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Posted By: JackDunphy
4) Have him leave the door open a smidge so you dont have to knock and draw any more attention to you then need be.
I used to do this but not any longer at new hotels. When the door was ajar for more than a minute or so I got a knock on the door and it wasn't my date. It was hotel security. Some new key card entry systems are on-line, networked into the hotel security computer. It's a nice feature to cut down on burglary but it has its obvious downside.

It takes some effort but if you know she's on her way up you can keep a lookout through the peephole in order to minimize her "standing in the hall" time.

Hello ladies and gentlemen,

I'm a new provider who wants to maintain privacy and discretion.

What's the best way to do a discreet outcall? Do you meet in the hotel bar and walk up together? Walk by the front desk alone and hope they don't ask for ID? What do you do say if you're at a high end spa and they want your name to put into the system?

Any recommendations, articles, or threads on this?

Thanks

JackDunphy970 reads

1) Walk thru the lobby like you own the place.
2) Dress conservatively and bring a clothing request in a bag.
3) If its not a key card elevator situation, I would suggest going right to the gents room.
4) Have him leave the door open a smidge so you dont have to knock and draw any more attention to you then need be.
5) Make sure it is mid level or upscale hotel, without a lot of history of LE

Posted By: JackDunphy
4) Have him leave the door open a smidge so you dont have to knock and draw any more attention to you then need be.
I used to do this but not any longer at new hotels. When the door was ajar for more than a minute or so I got a knock on the door and it wasn't my date. It was hotel security. Some new key card entry systems are on-line, networked into the hotel security computer. It's a nice feature to cut down on burglary but it has its obvious downside.

It takes some effort but if you know she's on her way up you can keep a lookout through the peephole in order to minimize her "standing in the hall" time.

Hi Courtney,
When I invite a lady to meet me in my hotel room, I give her the room number and she just walks in and comes to the room.  There's never any need to talk with the desk clerks, just find the elevator or stairs and come in.  Dress conservatively, act like you belong there and no one will question you.  I've met girls in their hotel rooms so I know it can feel awkward to enter a lobby and walk thru it but if the desk clerk even notices me I'll say hi and keep walking.  Never had a problem. Never been asked to show ID.  And I never meet a girl downstairs in the lounge, too conspicuous.

Sometimes I intentionally choose a hotel or motel in which each room has a door to the outside.  That way I can meet a girl or she can meet me without having to walk across a lobby.  More discreet, more anonymous,  in my opinion.  Best of luck!

Many ladies will prefer not or refuse to meet at a motel or motel style hotel (where each room has its own outside entrance) and for good reason. The reasons are because of the exact features you outline. Being more discrete and more anonymous could be used to the advantage of a client that has nefarious intentions.

Posted By: ed2000
Many ladies will prefer not or refuse to meet at a motel or motel style hotel (where each room has its own outside entrance) and for good reason. The reasons are because of the exact features you outline. Being more discrete and more anonymous could be used to the advantage of a client that has nefarious intentions.  
 
I would never see a gent who stayed at this type of place where the doors face out to the parking lot not discreet at all and in my personal opinion not too safe.Also some of the places are not too nice and some weird people hanging out in the parking lot.
To be discreet in an outcall situation ask the gent ahead of time where the hotel elevators are located if you are going to a hotel that is not familiar to you.That way you will not have to stop and ask the front desk or security.Dress conservative the short dress and skirt and high heels can be put on behind closed doors.

I have had gents meet downstairs at the hotel bar first for a drink before going up but that is usually the case for hotels that have a key card and require the guest to come down.Depending on what city you are located meeting downstairs may or may not draw attention.In vegas where I am meeting downstairs is no big deal the hotels are so big and there are usually conventions going on so no one is really paying attention.If you are in a city where the hotel is very quiet and not too much going on I would suggest meeting somewhere in the hotel for the guy to give a key card to the room and go up separate or go up together all depending on the circumstances

are the preferred ploys of LE who likes to see who's coming, so that's another reason to avoid them.

You have to realize that this guy has over 80 reviews going back to 2002. Obviously his method works for him.  
Just like everything, all TER "newbie rules" have exceptions.
:)

You do have a point and it would be a good point if CourtneySpark's main objective was to meet sweetman or guys like him. Kudos to sweetman for having a method that works for him but the point remains that most non BP providers do not like motels and will not go to them for the reasons stated.

This wasn't a denigration of sweetman's methods but rather a safety clarification of his methods regarding a provider stating she was interested in maintaining her discretion and privacy during outcalls.

-- Modified on 4/20/2014 8:32:07 PM

GaGambler448 reads

I don't know the exact percentage of ladies who refuse to come to a motel with the doors facing out to the parking lot, but the percentage is certainly high enough to warrant warning newbies against renting such a room as the chances are very good they might be stuck in that room alone when their date cancels on them because of said choice of room.

I was merely pointing out that sweetman is an experienced hobbyist, and his methods obviously worked for him. My point was that there are exceptions to every "rule."

