hey uhmmm, i hate to be the one to point this out but, did you say you were a gay?
shit just ask her if you can do her hair and makeup, we tell our hairdressers EVERYTHING!
sorry, i saw the shot, i had to take it... even if it was under the hard-deck...
(wink) gotta love all the movie inferences lately... if someone could just work in "YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH" (too easy drill seargeant...) i'd fall out laughing in tears.
Honey, picking up a titty dancer 101...
1.buy her a drink and talk to her like a lady
2. offer her money for a dance that she doesn't have to do, while she drinks another drink with you, (as you explain that you know her time is money, but you just "love her company, and you don't want a DANCE like all the other guys")
this makes us wonder why you dont want to see us disrobe, and piques the female curiousity
3. Ask what she'd doing after work, say that you'll pay what she usually makes in an hour to go to "breakfast" after work... we're always starved after work, just like everyone else, just we work different hours... we sleep when you're showering to go to work...
4. She'll tell You yes or no, then if its a no, ask if she does private shows, you wouldn't think of touching, and, you have a minibar in your room... if she drinks...
5.you'll find out very soon what is going to be ok or not... otherwise, take her in a corner, buy a shitload of dances and a bottle of whatever she wants, remind her that you'd rather spend the money on her, than on the club's overpriced champagne... if you're at a club with any kind of class, they don't kickback to the girls on drink sales, you'll know from drink #1, if it's $6-$10, no kickback, if its $30 for a vodka-tonic, and yours was $6, kickback, the champagne sales will affect how much time she can spend with you because the owners calculate drink sales and get on your ass at the end of the nite if you dont make their sleazy asses enough money...
6. pull out a wad of $100 bills...
put them in her hand (HALFWAY, keep ahold of them...) say... "I was planning on spending this here tonite, but this club well, kinda suxs except for you... could i still possibly spend this on you and not champagne that theyre only gonna give you 10% on? here's my hotel number/cell number, whatever.... call me when you get off and I'll meet you in the lobby to pay your cab and escort you up, for now, go make your money, i know the deal... hopefully you'll call me later to come get these?"
she'll tell you yes or no
and at 2:30ish (if the club closes at 2) expect a call if she's not bullshitting
sometimes clubs take longer letting the girls out, waiting til the last customer is gone... then it may be 3 before she calls, but if its a possibility, she'll call.
thats the best newbie guy advice i can give, i mean unless you own a large brewery that supplies the alcohol for the club, or the overpriced leather outfit store in the galleria, hey, you're gonna shell out more for a local stripper than anyone else, thats why we spend so long flying under the radar, we make money in the club, then double it after work...
if you try this and it fails, please, don't come bitch me out, if you come train with me for a week, ill tutor you... but its gonna cost ya (hehehehehe j/k)
Nikki Diamond said in a recent post that she flew under the radar for almost 10 years. This makes me wonder, what would be the best way to approach a provider who is flying under the radar, but one knows or suspects she is the game?
I read Nikki´s answer on that subject but her answer, although being helpfull, works for the stripclub "scenario". I would like to see some other answers that could work out of the stripclub "scenario". For example, in my case I live overseas ( in South America) and visit the USA once a year, for about two to three weeks. I have spent some time with some very good looking providers who turned out to be even better persons that what I expected. But there are some others I would like to "meet" but, they are not openlly in the game. So, I guess that what I´m looking for is any suggestions from you guys (and gals) on how to aproach a provider who´s flying under the radar for a gay like myself, who can only approach any provider through internet.
One way is to contact experienced hobbyists via email. Explain your situtation and most will help you if they can... many of them know a lot of the girls who are and aren't players, and may be able to help you with contact info. or at least be able to point you in the right direction.
Another way is to contact the lady directly through her website. First, and hardest, is to determine if the lady herself is involved in her site. Some just "lease" the girls name... she has nothing to do with the day to day running of the site. Other times, she might own the site, but her boyfriend or husband handles the email, pretending to be her. It's a crapshoot, but it's sometime the only way to go.
Remember when contacting a pornstar through her site that she doesn't know who you are... you could be a nut case or law enforcement, so naturally she's going to be cautious. Don't ask her on your first email if she escorts... try to establish a rapport over several emails. If a pornstar will engage in a multi-email dialogue, it's one indiciation that it's really her and that she may be open to a meeting.
