His point and question is valid albeit beaten to death on this and probably every other local board. Maybe he's new to this treatment and hasn't seen it discussed, I don't know. I don't blame him nor did I respond to him. I have sympathy for him because I think racism has no place in society and I truly believe that in most cases it is due to ignorance. I do believe that some people have had bad experiences which form their opinions and that is regrettable to say the least. One incident does not make an entire group of people guilty.
I myself am NOT opposed to seeing ladies of any ethnic background. I make my choices based on many factors but skin color or ethnicity are not among them. Do I get frustrated with this "hobby shit" as you called it? Sure, we all do at some point. However, I have been doing this since 1998 on the Internet and over 25 years now total. I have seen a lot, been involved in some of it and have learned to stay out of most of it. I am sure of myself, who I am and what I like. I became even more comfortable when I struck the right balance between my real life and this hobby. When things start to get to me, I know it's time to take a break and I have done so many times. I still hobby because of the enjoyment I get from it and when the time comes for me to move on, I will be very comfortable with that decision as well. Now let me ask you a question.....why do you post the way you do? Something we all learned in our childhood applies here....it's not what you say, it's how you say it. If you were to "tone down" your obvious anger and find better and more accurate ways to comment on topics, you would probably get more responses in kind. Subtle changes make a difference like with capitalization when writing for example. The meaning of the sentence "I helped my Uncle Jack off his horse" changes when you lose the capital letters...."I helped my uncle jack off his horse". See, it's not WHAT you say, it's HOW you say it.-- Modified on 3/1/2016 11:50:09 PM
Would a new check box indicating whether a provider will or wont entertain African American (AA) clients be helpful? Allowing providers who would rather not see AA men to clearly declare, as well as (AA) men looking for providers to know in advance and not waste time and effort...? Would like some feedback from seasoned providers please..
Personally, I'd love to have a check-box that states I only meet clients who are thorough and diligent in researching their play-partners.
Nothing more frustrating than trying to get screening info from someone who didn't read my website.
My worst experiences have been with men over 50.
Protection protects both of us. No means No. You are an adult, act like one.
I have seen no racial factors in play on my end.
tl;dr
Race is a social construct.
Uh, race is a social construct, and just because someone has different colour skin....
It doesn't mean they are intrinsically bad in some way, be it in culture, attitude, physiology, or comportment.
So if someone left you at the door after everything was smooth sailing and she says, "oh, you never said you were _____.",
That's racist.
If you said some creepy or petty shit, and she says "you said _____, & I don't fux with that.", You said some shit and she isn't down to pound.
We providers, like other ladies out there, have been through shit and are invested in avoiding drama or pain.
Questions? Comments?
Is there bad blood here??? I garner from ur post that u r a man of color and u don't want to waste ur valuable time throughly researching providers that will never see u. I applaud u for speaking up because u r not alone in this area of the country and the search engine on this site leaves ALOT TO BE DESIRED for the hobbyists. This is a free forum for questions such as this and ur question didn't deserve the negative feedback u got. U asked how to avoid spending hours searching websites. Websites that frequently redirect u to Ashly Madison or some other site u never intended to go to. Not to mention all the tracking of u while u r visiting these sites. U should ask ter directly because u will not really get the answer u r seeking here. Only ter can give a final answer. But I if its really girls that u seek then be patient and watch....lots of choices will come ur way.....but talk to ter. If a girl doesn't like u....lol....guys r out numbered in this world right??? Always remember it's ur cash that u earned that u want to spend.
Rock on with ur racist self....but don't say too much because u'll be labeled an "asshole" if u try to challenge the status quo....
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Can you please direct me to the comments where the OP said, " U asked how to avoid spending hours searching websites"?
And what "negative feedback" did he receive?
I dont know, maybe his post had replies that were deleted by TER and I just didn't see them.
It certainly does not show that he or the lone reply he received before yours were modified so where are you getting this stuff from?
You seem to keep adding things to posts that are not there. Apparently you like to read between the lines and add in your interpretation of what was said and claim it in your reply as what the OP said. By doing this, you change the meaning of what the OP really said.
Your fabrications and embellishments are going to cost you someday if they haven't already.
Maybe you could stop reading into things and stop posting when you're drinking. BTW, when you do post, you really should start using real words instead of text messaging abbreviations.
why do people do it??
the internet is its own drunk courage.. combine that with being drunk on alcohol.....
disaster.
I think u need to re read the first 2 posts again and this time note the little boy yelling "that's racist". I was personally offended because I'm tired of having racism shoved up my ass 24/7 and the last place I want to see it is here. U have issues with me, my mindset, and they're u're issues to live with, but maybe u should explain to everyone why u need to trash me. Pretty slanderous accusations. If I read any of ur reviews won't I find some dfk, bbbj, mish, cg, or any other abbreviated statements??? LOL.... WTF??? TTFN!!!
