Forgot the quotes....
These have been collected from these boards... I thank those who have shared their mis-adventures.
Bait & Switch... ads with pictures not her own or seriously out of date or sends another lesser provider
Runner or 'cash & dash' Grabs the cash & bolts for the door.
Runner or 'take off' After recieving the cash, announces she left the condoms in the car, goes out to get them & runs.
Runner After recieving cash, does not have condoms, you drive her to the store, she runs...
Runner After recieving cash, does not have condoms, you drive her to the store, you wait outside, she tells the clerk a story (coersion, pressure etc) is let out another door... she runs... with your donation. The cops show up!
She promises/implies services which are withdrawn from menu after payment. (This refers mainly to large scale changes)
Another variation is rather than deliver services, she does a dance or shows lingerie... when you try to move to the main course, she claims she doesn't do that. "What kind of a girl do you think I am?"
The switchero First review BBBJ, later customers CBJ.
Reviewed: Link to TER or other reviews. Take the time to read the reviews. Existance of reviews does not mean they are good reviews! We've seen ads with links to horrible reviews! I guess they were counting on guys not checking.
Up sell: She collects payment & suddenly services are extra cost.
The Banker: Asks for cash advances or loans, sometimes to be worked off or repaid in cash... then refuses your calls or disappears. (Note: Some experienced hobbiests choose to take these chances & advise never loan money you can't afford to lose or just gift outright.)
The Deposit Ripoff:
There are exceptions where it might make sense to pay a deposit... like travel expenses or a large time block reserved (over night, weekend, an extended night of dinner & dancing) where she is turning away others to accomidate you. But in general, deposits leave you open to be ripped off. You pay the deposit & she suddenly becomes hard to reach or ignores you all together. There's no way to force compliance. Remember, you can't legally contract for an illegal act.
Thief: When you are not looking, items or cash disappear.
Scout: After appointment your residence is burlarized. Sometimes doors or windows become unlocked.
Blackmail The provider finds out too much personal information about you, and threatens to post or give out your information to who ever (job, media, family) in exchange for hush money. Not a good idea to pay extortion. Blackmail / extortion are felonies. It is suggested you get legal help before going to the authorities.
Gorilla: She seems legit, you are getting "comfortable" and all of a sudden some big ape is pounding on the door or busting down the door and you just want to get out of there with your life.
Mugging: The girl or her thug block your exit and you aren't allowed to leave unless you give them all the money you have in your possession.
Or the ones where she is stalling for time, you may be undressed but she still has her clothes on, she is doing a little dance, strip tease, etc, mostly dressed. Outside one of her friends is breaking in your car and stealing anything and everything they can find of value. The session doesn't actually happen, she's stalled long enough that you pretty much know you've been screwed, you go back outside to find your car's been broken into and she acts like she knows nothing about it. (I read a review on another site where this is standard MO at this girl's incall).
I also read a review where the girl took the money and then went to the bathroom and locked the door, and
didn't come out - the guy waited 4 hrs and she did not come out. (said she had a computer and phone in bathroom with her, btw).
She gets on the phone with her "agency" & asks specific questions about sex acts & money. You invite her to leave & there are no hooker refunds. (Probably done to freak out a newbie Re: Possible LE sting)
Scammers are very slick... they have the move all planned & can even be out the door before you can protest. There are some who should be in the Olympics... track team! Many of the scams work best (against us) on out-calls to your home or hotel room. Place the donation well into the bedroom, not near the door!
I should caution that it's generally illegal to physically lock someone in or physically restrain them... think kidnapping or unlawful restraint charges... still we don't have to make ourselves look like an easy mark! This is supposed to be FUN! Again, well reviewed providers are the best bet for newbies & the risk adverse.
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very informative information.
So many good tips for newbies in this post... It's horrible how many girls screw around & how many newbies don't understand the basics. I love how helpful everybody is on the newbie board, so amazing! Kudos to you for posting this!!!
In the middle of one now:
I've done this for over a year now and only see the higher end ladies in my geography (top 20 reviewed on TER in this area). Screening is no problem because I'm white listed by one of the top ladies here. I'm semi regular seeing her, maybe 8-10 visits over the past 18 months.
But still being new I went to schedule with another well reviewed lady out of state. She has 30+ solid reviews here. But me being new and out of state she wanted a deposit. No prob. Appointment day comes, she cancels on me last minute. We rebooked coinciding with my next visit. She cancelled the day before. Rebooked again a couple weeks out, she went off grid the day before when I wrote to confirm. Valid reasons first two times. No response the 3rd.
Obviously, I'm not getting the $500 deposit back. My regular lady friend finds this weird. We even chatted about the email exchanges and details last month.
I'm using an alias because we are booked for a spring meet and greet (me, my regular friend and my cancellation friend though my cancellation friend does not know this). I won't confront her. Once I place money in the play account, it's like casino money-gone in my view. But I'm curious to see how this plays out as if we end up introducing ourselves.
But point of this long post- deposit issues can be problems even on the high end of the scale.
My cancellation friend is not known to scam. I feel she's probably simply disorganized. But either way, you can lose your deposit. Be aware
Thanks for posting:
Unless there's a special reason requiring a deposit... best to rely on face to face transactions. There are still many cautions but at least theDeposit Problem would not be one of them.
I've done this for over a year now and only see the higher end ladies in my geography (top 20 reviewed on TER in this area). Screening is no problem because I'm white listed by one of the top ladies here. I'm semi regular seeing her, maybe 8-10 visits over the past 18 months.
But still being new I went to schedule with another well reviewed lady out of state. She has 30+ solid reviews here. But me being new and out of state she wanted a deposit. No prob. Appointment day comes, she cancels on me last minute. We rebooked coinciding with my next visit. She cancelled the day before. Rebooked again a couple weeks out, she went off grid the day before when I wrote to confirm. Valid reasons first two times. No response the 3rd.
Obviously, I'm not getting the $500 deposit back. My regular lady friend finds this weird. We even chatted about the email exchanges and details last month.
I'm using an alias because we are booked for a spring meet and greet (me, my regular friend and my cancellation friend though my cancellation friend does not know this). I won't confront her. Once I place money in the play account, it's like casino money-gone in my view. But I'm curious to see how this plays out as if we end up introducing ourselves.
But point of this long post- deposit issues can be problems even on the high end of the scale.
My cancellation friend is not known to scam. I feel she's probably simply disorganized. But either way, you can lose your deposit. Be aware.
thanks for the info...actually trying to set up first session tonight, will definitely add a review of the girl
This should be a permanent posting in my opinion. I'm a newbie but prefer the mature ladies on TER, date check etc. Although I've noticed some ladies do post on bp but for most part bp appears shaky ground to me.
All ad venus have good providers & scammers. I find it more efficient use of time to start with TER but you can start with an ad & use TER & other research (image searches) to decide if you are interested in her. I would never make the call based solely on an ad.
We don't seem to be able to sticky this post... I've been encouraged to bring it back periodically.
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She gives you a sob story of how she doesn't have the money for incall... so you meet her there, giver her the money, and while she is supposed to be securing accommodations, she dashes out the back with your money.