Hi P.S. et all. Thanks for noticing that I am an experienced hobbyist! My methods do work for me.  I certainly have had ladies tell me they prefer upscale hotels, in which case that's what I would use.  But when I choose an "affordable" motel with outside entrances to each room, it's generally with ladies who already know me and trust me, so there's never been a problem.  I am very aware of LE scrutiny, but I feel even less comfortable being noticed, or having my date get noticed, in an upscale but quiet hotel lobby.  But when I do use an upscale hotel either for IC or OC I try to "walk thru the lobby like I own the place". Good advice.

It’s not at all unusual for hotel guests to receive business colleagues for a meeting in their room. Dress professionally (in a business manner). Carrying a brief case or computer bag would be a normal accessory. Know where the elevators are before you enter and head directly for them. Avoid calling your client from the lobby. Some higher scale hotels have elevator security where a room key is needed to enter the floor number button or a guard in the lobby asks to see the room card. Know this situation ahead of time. It may be necessary that your client come down to walk you up (or meet you in the bar) but dress and act professionally and it will look like you belong. If by chance you are stopped or addressed by hotel staff, knowing his name and room number (if asked) will alleviate any worries they might have.

from a guys's perspective,  I parked valet and they had a guest parking policy where I had to give the room number of the guest in seeing. the guy looked up the info said her real name right to me,  to verify is who I'm visiting.  

fortunately,  I knew her name already I was there to hang out after she was done working. she changed hotels the next day because parking and discreetness became an issue unless she instructs her clients to park a block away.  

other than these very very rare incidents,  I havent had to give my info or even talk to the front desk vast majority of time.  

When I did out calls,  girls just came just directly to my room  if the elevators don't require a key card.  Sometimes,  we'd meet at the restaurant to eat.  I've also met some ladies at the hotel bar too if it is crowded or walked around the hotel together as well,  especially in Vegas or hotels attached to malls where there are lots of people.  

I generally ask the girl to come directly to my room if it's a 1hr appointment since there's no time for other things and it's more discreet that way

the location of the elevators.  "Enter the lobby and turn to your left and proceed towards the elevators" is great information to have. It saves you having to look around for a sign telling you where the elevators are located.

As has been said, dress appropriately, carry a computer bag/backpack which can contain your sexy clothes and other essentials, and walk in like you own the place and BELONG.

It really helps with the smoothness...  tell the person coming in, how to find the elevators.  It's usually straight past the desk then...  to your right or left but knowing is a huge help, especially if it's around a corner.    

Posted By: keystonekid
the location of the elevators.  "Enter the lobby and turn to your left and proceed towards the elevators" is great information to have. It saves you having to look around for a sign telling you where the elevators are located.  
   
 As has been said, dress appropriately, carry a computer bag/backpack which can contain your sexy clothes and other essentials, and walk in like you own the place and BELONG.

on an outcall I get a call when she's about to enter the lobby...  gives plenty of time to get to the door.

This won't apply to an urban hotel, but if in the suburbs, most larger hotels have a tower section and a function room wing.

As you approach the hotel, note which side of the hotel the tower is on, then head in that direction as you cross the lobby.  Invariably, the elevators will be at the base of the tower section.

Dress the part.  Look as if you belong there.  If asked my name I always respond with Miss & my real last name because whoever I am there to see knows my real last name from supplying a deposit for me to be there in the first place.  I do not dress, like a hooker, nor do I act, like one.  I am always friendly & respectful.  I will ask the client what he prefers.  Sometimes we meet in the lobby for cocktails first, or I just walk directly up to the room.  Depending upon the special request I will bring my heels & an outfit to change into once in private.

I usually go to an incall.. but twice I have been in a hotel and had an outcall.. Both times I asked the provider to call me when they were in the parking lot.. THat way I knew they would be there in 2 or 3 minutes and they knew I was in the room.. Once I had a ,new to me , provider call the hotel and ask for my room to be sure I was in that room.. problem was they asked her what my name was.., and she came up quickly with a story.. and I happened to be there.. but very easily I could have been somehwere else.. or in the shower.. she called as she was leaving her home about 45 minutes away..

The safest thing to do is just get the room number ahead of time and head on up when you arrive.  Unless you are at some wonky Vegas or AC hotel where they ID everyone heading to the elevators you are not going to get asked for ID by the desk.  Have your client give you a heads-up as to where the elevator is as you walk in the front door so that you can walk past the desk and through the lobby as if you belong there.  I have also met ladies in the bar, outside of the hotel and even in the lobby if there was an issue with elevator access.

An out call, by nature, is much more discreet to begin with since your customer is, as far as the hotel is concerned, doing nothing more than meeting a friend and taking her up to his room.  You are not obligated to show ID to anyone since you are with a registered guest.  Again, unless the elevator requires key card access you are still better off just getting the room number ahead of time and heading on up when you arrive.  Discussing this ahead of time will put you both on the same page and that is always a good idea.

I appreciate you all taking the time to reply and helping a newbie out!  

There are probably other new providers reading this thread too so I hope it's of help to them as well.

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