Flattered, grateful, and signing up for more indeed. Her comeback price to me puts her at the very low end of the local scale, and she constantly gets 8's to 10's in both categories. Hey, maybe we should discuss inflated ratings...nah, been there, done that.
We've heard many ladies talk about the behind the scenes effort that goes into a date. One of those components is screening, and it can presumably be time consuming.
So assuming that you've seen a gent before and clicked, what kind of discount would you FREELY offer up? Or would you at all?
It recently happened to me, and I was surprised to hear the number (40% off "rack rate"). We had a great time, and I'd repeat at full price, so I'll definitely return. I truly believe that she enjoyed the time as well. It just got me wondering. Thanks.
Well, watcha find???
Being a businessman I would have said 'Make it 50% and you got a deal. My lawyer will draw up the paperwork.'
I knew a provider who had a frequent 'Lovers' card, five visits and the sixth one's FREE. This provider you saw is business savvy and is taking CARE of her customer's. There should be more like her !! The majority of providers are horrible to new clients and very unprofessional, i.e. cash & dash girls, don't do what they say they are going to, late and don't call, don't show up and don't call, lie about their appearance, falsify photos, etc...
Be flattered Junior, you saw a PROFESSIONAL, not
a money grubbing WANTA BE !!
I tend to be a pretty tough negotiator in a business setting, even though I use the "aw shucks" approach. With a provider, I take the approach that I pay what they ask or I don't see them. I truly appreciate what they are doing for me, and I wouldn't quibble over price with them any more than with my doctor. I want the best service that money can buy.
Yes, she's a pro. But I'm still trying to figure out if I should be flattered, or if she's just a good businesswoman disguised as a super hot sex machine.
My comment was SARCASTIC NEGOTIATION and my response to a hypothetical situation to me. I have never tried to negotiate or quibble over a provider's RATE, that's a dishonor to the BIZ.
Well, if you can't be flattered, then, be grateful and take the super hot sex machine up on her offer. Looks like a win-win to me.
Flattered, grateful, and signing up for more indeed. Her comeback price to me puts her at the very low end of the local scale, and she constantly gets 8's to 10's in both categories. Hey, maybe we should discuss inflated ratings...nah, been there, done that.
What is the dollar value of a multiple hour date? Yes, I've heard this story about "my time is what I'm charging for". But when one thinks about it, by the time the lady gets showered and dressed and make-up, drive to an outcall, etc. for a one hour date, what's the big deal about staying another hour or two longer at a more reasonable rate like $100 per hour after the first. It's not like the guys (especially the older ones like me) are going to be able to do the deed that many times.
I'm not trying to say that their time is not valuble, but at $100 an hour, most civilians would love to earn at that rate. I think that many of the ladies have forgotton the true value of money and the guys are only too anxious to please the ladies by not complaining about the rates.
This is not a slam on the ladies for asking the high rates, it's more of a slam on the guys who are dumb enough to be a walking ATM machine in hopes of pleasing a lady.
Fire away...
xoxo
CC
you seem to ignore that the majority of ladies DO offer discounts for multiple hours and longer dates.
I've a friend who understands how vastly different $100 an hour in this industry is from any other - he likened us once to professional athletes. Short shelf life, no benies, high risk. That $ better go a loooong wasy to make it the same value as the "same" $ a civillian earns during their career.
The discounts for long dates are often not nearly enough to make a huge difference. For example, a 300/hr lady may go 550/2 hrs and so on. Big deal.
I agree with the analogy of the professional athlete, and that's why I don't contribute to their income. The risk is not much greater between a one hour and a two hour. The screening is the same whether he stays an hour or more. In terms of shelf life, nobody would stop you from getting a civvie job after you decide to hang up your hat when the time comes, unlike an athlete who might be injured for life.
Believe me, I put high value on what you ladies do. And, I'm not sure I could do what you do if I was in your place. I only bring this up in discussion for discussion's sake.
Yes,
always a butt
thank goodness!
; )
So that $50 off on the example you gave means nothing to you? For some it does, and it makes the longer time do-able.
You contort the analogy by trying to apply the guildelines for one's entire career to each and every appointment.
No, there is not much more risk between the hour and two. The risk is spread over the ENTIRE time a lady sees ANY clients, from IPO to retirement. Each and every appointment (regardless of length) needs to compensate for this risk. This applies to the screening factor as well - the risk is always there. ((As an aside, there are many ladies who offer return friend discounts, specials, less tangible perks, grandfathering of rates, etc.))
