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true name of the gentleman behind it.

Hugs and Kisses,
Kelly

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Now that I have a few incall meetings under my belt, I'm learning all about the "two-call" system, which seems pretty standard: You get an address maybe a day or so before the meeting, and then don't get an apartment or room number until you're physically standing in front of the incall location.  

In every other business dealing I do, I always receive the complete location information at the time the meeting is confirmed... whether it's a doctor, lawyer, consulting, or any other kind of interaction. It  seems that it would be easier for a provider confirmation to say: "I'm at 123 Main Street. When you get to the address, take the elevator to the 3rd floor and I'm in room 345." Why is this not the standard?

How does this awkward system enhance safety for the provider? For example, I had a meeting with a provider in December, so I learned her apartment number. I just scheduled another meeting with her last week. I've known her apartment number for more than a month, but the meeting didn't go any differently than the last time I saw her. In fact, it was easier, because I didn't have to worry about the horrible cell phone reception in the parking structure and the possibility that I wouldn't receive the text with her apartment number.

If I would think that if I were LE, it wouldn't matter if I discovered the room number 5 minutes or 5 days before the arrest, so it's not clear to me how this system benefits providers.

On the flip side, if there is some elusive reason why a 2-call system is better, should I use it too? I had a couple of provider meetings scheduled over a multi-day trip to Las Vegas recently. As soon as I checked into my hotel, I emailed the providers I had scheduled and told them my room number and hotel. Did this compromise my safety in any way? Was it dumb for me to email a provider my room number on Monday, when my scheduled meeting with her wasn't until Friday

A bit of history might shed some light on the practice.

Back in the days before the internet or the cell phone, many escort arrangements were made by phone calls to escort ads in various "entertainment" magazines which all major cities had.  In NYC it was the Village Voice, in Boston is was The Phoenix.

When you got a gal on the line, she would direct you to a phone booth at a certain location to call her back.  At that phone booth, she either was able to view you directly from her window (If the phone booth was outside.) or she would have a code written on the wall next to the phone booth that she would ask you to repeat.  (Mission Impossible had nothing on them.)

This way she could verify you and at least make sure that you were there and not a time waster.

Now with cell phones, these little security measures no longer hold water.

So, why the 2-call system, indeed?

I suppose it does cut down a bit on her location getting leaked out to some time wasters, but that's about it.

CuriousNewbie665 reads

I should add that I suffered no ill effects from providers knowing my room number several days before the actual meeting.

Posted By: CuriousNewbie
Now that I have a few incall meetings under my belt, I'm learning all about the "two-call" system, which seems pretty standard: You get an address maybe a day or so before the meeting, and then don't get an apartment or room number until you're physically standing in front of the incall location.  
   
 In every other business dealing I do, I always receive the complete location information at the time the meeting is confirmed... whether it's a doctor, lawyer, consulting, or any other kind of interaction. It  seems that it would be easier for a provider confirmation to say: "I'm at 123 Main Street. When you get to the address, take the elevator to the 3rd floor and I'm in room 345." Why is this not the standard?  
   
 How does this awkward system enhance safety for the provider? For example, I had a meeting with a provider in December, so I learned her apartment number. I just scheduled another meeting with her last week. I've known her apartment number for more than a month, but the meeting didn't go any differently than the last time I saw her. In fact, it was easier, because I didn't have to worry about the horrible cell phone reception in the parking structure and the possibility that I wouldn't receive the text with her apartment number.  
   
 If I would think that if I were LE, it wouldn't matter if I discovered the room number 5 minutes or 5 days before the arrest, so it's not clear to me how this system benefits providers.  
   
 On the flip side, if there is some elusive reason why a 2-call system is better, should I use it too? I had a couple of provider meetings scheduled over a multi-day trip to Las Vegas recently. As soon as I checked into my hotel, I emailed the providers I had scheduled and told them my room number and hotel. Did this compromise my safety in any way? Was it dumb for me to email a provider my room number on Monday, when my scheduled meeting with her wasn't until Friday?  
 

Client #1 is super excited for his date!  He decides to show up 1/2 hour early!

Client #2 is an creepy asshat who decides to no-show, freaking out the lady who now has to wonder why he bothered to get her location information and if she has to move her in-call.

Client #3 has left the confirmation email in his account with the ladies incall address.  Ms. Client finds it has her PI stake out the location in preparations for the divorce.

Same with client #4, but crazy pissed off wife decides to come by to cat fight with the provider, or even better, to contact the police.

Client #5 has his brother drive him to the location and thinks it's ok for his brother to wait in the parking lot until the session is over.  The appointment is cancelled when the provider looks out her window at the 2nd call location and notices an "extra" body.  (No really, that actually happened.)

Shall I go on

CuriousNewbie447 reads

Thank you Sola!

This really helps me understand why providers do this.  

Since none of these issues are a problem the other way around, it also helps me feel comfortable giving well reviewed providers my hotel room number a few days in advance. Hell... one response from a provider above said sometimes clients show up unannounced. I'd be thrilled if a provider wanted to see me so badly that she showed up unannounced at my hotel room between meetings and wanted to offer a freebie :-).

It is clear, however, that these cautions really only help before the meeting or if the provider has a temporary incall location like a hotel. For example, I now have text messages on my phone with the apartment numbers of several providers. I have scheduled second meetings with some of them, and I found it convenient to know exactly where I was going so I could plan exactly how long to allot for traffic and parking.  

But having this info on my phone opens the provider up to problems #3 and #4 that you mention. Also, problems #1 and #2 can still be issues with repeat clients (i.e. a repeat client can now show up 1/2 hour early). But there are fewer repeat clients than first-time clients, so I see how the two-call system at least mitigates the risk.

To the best of my knowledge, in all my visits so far, the provider had no way of seeing my car before I got the final room number. So your client #5 scenario wouldn't have been detected. I have to admit though, Client #5 is just creepy.

......I give the general area of my incall, and tell gentlemen to call me after they have parked.  I then give them my exact address/room number.  I never put my address or room number in an e-mail.  I do not text.

      I will know if a gentleman is early from his first, and only call.  Thankfully, I cannot remember the last time I had a no show, but even then, I doubt a gentleman would be a no show within a few minutes of giving him my address/hotel.

      One must do what they are comfortable with, and this system works for me.

Hugs and Kisses,
Kelly

Many ladies will not come out to your hotel until they can verify that you are actually THERE.  Yes, time wasters and game players have sent many ladies on wild goose chases.    

The two-call system is much less useful for the gents to employ, and could keep you from getting dates.

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How can you verify that I'm actually at my hotel before knocking on my door? I haven't given you my real name, so you can't call the hotel and ask for my room. You can't call the front desk and ask to speak to the gentleman in room ###. The best you can do is use the house phone to call before coming up, but by then you're already at the hotel, so what's the point?

One gal gave me turn by turn directions...  I ended up in the same place, headed the opposite direction...  she was checking that I wasn't being followed by unmarked cars.

Another, repeat, I found the location & withdrew to the corner coffee shop to wait (discreet).  Being easrly is necessary because of travel delays.  I made the call as I was returning from the coffee shop & she said "I don't see you."  By then I was in the lot & seconds away.  

It gives the gal a bit of control / protection.  It works fine.

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