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Re: From Out of Town or Not...,Cheapskate Non the Less...
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Posted By: Eroticthrust
Dude,...Really, Really,..these girls put themselves at risk on a regular basis for our enjoyment and just because you had one reputable provider neglect to meet your expectations by not showing up at your cheesy hotel, doesn't necessarily mean she deserves such a harsh board review. I have actually had the unfortunate pleasure of meeting a business associate this Hotel/Motel who happen to be out of town as well, needless to say he canceled his reservation and changed to a much higher class hotel for only $20 more...I agree with Ashley it's pretty much a POS of a hotel. There are plenty of bargains on much higher class of hotel's in Vegas, just need to do a little more research, or you may want to consider lowering the class of provider within your budget limitations.

Best of luck!

Ashley, it would appear this guy likely did you a favor...
Ah, the knight in shining armor has arrived.  Or are you her boyfriend/manager?  Hard to tell.

I didn't know anything about the location.  When I researched 3 star resorts bally's and a few that I had heard of on the strip came up - I thought that's what I was getting but at that point with priceline I was stuck with it but even then i didn't know anything about it; I agree its not a nice place but how was I supposed to know?  I didn't check in until I finished with work for the day 1/2 hour before the appt was supposed to begin.    

She knew where it was over 12 hours in advance and could have contacted me at any point and told me and we might have been able to come to other arrangements.  Instead, she calls me an hour AFTER the agreed upon start time which was late night already (which she had agreed to).  I was already starting to shop for another provider replacement but she said she would do the appt.  She then calls me 40 later and says she doesn't like the hotel.  By that time its almost 1 am and I wasn't going to waste anymore time or money trying to chase down an appt with her.  Possibly you can explain to me why at that point I should have offered to spring an extra $100 for another hotel room when she was already 2 hours late and texting me to cancel at the last minute?    My hobby budget is just fine btw - I had 3 other appts this week but she was going to be my last hurrah but left me deeply disappointed.


I honestly don't understand the mentality of guys who are just fine letting SP's treat us like crap.  I take the time to contact her, provide references, shower and shave and make sure I smell nice all so I can spend a lot of hard earned money on someone but you don't seem to think there should be any accountability on their part for not performing up to any standards.  The attitude of "oh well, they are just hookers, what to you expect?  We should just be lucky they are willing to take our money" to me is very demeaning to the providers so who is being more unkind - I think your attitude doesn't have much regard for women or their business.  I treat them as business professionals and expect the same courtesy in return.

By being late 1.5 hours with an over used excuse & then canceling because she didn't like the incall I booked even though she knew the location 12 hours in advance.  & to top it all off she then tries the bait & switch with her "roommate" Madison.  Beware guys.

Edited to add she threatened me by text if I posted about it here.

-- Modified on 5/11/2012 12:57:39 AM

You must have missed the disclaimer on my website that specificically says,"I reserve the right to not show or do as I see fit if at any time I feel threatened or unsafe." The related link is below.

My efforts to contact other providers, who I know well, (some DO go underneath the radar genius) got me called "worthless" by you and to top it all off... The Gold Coast is a disgusting , ghetto,  scary as hell hotel and I've never been there before.  Now I know why.

Other than that, my reputation speaks for itself and you, sir, are worthless to me.  That is what you said correct?? Bait and switch?! Give me a break.

Ashley Jade

Posted By: bigmart
By being late 1.5 hours with an over used excuse & then canceling because she didn't like the incall I booked even though she knew the location 12 hours in advance.  & to top it all off she thematic tries the bait & switch with her "roommate" Madison.  Beware guys.

I am from out of town and booked a 3 star through priceline.  I didn't arrive at the hotel until 20 min before our scheduled time.  You knew the location 13 hours in advance when I booked it.  I would expect you as the local professional to inform me well in advance if something wasn't right.  It's not like I live here and know every hotel and casino in town.  If you were unfamiliar with the location I would expect you to do some homework.  Apparently it was good enough for your "roommate "

TheCoochieMonster978 reads

First of all, thanks for the morning entertainment, it's been rather boring on here of late. Oh, and it's nice to know I'm not the only dude in the world that didn't get laid last night!  LOL   But I'm curious about that disclaimer you referenced.  Maybe I haven't had enough coffee yet, but I've perused your site and can't find it.  

Now as for the Gold Coast being "ghetto".....I must assume you knew BMart was from Detroit, right?  'nuff said! LOL

Along with the mispelling of my name it's "PM" not"PN" I'll post it again.  It's on the contact page 4th paragraph down.  
Not to mention when I tried to send a replacement he called me worthless and hung up on me. He was at a Holiday Inn and switched to the Gold Coast because of a smoking fetish which he also leaves out.
He's beyond rude and I wasn't at all comfortable.

Posted By: TheCoochieMonster
First of all, thanks for the morning entertainment, it's been rather boring on here of late. Oh, and it's nice to know I'm not the only dude in the world that didn't get laid last night!  LOL   But I'm curious about that disclaimer you referenced.  Maybe I haven't had enough coffee yet, but I've perused your site and can't find it.  