In terms of shelf life, no - noone would stop a lady from getting a civvie job. And noone would stop an injured athlete from getting a civvie job, so your point really is pointless. Though, if we must pursue it - assuming this were FT... she is now in the same position as many homemakers. How does she prove she can do a job without the documented experience and referrals to support it?
If she leaves this profession through outting in a small community or due to LE issues, she WILL certainly see an impact in what types of jobs (and therefore salary) she can command.
On top of the above,
how long did she go without building the resume and senority which would contribute to a comfortable retirement?!? A lady MUST consider those things now, while she is in the TOP OF HER GAME.
Oh, and not only consider those factors... ensure that she is well compensated for them.
More butt's, anyone?
; )
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QUOTE:"The risk is not much greater between a one hour and a two hour. The screening is the same whether he stays an hour or more. In terms of shelf life, nobody would stop you from getting a civvie job after you decide to hang up your hat when the time comes, unlike an athlete who might be injured for life."
I don't know that it is a risk per hour thing really.
To continue the professional athlete comparison, athletes are paid on the their estimated value to the team, and their contracts tend to be for seasons not actual playing time..so in that the risk assumption for pay doesn't equate.
As for no one stopping any of the ladies from getting "civvie" jobs should they retire, that might be much easier said than done.
Difficult to find almost any job, let alone a well paying job with large gaps in one's work history. Difficult to prove your time maagement and interpersonal communication skills when you don't have a verifiable work history or business references. In the case of a large unaccounted for gap in one's work history can actually make it worse for obtaining employment then never having a job before.
As for the statement about athletes and injuries, those career ending injuries are usually just that career ending, but not necessarily completely debilitating...and a certain amount of fame or recognition coupled with verifiable work history doesn't hurt them much when getting a job after their athletic career.
Then the issue of multi-hour discounts based on the idea of opperating costs for any given appointment. I have always tended to assume it was like any profession where one has clients, the overhead and opperating costs are figured into the overall charges and not on a per customer basis. So, just as my accountant doesn't charge me for my specific share of her phone bill, or the receptionists time, or my share of the building rent based on how long I am in her office or how many sheets of paper are used, I wouldn't assume that these ladies would give deep discounts just because the screening, preparations and such are the same for a one or three hour appointment. those are opperating cost that shouldn't and couldn't be based on a per appointment basis.
Now can we discuss Miss Sola's butt? *grin*
Ok Miss Sola, ummm....yeah....if I am supposed to be able to discuss anything, form sentances, type in any sort of a reasonably coherent manner...I have to actually not be staring at a picture of your ass.
Come on took me like four hours to be able to type this much...I had to scroll the reply page such that couldn't actually see the image.
Though for the sake of discussion I will say that you have what can only be described as an absolutely magnificent ass.
*ok...back to my previously scheduled staring*
*grin*
that's exactly the response I wanted from you!
; )
Sola-Thank you for this reply, in my opinion it was the best of the entire thread. Incredible!
It seems reasonable to offer a discount for multi-hour, especially for outcall. There's no off the clock time between hours. Personally, I think $100/hr might be a stretch, but I live in a higher rate environment, where that would be 25%-ish of the typical first hour rate.
Most civilians would love to earn $100/hr, that is true, but that's because we get our calculators out and go...oooh 200k/yr. But providers are more like the professional consultant, who's fee covers costs of running a business and the liklihood that there aren't 2000 billable hours per year.
No you can't be Junior458 if you create better threads with that alias then the orginal Junior !!!
Be well everyone......and keep those discounts cumming ladies!!
But I still don't really have an answer. If you ever get to these parts, I'll introduce you to the "lady in question"
Providers generally offer a special rate if you frequent. Frequenting does not mean , once a year or twice a year unfortunatly. There isnt a 20% discount or 50 % discount. There isnt a clearance sign on our doors. You arent in a retail store.
If you offer a tip or gift card when you come.. she will always be happy and smiley to see you no matter what her discounted rate is.
When one lives in Buffalo NY.. Men expect to see girls for 100 an hour . that simply doesnt happen in escort land.(unless you use artvoice) we all know where nightly rag sheets gets a person..
So no, I surely wouldnt offer a 50 % discount.
As for a punchcard ? Im not fantastic sams .. LOL
I simply dont have that time during the day for free 1 hour calls. If I did free sex, id be on a dating site.
This was my first visit, and the offer was made (during sex actually, but repeated later) by her without me asking, which I'd never do.
It's a shame you don't offer the punchcard; I need a haircut. That would be a great excuse to see you ... LOL