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I never went down this road... a lady I was fond of
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hinted a few times at needing money.  Neer came out & asked for a loan.  But I'd book with her, so she got some cash income...  so I never expected it back.  
I've given gifts to various ladies, knowing I'd never get repaid.

Twice in the last week and a half I've had two providers that I've visited multiple times ask me to borrow money with promises to pay back or pre-paid dates. I've not done this, but it seems fishy to me. They are ones I've seen numerous times including multiple hour dates. I have a good p4p relationship with both, I just don't want to mess a good thing up by saying no all the time if it's common. Any advice would be appreciated.

Your first review being in August. With your lack of experience here I'd say NO. Unless you can afford to lose the money. Never lend money you can't afford to lose and this scenario can get complicated.

I'm not saying never but I'm not sure you understand everything about the little world here.

Are the ladies well reviewed with a history here? I quickly checked your review history and you've been ripped once and also had a not so great experience with another lady. Just think it through first.

Steph xoxo

I haven't said yes, and I'm pretty new. I also have the problem that there aren't many reviewed providers in my city. Not a lot of choices.  That's where I keep running into problems. I found two local that I like, but both are asking to borrow money. I'm just not comfortable with that, for some of the reasons you listed and some others. I just wasn't sure if this was a common practice/issue

Especially as a newbie. Sounds "fishy" you've got that right! I've been at this awhile and have been asked numerous times for a loan.  I have a simple answer, NO.  As has mentioned only lend them money if you can afford to not be repaid.  
 

Posted By: JV73
Twice in the last week and a half I've had two providers that I've visited multiple times ask me to borrow money with promises to pay back or pre-paid dates. I've not done this, but it seems fishy to me. They are ones I've seen numerous times including multiple hour dates. I have a good p4p relationship with both, I just don't want to mess a good thing up by saying no all the time if it's common. Any advice would be appreciated.

...but not unheard of. Your instincts are correct. Just say no. I've run into this with strippers but not with providers. The mess this could turn into is definitely something to be avoided.

You won't lend money and they won't turn tricks behind the tellers' cages.

Then run.

8o)

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Agree with the majority that its a very bad idea.

Does seem odd that you got the request multiple times recently - I've only heard this a few times in 15 years of on-and-off 'hobbying'.  Do you think you're putting out some kind of 'I like to help girls vibe'?  Just asking, not accusing.

Would only even consider this if I had a really long, familiar relationship with a provider, and even then would be very reluctant.

I don't know if I'm sending that vibe or not, I could be. I know there has been a lot of stings and arrests by LE lately so maybe it's scaring clients away. I do find it really weird.

I'm a tad confused here...You've been whitelisted by two well reviewed ladies who seem to be reputable, yet your reviews aren't of them, they are of a different tier. What gives? And all of your reviews are of ladies in a large city, yet you say it's slim pickings where you are.

If you don't mind, please enlighten me. I'd say stay with the type of ladies you've been whitelisted by. I could be wrong, but I'm guessing they are asking to borrow money.

Steph

Some of the ladies I've visited have requested I not do a review, even though they would be highly positive. I respect their wishes.  I also usually wait about a week after seeing the provider to write the review.  

The reviews only let you choose the closest large city. I live a ways from that location. I just have no choice but to choose it. TER won't let me choose the actual town I live in. It sucks.  

No, the ladies that white listed me are not the ones asking to borrow money.

If you want to see her again.  If you "loan" her money or give her an advance...  she'll spend the money & probably not save up to pay you back.  (I know other more experiemced hobbiests have posted on loaning...  and their results look more like 50/50)  Since she has spent the money & isn't planning to pay you back, she'll become hard to reach & not book appointments with you since she could book PAID appointments in the same time.  So if you want to keep on F*cking her, don't loan.  
Instead, just skip the loan comments entirely & ask to book an appointment.  She makes some money for what ever her need is & you get what you paid for.

In the P4P world, advances are risky business...  rarely required.