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this would be better asked there.
i dont really have an answer, I'm not a black hobbyist.
if i was i would probably get annoyed if i had to worry about showing up at the door and someone turning me away.
this comes up quite frequently and I'm not sure how to solve it.
if we had a check box then it would continue on to asians, then specifically asians from india...
then we have the whole age factor..
im not sure where check boxes would stop...
Hair and/or eye color?
Dental disfiguration?
Religion?
Political Afilliation?
Idiotic board persona?
I think that last one is "special"....."short bus special"....really I do....don't believe me?.....I shit u not !!
ROFLMAO!!!!
I see where u r going and I totally agree but a provider called a black dude a racist because a provider didn't want to see him because he is black??? Then said dude asked providers on the board how to circumvent this waste of time happening again because he has schedules and SO's and etc and wants to be proactive (yes I am assuming the dude has a life like most dudes)....and you speak up to blow him off because ur life is apparently perfect and you can just step out and you never get frustrated with this hobby shit ??? I'm asking you...not attacking you because u seem so sure in ur posts.
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His point and question is valid albeit beaten to death on this and probably every other local board. Maybe he's new to this treatment and hasn't seen it discussed, I don't know. I don't blame him nor did I respond to him. I have sympathy for him because I think racism has no place in society and I truly believe that in most cases it is due to ignorance. I do believe that some people have had bad experiences which form their opinions and that is regrettable to say the least. One incident does not make an entire group of people guilty.
I myself am NOT opposed to seeing ladies of any ethnic background. I make my choices based on many factors but skin color or ethnicity are not among them.
Do I get frustrated with this "hobby shit" as you called it? Sure, we all do at some point. However, I have been doing this since 1998 on the Internet and over 25 years now total. I have seen a lot, been involved in some of it and have learned to stay out of most of it.
I am sure of myself, who I am and what I like. I became even more comfortable when I struck the right balance between my real life and this hobby. When things start to get to me, I know it's time to take a break and I have done so many times. I still hobby because of the enjoyment I get from it and when the time comes for me to move on, I will be very comfortable with that decision as well.
Now let me ask you a question.....why do you post the way you do? Something we all learned in our childhood applies here....it's not what you say, it's how you say it. If you were to "tone down" your obvious anger and find better and more accurate ways to comment on topics, you would probably get more responses in kind.
Subtle changes make a difference like with capitalization when writing for example. The meaning of the sentence "I helped my Uncle Jack off his horse" changes when you lose the capital letters...."I helped my uncle jack off his horse". See, it's not WHAT you say, it's HOW you say it.
-- Modified on 3/1/2016 11:50:09 PM
I'm such a big pervert that either way....ur uncle loves jacking off horses....can we make some cash off of this shit??? U know there's a market!!! Thank you for ur insight...
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Providers are people. People have likes and dislikes. Some providers may not see certain people due to prejudice but others may do it because of personal preference.
Personally i am not attracted to heavy ladies I don't have issues with guys who do. I don't hate heavy ladies I just don't want to have sex with them I am not attracted in any way toward them. That doesn't make me prejudice well kind of in a way that personal preferences make all of us prejudice in one way or another against something. But that is a technicality that doesn't fit what we are really taking about here.
Providers may just not feel attraction to certain type of guys Asian or middle eastern or black or Hispanic or white or purple pink blue or green. If they are Not attracted and can't get into it they won't do well this leads to poor service and bad reviews. Impacts their earnings. So before everyone screams they are all racists it just really isn't true. Some are prejudice don't get me wrong. Not all. Not even close. Hell there are providers who don't see young men of any color because of immaturity that goes to their safety. Most on here screen they disqualified people for lots of reasons related to their comfort level. No one has issue with that do they? So everyone should ease up on ladies who are up front and say they don't see whomever and don't assume you know their reasons. And don't judge.
Do you know if she just isn't attracted to them. Or had some personal trauma experience ? Or has other reasons? No one knows. There is just assumptions that it is racism driving it.
All you guys out there not seeing male providers that makes us all homophobes because you won't see them and you have a policy against it ! It applies to everyone with a preference choice. This is just a sensitive one that ladies don't want to have to ask race on the phone. So they put it in the ad.
I think what would help more would be for the boxes to be accurate and updated. I understand waste of time when a board, reviews or site says on thing and behind closed doors you hear, 'Well not any more.' or 'That was an old review or post from before.'
People do discriminate. Its just what some people do. Its a problem to me when you waste somebody's time doing so. I have had several instances of age discrimination. One person even after seeing my ID that I got a fake one made just to trick her?!?
Back to helpful information...if someone is going to pass judgement or refuse you because of something you cannot control, I think you are better off with someone else. I have found providers can often give some (not all the time) good recommendations of others based on your sessions or time.
Thanks for all the feedback...some were interesting to say the least. To clarify, I don't have an issue with a providers preference to see or not see a particular race...that her right. Time is money and I'm simply trying to not waste my time.