Tell her you're a big fan, that you're from overseas and will be visiting the U.S. for a few weeks, and you'd love to take her to dinner. Let her know that you realize that her time is valuable, and offer to compensate her for her time.
This method has worked for me and several others that I know... It's not surefire, but even a 10% success rate is better than nothing.
Also, I've heard from people who've contacted me from overseas that it may be an advantage not to be from the U.S.... You're less likely to spill her "secret" if you're not from here.
Happy Hunting!
-- Modified on 8/14/2003 2:08:18 PM
"Tell her you're a big fan" -- FE51
to that i would add a slight emphasis ... PROVE to her you're a big fan! 
how you do that is best done on a case-by-case basis. this helps establish *some* credibility that makes them comfortable at least. it's never a sutbstitue for a complete screening (any smart provider knows that) but at least it gets you past that dreaded first-encounter email buffer DELETE! 
i've had providers tell me such ridiculously funny tales of dry introductory emails from strange guys with no tact whatsoever that read something like this:
"Hi. I found your email from so-n-such. Do you give discounts to TER members? If not then I must have BBBJTC with Anal at the standard rate. Bye"
i kid you not! ... also the insistent query "is Anal included? I must have Anal, etc" seems very prevalent (i think all us pervs know why!
LOL
hey uhmmm, i hate to be the one to point this out but, did you say you were a gay?
shit just ask her if you can do her hair and makeup, we tell our hairdressers EVERYTHING!
sorry, i saw the shot, i had to take it... even if it was under the hard-deck...
(wink) gotta love all the movie inferences lately... if someone could just work in "YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH" (too easy drill seargeant...) i'd fall out laughing in tears.
Honey, picking up a titty dancer 101...
1.buy her a drink and talk to her like a lady
2. offer her money for a dance that she doesn't have to do, while she drinks another drink with you, (as you explain that you know her time is money, but you just "love her company, and you don't want a DANCE like all the other guys")
this makes us wonder why you dont want to see us disrobe, and piques the female curiousity
3. Ask what she'd doing after work, say that you'll pay what she usually makes in an hour to go to "breakfast" after work... we're always starved after work, just like everyone else, just we work different hours... we sleep when you're showering to go to work...
4. She'll tell You yes or no, then if its a no, ask if she does private shows, you wouldn't think of touching, and, you have a minibar in your room... if she drinks...
5.you'll find out very soon what is going to be ok or not... otherwise, take her in a corner, buy a shitload of dances and a bottle of whatever she wants, remind her that you'd rather spend the money on her, than on the club's overpriced champagne... if you're at a club with any kind of class, they don't kickback to the girls on drink sales, you'll know from drink #1, if it's $6-$10, no kickback, if its $30 for a vodka-tonic, and yours was $6, kickback, the champagne sales will affect how much time she can spend with you because the owners calculate drink sales and get on your ass at the end of the nite if you dont make their sleazy asses enough money...
6. pull out a wad of $100 bills...
put them in her hand (HALFWAY, keep ahold of them...) say... "I was planning on spending this here tonite, but this club well, kinda suxs except for you... could i still possibly spend this on you and not champagne that theyre only gonna give you 10% on? here's my hotel number/cell number, whatever.... call me when you get off and I'll meet you in the lobby to pay your cab and escort you up, for now, go make your money, i know the deal... hopefully you'll call me later to come get these?"
she'll tell you yes or no
and at 2:30ish (if the club closes at 2) expect a call if she's not bullshitting
sometimes clubs take longer letting the girls out, waiting til the last customer is gone... then it may be 3 before she calls, but if its a possibility, she'll call.
thats the best newbie guy advice i can give, i mean unless you own a large brewery that supplies the alcohol for the club, or the overpriced leather outfit store in the galleria, hey, you're gonna shell out more for a local stripper than anyone else, thats why we spend so long flying under the radar, we make money in the club, then double it after work...
if you try this and it fails, please, don't come bitch me out, if you come train with me for a week, ill tutor you... but its gonna cost ya (hehehehehe j/k)