under certain very specific circumstances.
The first two times it was "unapproved" for being a "mini-review" though I'm not sure specifically why.
I need to state what this girl did and the prices she quoted to ask my questions on it. She was telling me things that did not jive with my experience, such as exorbitant prices for minimal things.
My questions simply were whether she was just different or actually ripping me off, but I think someone needs to know what she did to answer those.
I don't know how to phrase it so that it gets past the "mini-review" filter; I did not leave any identifying info last time.
Please be as specific as possible; many of these general answers are not helpful and very obvious.
you are whining.....
what defines an "exorbitant price" to you personally. Let's start there perhaps. There may lie the answer in and of itself. At least for me.
xx kisses
PS. There is no explanation for the way women 'are' or 'behave' here. We are all independent and run our own businesses unless you go with an agency. Either you have just picked a bad appleseed or are bitching about something that has been blown out of proportion because of what you think is an "exorbitant price" and it didn't meet "your" expectations. And that my friend is two different stories that occur every day in this world.
Are you attempting to do a mini-review?
Have you carefully read the rules for mini-reviews first?
Why not write a standard review?
I'm not trying to do a mini-review, I never was, that's why I made the third post the way I did.
All I did was state what happened because I wanted to know if it was really a scam or if I was just in over my head and some girls just charge exorbitant prices and guys actually pay for it. I'm sure some do, but after considering all details it seems like this girl makes her money more ripping guys off than actually earning it.
It's just one of those borderline issues because I've never run into it before, only read similar stories, but the way she was talking I felt like I just wasn't high-ball enough to be in her game, but that might have been part of her scam.
All I really wanted to know was in people's experience what they though, but when I left more details it got flagged as a mini-review.
First off, well reviewed providers do not offer an a la cart service. Generally you want to see an all inclusive fee for your time together. You need to read her profile, review details, and image searches to really know what to expect.
Discussing sexual details & fees is generally frown upon as that is the tactics that Police will use to bust you.
You are quite vague here but I'll guess she told you one price... you clearly expected it to be all inclusive & then she says that's just to get her there and everything else is extra. This is a scam. It's refered to as an upsell. Well reviewed providers do not operate this way.
Start your search her on TER, recent reviews for your area. You WILL need VIP to do proper research. Newbies (and the risk adverse) should only see well reviewed providers.
Well reviewed providers is providers with 6-10 or more reviews, at least some by reviewers with 6-10 reviews themselves. The mere existamce of reviews does not mean they are GOOD. We've seen ads with actual links to reviews that say STAY AWAY! (The gal assumes guys are too lazy to actually READ the reviews... and a lot of guys are!) We are all here because we fell for scams ourselves...
OK thank you, this is the clearest opinion I've heard on this yet, and the kind of thing I'm looking for (not all the condescending obvious advice that I usually try to do).
I never say that I want anything sexual over the text or phone, that's why I get nervous when they insist on a phone call (I also don't know if I'm being recorded). After she had the money she made me specifically state what I wanted then said I should have asked for that beforehand... well, I assume these girls understand the lingo and I don't have to explain it or draw them a picture, but I feel like this was part of the scam and other girls were discreet and understood and we had a good time.
In fact I think a majority of the girls I've been with didn't have reviews and most of them overall were good experiences, while some that had a lot of great reviews were terrible (though only one I felt sort of ripped me off and I got at least something for it).
I already search phone numbers, TER reviews, image searches, whatever I can find; it's hard, and sometimes I just have to pick one and sometimes I get unlucky, but I've never had something this bad. It was like meeting someone on a Friday night, things start of great, then you go outside to chat and she kicks you in the balls, steals your wallet, kicks you in the head, mocks the photos in your wallet, then runs away laughing throwing your shit all over but keeping the money. It was injury then insult and me feeling humiliated, like I should have known better, but not knowing how I could have protected myself... I honestly had had some bad experiences with well-reviewed ladies so I wanted to try what seemed like a fresh girl, and while she is probably the best-looking I've seen, she was also the most cruel, and I'm almost broken over the hobby because of it
Instead of telling us about the girl and the specifics of your situation, ask about the issues that concern you in a more general way, e.g. "Is it normal for a girl to charge extra for this? Would you expect this if she said that?" All the standard advice about seeing well reviewed girls still applies.