Now as for the Gold Coast being "ghetto".....I must assume you knew BMart was from Detroit, right?  'nuff said! LOL  

I fail to see what this text means at all for backing you up?  I had already posted this thread on the board before you sent that text?

shit happens.  She didn't like the set-up or location or something.  If she was uncomfortable with the situation, she probably did you a favor by canx rather than showing up, taking your money, and both of you having a miserable 1.5 hours.  She didn't cash-n-dash, she didn't up-sell, it doesn't sound like you "fronted" any money.  I don't really think this is the right forum to be airing a dispute with a girl over simple canx.  

If you are going LV, this kind of shit happens.  The nice thing about LV, if you do the SLIGHTEST amount of planning ahead, if one girl canx, all it should take is a phone call or two and you can have another one the way.  You obviously have access to the net and this site, you have plenty of reviews under your belt, you should have been able to find a "replacement" in pretty short order.

There's always tonight if your still there you have plenty of time.... good luck and have fun!!!

... you're gonna hafta go on BP to make up for the lost hotel $$$.

Never had a problem with the Gold Coast other than you could develop lung cancer from the smoke in the Casino.  Cheap gambling and liberal comps plus the ladies I have seen in Las Vegas never had a problem with it.

Ashley walking through the Gold Coast would have been the best thing that's happened to that place in a few years... Heads would have been turning, jaws would have been dropping. Lol..  

;)



TheCoochieMonster999 reads

You must be new on the board.  You should peruse the archives of the 10 year history of the Vegas Board here!!!  Ahhh, those were the days my friend!!

It always natural to want to find "blame" when something goes wrong, but sometimes all you can do is try to learn from what happened.

There are posts here every week asking about what hotels to use, I think the South Point has been "asked about" three times in the last month.  The are threads with recommended lists of hotels.

Allot of girls offer "nice" in calls, Fenchies post just a week ago for example, Ashley's site clearly says she only does outcall, and the OP says "the incall he booked" , hobbyists don't "book the incall" that's a contradiction, thats just another type of outcall, i guess he was trying to be accomadating (?), but there are several ladies that offer to book in call with advanced notice and sometimes a fee.  If you need an in call then you should find an girl that will "book" an in call."

Ashley did find him a last minute replacement (not the same as bait and switch), that's was nice, especially given all the issues.

The Gold Coast is Downtown, I just learned Downtown is considered a bad neighborhood, I've been there four times, I still haven't seen the "bad part" part, I learned it was bad from reading this board.  I think I've read the Golden Nuggett is the only hotel most girls will visit, but an out of towner would not know these things.

Three stars is really not that good, but you only know that if you book allot of hotels. I learned about the "stars" when i moved my mother from Florida; she refused to stay at anything less than four.  Some girls state on their site that they only visit "certain" hotels with x number of stars.

It sounds like everybody tried to do the right thing but "shit happened."

It's on Flamingo, just west of I-15, right next to the Rio and across the street from the Palms.  Owned by Boyd Gaming (who also own the Orleans, Sam's Town, the Sun Coast, among others).

I've been there several times.  Had business functions in their banquet rooms.  Even got a room there once to see a lovely provider and everything went well.  In my opinion it's a little low end, but otherwise just fine.  The restaurants are decent and you'll spend less than what you would on the strip.

Still, a provider does have right to refuse service if she doesn't like the ambiance.  (Hint: don't book a room at a Budget Suites.)  This is a teachable moment.  Next time, ask the provider you are planning to see, what her preferences are for a hotel.

I always wondered why I see so many posts about "I'm thinking of staying here, will girls come to see me".

I usually stay in a timeshare, I once had a lady tell me about one I was considering "that's a bad neighborhood" and it was right around the corner from the Tropicana.  Well I just next time I'm ready to book a time share I'm gonna put up a "what about this place" post.

Yes, a very teachable moment.

Posted By: bigmart
By being late 1.5 hours with an over used excuse & then canceling because she didn't like the incall I booked even though she knew the location 12 hours in advance.  & to top it all off she then tries the bait & switch with her "roommate" Madison.  Beware guys.

Edited to add she threatened me by text if I posted about it here.

-- Modified on 5/11/2012 12:57:39 AM

Dude,...Really, Really,..these girls put themselves at risk on a regular basis for our enjoyment and just because you had one reputable provider neglect to meet your expectations by not showing up at your cheesy hotel, doesn't necessarily mean she deserves such a harsh board review. I have actually had the unfortunate pleasure of meeting a business associate this Hotel/Motel who happen to be out of town as well, needless to say he canceled his reservation and changed to a much higher class hotel for only $20 more...I agree with Ashley it's pretty much a POS of a hotel. There are plenty of bargains on much higher class of hotel's in Vegas, just need to do a little more research, or you may want to consider lowering the class of provider within your budget limitations.

Best of luck!

Ashley, it would appear this guy likely did you a favor...

