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We'd all like to discover a UTR talent, but the chances of that happening are slim to none.  Just because she is new does not mean she is UTR.  If you have seen one of her ads, she is out in the open with no reviews yet.  Anyone will tell you to steer clear of providers like her.  The only way I'd see someone with no reviews is if one of my trusted hobby buddies, or a provider I have seen and know well, recommended her.  Otherwise, I'd look elsewhere.  

If you really want to see this gal, do the research on her, phone, pics, website?, etc....

Swim

Hello i"m not  relatively new here (well almost), but i figure to post this over here since i'm still a newbie.  I started my hobby by going to the kmp's and never had bad experiences.  As of right now i have an ultimate atf independent who knows how to spoil me good.  Yet this hobby allures us with other potential experiences.  I know the basics though,, see providers who are only well reviewd by authentic reviewer, and no dirty talk on mail or phone till interaction between clients and providers is private and welcoming.  What if i would like to discover more under the radar, i got my eyes on someone but they are new with no reviews.  If a bait and switch ever occured what can  i do, just leave?  Ha! I mean i don't know can I hear some experiences from the veterans.  And besides LE, can i get robbed or even killed?  I want to hear stories please, thank you

It seems you are lacking experience to see different providers and hence you seem to be a little frightened to take the next step.  But unless you do take the next step, your fear won't go away.

You cannot really discover an UTR unless you network with other guys and providers.  If you ask me, a true UTR finds you, rather than you finding her. As a result of being around for a little longer than you, I've been asked several times if I wanted to see someone that a provider or a John knew. Sometimes I say YES, and sometimes pass up the opportunity - depending on my needs at the time.  At one point, for 7-8 months, I solely hobbied with 3 different UTR ladies.  

Yes, if someone is playing games by using stolen pics to fool you, B&S, you leave. The sooner you leave the better. Easier to leave incall on your two feet than kick someone out of an outcall. Hence, I would never invite an unestablished provider to my hotel room. So something to keep in mind.  

Yes, you can get killed.. Just like you can get killed by going from 7-11 to your car carrying a carton of milk. LOL. But realistically speaking,  providers are at larger risk of getting hurt by Johns than the other way round.

which means she is not really UTR, but just someone without reviews yet.  Have you tried Googleing her name yet?  You might find ads elsewhere that way.

You can also post on your local board if anyone has seen her or knows of her by reputation.

This is not a true UTR, as true UTRs do not advertise at all.

Now, if you met her through some other source, like introduced by a common person, then at least you have that person to vouch for her.

I see a handful of UTR gals, mostly whom I met at MPs and then I asked them to see me off campus.  One was a friend of a provider whom I met when that provider asked me if I wanted to see her in a three-some, and after that we started to see each other regularly.

LE busted, robbed, and murdered are never out of the range of possibility, but you set the odds by how risky you want to play.  If the thought disturbs you, then don't do it.  This is supposed to be fun, not like having an appendix taken out.



We'd all like to discover a UTR talent, but the chances of that happening are slim to none.  Just because she is new does not mean she is UTR.  If you have seen one of her ads, she is out in the open with no reviews yet.  Anyone will tell you to steer clear of providers like her.  The only way I'd see someone with no reviews is if one of my trusted hobby buddies, or a provider I have seen and know well, recommended her.  Otherwise, I'd look elsewhere.  

If you really want to see this gal, do the research on her, phone, pics, website?, etc....

Swim

who are new have no reviews so you can't necessarily always go by that train of thought. We all started somewhere and someone took that leap of faith to see us prior to the review system here. Website, photos, her contact with you should be a clear communication as well as how she screens. Take note on that specifically. Not sure your 'budget' and the kind of gals you are seeing, BP/ Eros/P411 or other ads but that can be also a clear sign of where to stay away from with or without reviews imo. In any event, use your big head and not your small one and be safe. Lots of luck.

should only see well-reviewed providers; meaning providers with at least 6 reviews from established reviewers with at least that many reviews over time.

No need to risk it during early stages of one's 'hobbying career'.  Taylor would be right that girls have to start somewhere but new guys should definitely just stick to established ladies.  LE risk exists not to mention gambling on appearance and performance when the girl has almost zero presence here

hey you doin guys,

im new here also, just read all your posts. very informative thanks. ill be doing as suggested. just had one question, since I am new, what do i do if a lady asks for a reference(s)? I don't have any. I read on the help center, a suggestion of really just trying to convince them your not a serial killer or cop lol. Any other suggestions?

thanks in advance!

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