Its hard to answer your question since you cannot post the details. If you checked her website and it listed the services individually then it isn't an upsell. I'd never see a lady that does that for services. If its just the amount from TER it may not included all of her services. Though they should list it, often they don't. Sometimes you'll see something like 200 and think its full service then check her website and discover its only for a massage and finish. Its deceptive, but it is your responsibility to check her website for that information.
At that point, you either pay more, take the lower level service or walk. If you are already underway, just take the lower level service and move on, finish up and get out without a hassle.
If it isn't clearly spelled out and she says, bbbj is an extra 50 or some nonsense like that it is an upsell, you should out her in your review. Guys need that information. No need to be a dick about, just write it up clearly, the review is your opinion. It isn't hard to spell out politely. Experienced guys will understand what you really mean.
Also just because reviews say she does bbbj, doesn't mean she does. Guys lie about the services they received and experiences they had, not to mention their looks, dick size and what they paid. Best to look for reviewer with many reviews, you'll usually get much more reliable information.
You could just write the review and once it posts, link to it and then ask your questions or PM someone about it.
Better luck next time, no need to be hung up about one bad visit, some are better then others.
I need to state what this girl did and the prices she quoted to ask my questions on it. She was telling me things that did not jive with my experience, such as exorbitant prices for minimal things.
My questions simply were whether she was just different or actually ripping me off, but I think someone needs to know what she did to answer those.
I don't know how to phrase it so that it gets past the "mini-review" filter; I did not leave any identifying info last time.
Please be as specific as possible; many of these general answers are not helpful and very obvious.
I have only read a few of your posts so I don't have the whole picture but it sounds like you got your date in the room and she wanted more money than you thought you needed to pay. So, which is it? Did you mis-read her website/ad/'donation's page? Or did she upsell you? It sounds to me like she was upselling you, but since you're making such a big deal out of it, I'm going to make a few assumptions. You picked the low end of the price spectrum. You were probably crude in your tactics to decipher what you needed to pay to get what you wanted. She got there, realized she shouldn't have taken the appointment in the first place (ie either you looked and/or acted like shit) then just said to herself "fuck this..if he wants me to do that, he's going to have to cough up more"...
Post on this thread how much money you're talking about and for how long and we'll have a good idea of what your issue is, without naming names. Don't lie and you might get a straight answer to 'what happened'
be posted for touring providers, and must be followed up with a full review. The reason they are allowed for touring providers is to allow local guys know if she is good or bad while she is still in their city. I was told you cannot do a mini-review on a local provider.
A full review must be done using the review form, which is found on the review page with the button labeled 'Submit a Review'.
Hope this helps.
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It wasn't a mini-review, it was a description of what happened and a question that I had about it.
TER kept bouncing it as a mini-review, it was not intended that way, I simply posted this to try to get the message through.
Does mentioning specific numbers and things said and actions constitute a mini-review? Well then, where's the lines exactly, because their terms aren't specific enough for me to tell with the two posts I tried to make.
under certain very specific circumstances.
is you took the bait for a low ball ad. When you arrived, you found out it was not for the service you wanted or for a much lesser time. It's not unusual to see ads with a low price & realize it's not for the option you wanted.
I had one of those early on, who allowed everything (I was lucky) but didn't explain the time limit. I did opt to extend and was lucky she had the time available. I was very green at that point & learned from it. (I'd gladly see her again, but would reserve a longer time from the start.)
BTW, low costs & very good pictures is LIKELY a scam, a short visit or even a LE sting.
You have got to learn to research better.
Thank you for the constructive and informative replies, but I think some are not getting it or expect perfection from everyone just because they've had good experiences.
I was simply trying to figure out if this girl was a scam or I was out of my league; based on what you guys have said, I think she's a scam.
I have used TER and gotten mixed results, same with not using TER (probably a better experience outside of TER). I simply tried her because she's been posting for several weeks and looked new and maybe I've been on a lucky streak (not that I want to jinx it). The constructive information and criticism is good, but I'm seeing too much negativity and condescension here so I'm not going to post on this thread anymore. The last thing I need is negativity and being told it's all my fault and I'm not doing it right because I'm not doing the obvious things, but well I've done the obvious things previously (and am more careful than most based on reviews I've read) and still had some bad experiences, but I got a bad apple here that was rotten to the core, so I needed help with it.
If there's any other sites I should check (and I've tried to be thorough but there's so many crap sites) or things I can do to better spot a bad provider and a good one, please post them here not just for me but for the community, and I will check it but I'm not going to reply to this thread anymore.