I've seen two different ladies, probably like day and night. Anyway, neither state a hotel fee is covered in their donations. The first lady that I saw raised her donation right before our second date to make her donations more comprable to the escorts in our area. Before this, I also made reservations and paid the hotel fees, and I didn't view it as a problem. Between her new rates and hotel fees, however, I'm paying an additional $200 every date. I have respect for this lady and really enjoy her company, so haggling really seems rude. However, I may not be able to see her at all or even on a regular basis, as I had planned. I went to another provider with the same rates, but she paid the hotel fees and even made the reservations. We had a great 2 hours together and further donations did not even come into the picture. Keeping in mind, incall is not a possibility for her or me even though I'm 33-years-old and single (long story). What are the guidelines for who pays hotel fees on outcalls if the two parties are in the same city? Client pays, companion pays, or hotel fees split between them. I realize that every lady is probably different, but in general, what does everyone else think? Also, what is your perspective on increasing rates with previous clients? I'm relatively new to seeing escorts. In a short time, however, I've became a fan of providers and responsibilty for this comes from the two ladies that I've mentioned above. I don't want to offend any lady from simply expecting too much. Donation etiquette also seems such a touchy subject to broach. It's like saying, "I love spending time with you, but your not worth prying open my wallet with a crobar to give you so much money." Thanks to all of you for any input that you may have.
1. Outcall: She is coming to your location. You should be responsible for the accomodations and her rate.
2. Incall: You would be going to her location. She should be responsible for her accomodations, and you just pay her rate.
As for increasing rates for previous clients:
Every provider is different on her rate increase guidelines. Some choose to "grandfather" their old clients at their previous rates, while having new clients pay her updated rate.
But the question is to each woman, what is the condition of "grandfathering" an old client at the previous rate?
Outcall, you pay, it's that simple.
When home I do not have a location suitable for incall thus I only do outcall to either his place or a suitable establishment (meaning forget the no-tell fleabag down the street). Outcall in my definition is he provides the location. As I am low volume and seldom see more than one gent in a day it is rather silly for me to set up a permanant incall location.
When I travel, I will host incall where I am staying. There again I still only see no more than 3 gents a day as I travel to places where I have other things I also wish to enjoy and like to unwind with a hot bubblebath after each client.
On fee increases, I have never gone up on my fees thus I can only say what I would do should at some time in the future I increase rates. For me that means I do grandfather in all previous clients.
I cover all my own expenses. Sometimes that means I book a room and pay for it and a fella reschedules his appointment and I'm out the $ for the room. Sometimes gentlemen offer to cover the cost of room if they are booking a last minute appointment, which is nice since you generally have to pay a bit more when you can't shop around for a reasonable rate. I never expect this, it's just nice when it does happen. I think a provider should cover her expenses when she is providing an incall location. If she is traveling (outcall), even if it's to your hotel, you should be covering that cost.
As for rate increases, I haven't ever raised mine. I think if I felt the need to raise my rate it would have to be across the board with no grandfathering. Personally, unless a gal is inexperienced and set her rate far below the local average, I don't think she should be needing a rate increase. If the local average is going up, then it's a trend and she shouldn't be singled out for staying competitive.
I warn clients on whether I am incall/outcall. I tell them that if I get 3 clients or more a week, I can get the weekly rate but I never count on new clients to show up. If I am outcall, I still get a hotel and we split the fee 50/50 for the day and I give a longer session but I discourage outcall at the house due to fear of getting caught by neighbors, wives, girlfriend and video cameras.
I've always assumed that if the lady was coming to my location (outcall), then I would be paying for the hotel room. I've only had outcall appointments a few times, and it's been 4 years since I last had one, but in all of my outcall experiences, the hotel room fee was never an issue. I had already secured a room before contacting the woman I was wanting to see.
I consider the hotel room fee to be a part of the overall outcall appointment cost, and wouldn't expect the lady to absorb any of that cost.
Outcall, your location, you pay for the hotel. Incall, her location, her responsiblity, even if it is a hotel (unless she indicates otherwise at booking).
Grandfathering a client is at the ladies discretion. Of course, if she doesn't appreciate your continued business enough to grandfather you, you don't have to keep seeing her. I once had a lady who didn't grandfather me. I told her I would not be seeing her anymore. She called back the next day and said she would honor our regular rate. I declined and haven't seen her again.
It sounds like you've already paid the higher rate, after she raised it. I guess that means you've agreed to the higher rate in her eyes, and you're probably stuck with that rate now unless she gives discounts for longer term regulars. If you haven't paid the higher fee yet I don't think asking her is terribly rude.
The incall/outcall definetion has been covered, but if you've been paying for the hotel it's considered outcall...Perhaps you could ask your ladies if they have incall locations or if they ever host incall days and see where the conversation goes.