I looked up Mr. Fish's comments on this in the past and I didnt see him say that its a FACT that civies are more likely to have/spread an STD than a p4p girl, in general.
What I have read that he has said is that in his own PERSONAL experience, he has received STD's from civies and not from hookers and therefore p4p gals MAY be safer. It is his OPINION he was giving. Thats fundamentally different than what Julia is saying i.e. that it's a verifiable FACT civie girls are less safe. He stopped short of making the leap of logic that Julia did at least in the 3 or 4 posts I read of his. Didn't have time to check out swims posts. Maybe swim and Fish will clarify their remarks. Semantics does matter re: this issue. Btw, how are you making out with the Storm(s), Storm? lol. Hope you and friends/family are safe and sound.-- Modified on 8/8/2014 7:27:03 PM
Hello all..
I am a would be - first time hobbyist. I am interested in seeing an unnamed higher-end provider, however I do have some reservations that I would like to clear up with the community.
I know every independent provider is different, but how common is it for higher-end providers to get tested for STDs? Reading websites and TER reviews, it seems that this is never mentioned by anyone. It seems common for Hobbyist to receive and give unprotected oral sex with providers on a regular basis, and nobody seems concerned. Do hobbyist just not care? Do providers not care? Why is this overlooked.
Are there independent providers who test regularly al'a girls at the legal brothels? Would this information be posted on their site, or perhaps discussed in person? Or is this something that is just generally ignored among the community?
Is it common for hobbyist to catch STD's? I would imagine so.
My worst fear is catching something I don't want from a provider.... then again, I suppose that could be circumvented by protecting myself at all times, or perhaps not even participating at all.
Any thoughts
Good luck getting accurate information about STSs. Even if you see a STD report it's just a snapshot from the moment the test was done.
There is risk involved with any sexual encounter whether it's P4P or a bar hook-up although I believe P4P is safer given the frequent use of condoms. Do what you can to protect yourself, but if you think the risk is to great find yourself a different hobby.
Dear Mr. Holmes,
Those are massage reviews. No FS providers to date. Should have made note of that.
maybe someone who knows more about this can clarify, but from my googling, in terms if receiving bbbj the only likely risks is herpes, there r two types, herpes 1 and herpes 2. now most people already have herpes 1(cold sores) so even if the provider has herpes 1 orally, it is extremely unlikely she will give u herpes 1 on ur dick
because most people already have herpes 1, it is hard to get it on ur genitals once u have it orally
other stds r an extremely rare risk for oral sex, however if u deep throat or receive dt, it increases that chance(due to the glands in the back of ur throat)
chances of herpes 2 are low assuming everyone uses covered fs however keep in mind herpes 2 sores arent limited to just the penis or the vagina, herpes 2 sores can be located in general area of ur crotch which obviously cant be covered by a condom
none of this info is verified but rather what i researched from googling so if anyone is able to clarify thatd be great
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since becoming a member of TER almost 11 years ago:
Have seen about 60 providers (many before I started submitting reviews), including some in Tijuana. Have received BBBJ from all but one. Performed DATY on all.
No problem. I have been tested regularly during that time.
hey a real world account. Thanks for the info. I guess you've been pretty lucky with the crap shoot.
Thanks for all the info people. Definitely helpful. I conclude that you can't be totally safe, unless you're totally safe.
From the info I gathered online, there is practically zero chance of contracting HIV (see HAART), and some risk of contracting misc. STD through BBBJ both give and receive. I would assume your chances for the latter, decrease if you choose your provider wisely and vise versa (al'a Tijuana).
So with a little luck, and alotta smarts, you should be OK.
Have seen about 60 providers (many before I started submitting reviews), including some in Tijuana. Have received BBBJ from all but one. Performed DATY on all.
No problem. I have been tested regularly during that time.