Posted By: Eroticthrust
Dude,...Really, Really,..these girls put themselves at risk on a regular basis for our enjoyment and just because you had one reputable provider neglect to meet your expectations by not showing up at your cheesy hotel, doesn't necessarily mean she deserves such a harsh board review. I have actually had the unfortunate pleasure of meeting a business associate this Hotel/Motel who happen to be out of town as well, needless to say he canceled his reservation and changed to a much higher class hotel for only $20 more...I agree with Ashley it's pretty much a POS of a hotel. There are plenty of bargains on much higher class of hotel's in Vegas, just need to do a little more research, or you may want to consider lowering the class of provider within your budget limitations.

Best of luck!

Ashley, it would appear this guy likely did you a favor...
Ah, the knight in shining armor has arrived.  Or are you her boyfriend/manager?  Hard to tell.

I didn't know anything about the location.  When I researched 3 star resorts bally's and a few that I had heard of on the strip came up - I thought that's what I was getting but at that point with priceline I was stuck with it but even then i didn't know anything about it; I agree its not a nice place but how was I supposed to know?  I didn't check in until I finished with work for the day 1/2 hour before the appt was supposed to begin.    

She knew where it was over 12 hours in advance and could have contacted me at any point and told me and we might have been able to come to other arrangements.  Instead, she calls me an hour AFTER the agreed upon start time which was late night already (which she had agreed to).  I was already starting to shop for another provider replacement but she said she would do the appt.  She then calls me 40 later and says she doesn't like the hotel.  By that time its almost 1 am and I wasn't going to waste anymore time or money trying to chase down an appt with her.  Possibly you can explain to me why at that point I should have offered to spring an extra $100 for another hotel room when she was already 2 hours late and texting me to cancel at the last minute?    My hobby budget is just fine btw - I had 3 other appts this week but she was going to be my last hurrah but left me deeply disappointed.


I honestly don't understand the mentality of guys who are just fine letting SP's treat us like crap.  I take the time to contact her, provide references, shower and shave and make sure I smell nice all so I can spend a lot of hard earned money on someone but you don't seem to think there should be any accountability on their part for not performing up to any standards.  The attitude of "oh well, they are just hookers, what to you expect?  We should just be lucky they are willing to take our money" to me is very demeaning to the providers so who is being more unkind - I think your attitude doesn't have much regard for women or their business.  I treat them as business professionals and expect the same courtesy in return.

I couldn't be more happy and certain that I made the right decision after reading your moronic and hopefully last post about me.  Where should I begin??
Well, saying that I did not  threaten you via text is redundant because you already have egg on your face after the posted picture of my text.  Suffice it to say you have established yourself to be a liar.  So, that leaves me with 3 more key points:
1- I am not Travelocity  or your "3 star hotel" hunting travel agent, whose job as a provider it is,  to frequent ALL hotel/casino establishments in the greater Clark County area with your "12 hours advanced notice" and deem whether it's suitable or not. I HAD NEVER BEEN THERE BEFORE AND RESEARCHING A PROSPECTIVE CLIENTS HOTEL CHOICE ISN'T PART OF ANY PROVIDERS JOB.
2- You DID NOT TREAT ME AT ALL LIKE A "BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL." If it is your customary way of speaking to business associates on the phone while they are in the parking lot of your shit show hotel,  by calling them worthless and slamming the phone down on them, yelling about your $60.00 upgrade costs you've incured etc.  because I said I didn't feel safe there... Well, I hope you aren't in business for yourself.  At which point I left the Gold Coast Parking lot & ceased my efforts to find you a replacement.
3- I am a true independent provider.  As a "business professional" you should have read my site because the text is there FOR A REASON.  I don't tolerate insults, mean comments and especially men like yourself.  Looking at the photo gallery, taking a shower and providing references is fabulous.  On top of ALL OF THE THINGS YOU DO SO RIGHT, READ A LADIES SITE.  It's common sense.  Insulting a fellow hobbyist and insinuating he is my "boyfriend/manager" is not only juvenile and lame,  it's preposterous.  But if that's the best you could do is take a pot-shot at a gentleman I've never even met before, hell, knock yourself out.
I'm happy to have never made your acquaintence and good luck in your future endeavors.
Ashley Jade

1.  I have no clue as to what the picture of your text means if anything - it was already after I had already made my post that you had wasted my time and ruined my night.  Other than that I have no idea of its relevance.    

2.  You were almost 2 hours late by the time you told me you didn't like the hotel and you weren't going to do the appt.  You could have offered to split the cost of another hotel that was acceptable but you don't' value your clients time or effort.

3.  Researching  a clients hotel choice is exactly your job - you are the one making the money, you are the one concerned about your safety and you are the one who is decidng where or not you want to do an appt.  If I had told you while you are on your way, I could understand you being upset but there was plenty of time to call it off and not waste my time or could have suggested another solution.  If you were that concerned about your safety, I would have expected you look up where you had to be later on that day.  On the other hand, I didn't realize I was booking the queen of Las Vegas and had to get the high roller suite at the Wynn.

4.  Still confused as to how this place wasn't good enough for you but your recommended your "roommate" with no notice who thought the place was fine - someone whom I had never heard of, doesn't have a website or reviews.  That is my safety and that is why I turned it down.

5.  YOU are most certainly NOT a business professional.

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