I've never been asked for a loan, but I'll certainly think about this if I ever am.
My instinct would be to say no anyway, but at times I can be a softy, so who knows...

I am in the DC area. A few years ago a very well reviewed lady in this area who was active on the DC board began asking for monthly payments, promising to be available when guys wanted to see her in exchange for the regular cash flow. A friend of mine (seriously, it was not me) bought into her arrangement.  Over time, she began "having problems" and became "unavailable" when he contacted her. He paid about three months without seeing her before he finally wised up.

He got frustrated.  Then angry. Then he took to the TER boards trashing her. People took sides. It got ugly. The moderator stepped in and it eventually blew over. Except to say he never received any services for his payments. As I recall, he was paying $400 monthly for "at least two one hour visits" per month. (For those wondering, she retired and is long gone.)

So even when someone is well intentioned, which I assume she was in the beginning, bad things can happen over time. So I would not "prepay" for companionship. Rather, if asked and I knew her I would just give her the money expecting nothing in return. Then if things work out down the line, great. But just know that it is likely to get off course because it really is outside the norms of the arrangement we have, as that of providrrs and clients.

I would look at it like loaning money to a friend. You can do it, but it could complicate, or even end, your friendship.

Posted By: JV73
Twice in the last week and a half I've had two providers that I've visited multiple times ask me to borrow money with promises to pay back or pre-paid dates. I've not done this, but it seems fishy to me. They are ones I've seen numerous times including multiple hour dates. I have a good p4p relationship with both, I just don't want to mess a good thing up by saying no all the time if it's common. Any advice would be appreciated.

about seeing your favorite lady for a multi-hour experience rather than just lending her the money?  At least you get a longer good time that way.

hinted a few times at needing money.  Neer came out & asked for a loan.  But I'd book with her, so she got some cash income...  so I never expected it back.  
I've given gifts to various ladies, knowing I'd never get repaid.

I really appreciate it. I know most of the users in here live in larger metropolitan areas with an abundance of providers, Again, I'm not so lucky. I also have an erratic schedule so I can't always plan things out like I'd like. Many times I have to wait until same day to try to book and yes, I can import providers and have, but I've had no luck on same day doing that. So yes, sometimes I have to use less than top tier providers. If you want more details, PM me. I don't want to give out too much in here.

make sure you tell them it is entirely inappropriate for them to ask.

ask them for a session and promise to pay them later, and see what their answer is!!!

Well it can't hurt to ask, or hint! My relationships now span many years and we all have those days where we're strapped for funds and desperately need relaxation. I come from a stand point of dealing with abundance, not greed or ego. So as low as my price points might be to some, I always seem to attract abundance. Whether it be gracious friends or generous. I'll take both because at the end of the day I honestly enjoy what I do and can't have that being stingy. It's worked for me and I've learned a lot about myself and others doing this. To many more years meeting incredible people and having fabulous times!

I would not recommend a newbie approaching me in this manner. If you have only read my reviews you really have only scratched the surface of what it is that I do. It is sad I must qualify some of my posts, it's only to see that I don't get replies from those who might mistake my kind nature sight unseen.

Posted By: handytohave60
ask them for a session and promise to pay them later, and see what their answer is!!!

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I help my girl out when I can. I know the money goes towards her kids and rent. How do I know? I take her to the store to buy food for her kids.

Posted By: ROGM
I help my girl out when I can. I know the money goes towards her kids and rent. How do I know? I take her to the store to buy food for her kids.
This is the exception that proves the rule...  and at least you know the food is bought & not going up someone's nose.  I WOULD drive a friend to the store & buy her groceries.
   
I've been "Secret Santa" to civies with no thought of getting anything in return.  In each case it was someone who got a raw deal & I was dishing out a little vigilantee justice on life's unfairness.  It was money I'd have spent on "wine, women & song".  No biggie.

I'd be a lot more impressed if you didn't constantly post about paying "your girl" significantly less than her published rate. Maybe if you paid her full rate she wouldn't need you to take her grocery shopping.

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