soliciting charge slapped on a girl. Not ok for the feds to get ya.. ( No matter how much an hourly rate is ) A dba only costs 60 dollars. ..
...flash and drives a flash car, and all this on $33K a year? And comes across as "hot and available," and she has YOU, her married civvie bf, begging to pay her $500 a pop? And she's 45, and you think of her as "virginal"? Joerc (HOW do you pronounce it?), I hate to tell you, but she's ALREADY a provider, and she's waiting till you raise the ante to, say, $1000 for a two-hour session with massage.
By flashy dresser I mean Victoria's Secret (on sale), not Versace. Car is flashy - a Misubishi Eclipse, used, with 88,000 miles on it. She's not "virginal" obviously. But she's recently divorced and hasn't been with more than a few men. I know her well.
...What are the worst-case scenarios of things that could happen to her if she did become a provider (ladies, feel free to provide personal experiences or close-calls) ?
The second question is for 'joercny'. How and where are you going to be there for her if one these things happen?
Remember, my initial post said she lives in a small (pop 5000) rural town. Also, she would be a semi-pro -- not a full-timer or someone working out of a East Village or Santa Monica motel. Her situation is that she has more than a few high-income guys lusting after her bod. Guys she knows, doctors, lawyers, judges, etc.; but she doesn't want to get entangled or tied down in a relationship . She wants to keep it light. My premise is to introduce her to the idea that if she gives these guys what they want, they can give her what she $$$ wants. My basic premise is how to smoothly introduce the topic. That's what I'm looking for. I'm already well acquainted of the trials and traps of full time urban escorting. But that's not what this is!
A mans networth means nothing. It doesnt say " Im safe" The most wealthiest people are normally the wackos.
so again. where will you be if something bad happens ? this business is not for the faint at heart.
Urban /surburban.. escorting is escorting.
If it were as easy as finding 4-5 guys to support any given girl here.. do you think wed be the marketing queens/gurus/safety police/designers that we are ?
Wed all quit, pick our 5 favorite men.. ask them their networth and go UTR.
Hello! Remember the social stigma of prostitution in the US?
If you complimented your girlfriend and pointed out web sites on acting or modeling, she'd be pleased. If you complimented her and pointed out escort web sites, she's going to get upset.
It takes a very unusual woman to become an escort because of the huge social stigma (and LE factors of course).
In the past, if a boyfriend had ever suggested I become an escort, I would have been greatly insulted. I knew little about escorts then and thought of them as street walkers; women of low class and quality.
Next, assuming you survive her slamming the door in your face, how are you going to explain why you know so much about this biz? Are you going to tell her about TER? Will she wonder if you're a member?
So, let's see, first you insult her, then it turns out you're an escort expert and are running around with who knows how many women?(Believe me, she will think the worst and be jealous of the other women.)
Now assuming she considers your idea and tries it, Ciara is 100% right in that it would be difficult to find 4-5 men who would sponsor her as a mistress.
Men who see escorts don't want mistresses--they want variety and they want to avoid emotional entanglements.
Finally, you said you thought she could easily make $8K in one month. At $200 an hour (probably the going rate for a mature lady in a small town), that adds up to 40 clients a month. That's one busy schedule indeed. (And for someone who doesn't sleep around, 40 guys a month might be a bit shocking, don't you think?)
Unless SHE has given you clues or hints, I think you are heading for trouble if you bring up this idea.
Better keep a hard hat handy when she decides to throw a book at you on your way out the door.
If she has several wealthy men lusting after her, if they are married, I am sure that if they do want her that badly, she can offer up a financial situation. She could be a kept woman by a few different wealthy men in town. She would have to sleep with them, I'm sure.
I echo Ciara's post about escorting being about much more than a hot body. She must have brains, business sense, computer literacy, street smarts, and more. At 45 years of age, I have a feeling that if she's never thought about escorting before, she might not consider it now.
If she has a hot body, a webcam, and can type, she can always be a webcam girl. It can pay really well, so I hear, and she won't have to sleep with anyone nor does it matter how many people are in her town. Just a thought...
About wealthy married men lusting after her bod. And yes, she has brains, a sharp wit, computer skills and all the rest. Yes, she could easily be a kept woman.
I think that you are trying to marginalize her and you feel guilty about the upset and are trying to continue to fuck her but have it at a level that is comfortable for YOU.
tell her to move out of that one horse town and find something to do elsewhere. You may not realize that ho'ing has a huge effect on someone, it's not just 'oh I bet you can make 500 in 15 min', that's idiotic. In fact as I think of it, you can't care for her very much on an emotional level if you are trying to turn her into a ho. Do you have some finanical aspect in mind ? It's also a class C or d felony in most states to promote prostitution. Which is why so many of us sort of live in our own seperate little worlds. Leave her alone.
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