That's a GREAT question!
I can only say, that as a client (and a good client at that!), one reason I love Brasil so much, is that I have NEVER had a girl even ask for the donation up front. It's so GFE.
But I totally understand why girls would ask for it upfront, and want to count it, especially if they've been ripped off before. That's just not cool someone would do that to you.
Maybe take the donation and "put it away" in another room, where you could check it there, out of sight, quickly. It would be kinda tacky to count it in front of the client.
It was his second time with me
He was a white collar guy, totally
high class looking.
Just like the first time he left an envelope
on my coffe table with the donation
when he left i counted the donation
only to find it was only two twenties
and some singles!!!!!!
There have being times when some one else will try to give me a ten along with the rest instead of a c note deliberately doing so.
I know that counting the donation can kill the mood.....but what will you guys and girls will sugest to do in a situation like this?
should the guy ask to use the restroom ,giving enough time to make sure everything is ok??
I would like to hear your opinions
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That's a GREAT question!
I can only say, that as a client (and a good client at that!), one reason I love Brasil so much, is that I have NEVER had a girl even ask for the donation up front. It's so GFE.
But I totally understand why girls would ask for it upfront, and want to count it, especially if they've been ripped off before. That's just not cool someone would do that to you.
Maybe take the donation and "put it away" in another room, where you could check it there, out of sight, quickly. It would be kinda tacky to count it in front of the client.
That's a tough one, because the main reason to not handle the envelope at all (along with the donation being in a plain envelope to begin with) is to minimize the appearance of an exchange of money for services. True, that probably would not hold up in court, but actually asking for and then counting the money would certainly be incriminating, whereas there's a chance that ignoring it could be explained away as not knowing what it was. Asking the guy to use the restroom while you count the money would be something of a mood killer.
I know this happens, though I don't have any idea how frequently; a good friend of mine has told me that it's happened to her, where the guy leaves a twenty on top of a stack of singles. Guy thinks he's cool, dropping 29 or 34 bucks for an hour, when all he's doing is souring the milk for the future. And the guy's anonymous: no outing in a bad review like the lady would receive if she shortchanged the guy (say, 20 minutes for an hour or any of the numerous other complaints we are so quick to post in our reviews).
I don't know what to suggest, though. If I were an escort and it happened to me only once or once in a great while, I'd probably just let it slide (and certainly never entertain that guy again), but if it's a more prevalent problem, then maybe a "why don't you take a minute to freshen up in the bathroom, babe?" would be appropriate.
I don't understand the big deal about having someone count a donation in front of you. After all it is a business transaction. I always thought the post meeting payment done for fear of law enforcement.
Some girls who offer get in get out service, don't care about counting the $ or the mood, and that's cool if you know that going in, I prefer a more relaxed, GFE session, even if it is an illusion. So, doing my part to create that mood, and make everyone feel relaxed and comfortable, I'll leave something in view shortly after entering the room, then excuse myself to the bathroom, when I return, it's gone, and we're all happy
I myself do not mind the provider counting the donation in front of me. It isn't a mood killer for me, It is a business transaction nothing more nothing less. Anyone who thinks differently is living on Fantasy Island.
sorry 
if a guy thinks it kills the mood for you to check the donation, that's his problem. it's up to HIM to make it easy for YOU to check it out. as you suggest, let him go to the bathroom so you can check it out discretely (that's what i usually do).
it's true, it's very sexy when a provider doesn't even look at the envelope until afterwards - but if a man EXPECTS that kind of trust, he should also PROVIDE that kind of trust, say in the form of giving up his home address and phone number in case he 'accidentally' shorts the envelope.
In another ocasion after the session the donation was still on the coffe table he got dressed and asked for a glass of water....
when i got back from th kitchen he was no where to be found neither the donation of course!!
some one gave fake 20`s to a friend of mine
unfurtunately after that guy.. she was visited by
the LE.. they found the fake 20`s and she was
charged with a felony!!!
he must think that it was cool but my friend
doing time behind bars... doesn`t think the same!!!!!!!
And i still have a few more.....
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If LE came in right after the guy left the fake 20s, it sounds like a sting to me.
I'm not a legal expert by any means, but it seems like her counsel failed her.
Very explicitly state on their website or whatever that the donation is to be left in an envelope at the beginning of the session. If you can get in the habit of doing that and collecting it then go to "freshen up" and take a quick peek you may save yourself a hassle.
GFE is great but as Ronald Reagan used to say "Trust but verify." Now I know Ronnie probably isn't a favorite on this board but the sentiment is an appropriate one...Of course you could (and should) back channel the scumbag's name to others and tell them to stay away.
Going to take a restroom visit or break may be a good idea but whats to stop the provider from saying that the donation is short once the hobbyist returns from the break?
Just count the donation in front of me, I don't have a problem with it. There is no mood to kill it is just a business transaction.
It all comes down to trust and honesty. As Bob Dylan said years ago, "to live outside the law you must be honest." Some people on either side of the transaction will be dishonest, and that sucks, but what can we do about it? Handling the money directly, in the presence of both parties, in the case of a possible LE sting is clear cut solicitation, which is why it isn't (or shouldn't) be done; additionally, there's the mood killer of it being an obvious transaction (yes, we all know what "donation for time only" means, but as they say regarding fiction, we willingly suspend our disbelief to enhance the illusion of the event).
I see what you mean about the LE thing and I understand that.
I am not into suspending disbelief to enhance the session, I like to as they say "keep it real".
I think you are asking the wrong question. The real question is why did he feel he had to rip you off.
Precisely why clients do this is something i have never undesrtood, perhaps they feel as if they are above being honest , or perhaps they think they can behave however they want because they are only hiring a prostitute.
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How about a "donation plate" in or directly by the bathroom?
Gives you both a chance to "freshen" and both a chance to deal with the deal.
As the chinese proverb goes: fuck me once shame on you; fuck me twice shame on me. That said, what he did is wrong, and I hope you are wiser if not too much more jaded because of that.
on a lighter note, my first experience with a prostitute (a GG), I was quite nervous and shorted her $80 on the table. About 10 minutes after leaving, she called me on my cell and asked about it--I did the right thing and turned around and squared up with her, getting a very nice farewell kiss for my honesty to boot.
Stealing of any kind will bring bad Karma to your door. The universe will balance itself, the problem for the thief is when and where. pay back is a mother f--ker. "Highend" I would tip you not cheat you.