Suggestion and Policy

yes, I am aware...
Epsilon_Eridani 477 reads
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... that rule has been around for a long time.

that's why I am proposing this change. Or at least modify the rule to allow a mention of drug abuse.

yea, I had to use "creative" wording, but I still ended up getting a bunch of PMs asking what I meant. I had to end up creating a "canned" response because I got tired of repeating myself a dozen times!

I'm not referencing "recreational" use... that's a totally different topic.  

I'm referring to real drug addiction that has obvious signs of abuse.
Posted By: perfectstorm
Re: That has been a long standing TER policy, and as a long time member you should know that. I'm not saying it's a good rule or bad rule, just that it's always been there. I also know many reviewers have found creative ways to describe that a provider was "not all there" without coming right out and saying she was using drugs.

Epsilon_Eridani1442 reads

... I had mentioned that the provider was a drug user.  

Really, TER??  

For many of us hobbyists, that's an important item to mention because not only for the safety of the hobbyist, but it does help us to determine if we should or should not schedule with that provider. Another good reason is that many of us hobbyists want to lower our risks of getting busted by the police.  

What if the police were busting that provider for possession of illegal drugs and come flying in the room and find me with that provider. I can be busted for possession, whether or not I had any knowledge of the illegal drugs. I am doomed because TER refused to allow that piece of information in the reviews.

In that review, I had mentioned that this provider had track marks in various parts of her body. Majority of the marks were recent.

The provider in question had a lot of great reviews, but apparently, her lifestyle took a turn for the worst and that was never reflected in the reviews because TER does not allow it.

My suggestion?

Allow reviewers like myself to mention drug abuse to protect us hobbyists and reduce the risk of getting busted by the police

The bigger worry is health related.  If she's got track marks, one doesn't know whether those needles are clean or not.  I personally would have just stopped and most likely ended the time.  If she's got a true medical need, she would have to prove it.

medical injection sides are in totally different areas than recreational (injection) drug users. frequent injectors, such as diabetics, use body fat areas, lower tummy, inner thighs, etc.  recreational injection sites are along the pathways of blood vessels, inner elbows, inner wrists, etc.

I'm not saying it's a good rule or bad rule, just that it's always been there. I also know many reviewers have found creative ways to describe that a provider was "not all there" without coming right out and saying she was using drugs.

Epsilon_Eridani478 reads

... that rule has been around for a long time.

that's why I am proposing this change. Or at least modify the rule to allow a mention of drug abuse.

yea, I had to use "creative" wording, but I still ended up getting a bunch of PMs asking what I meant. I had to end up creating a "canned" response because I got tired of repeating myself a dozen times!

I'm not referencing "recreational" use... that's a totally different topic.  

I'm referring to real drug addiction that has obvious signs of abuse.

Posted By: perfectstorm
Re: That has been a long standing TER policy, and as a long time member you should know that. I'm not saying it's a good rule or bad rule, just that it's always been there. I also know many reviewers have found creative ways to describe that a provider was "not all there" without coming right out and saying she was using drugs.

but the problem arises when we assume things that are not true. Unless you actually saw drugs, you don't know what she was on. She might have just been a total ditz, on prescription medication that made her silly or even hungover from the day before. Many times people act odd, and others assume drug use when it's not the case. "Her behavior was alarming' is another good way to put it, if they allow that.

Epsilon_Eridani315 reads

... about seeing all of those needle track marks.  

There was enough drug paraphilia laying around to come to the conclusion that she was an addict. I'm not talking about a roach clip here and there. I'm talking about spoons, needles and other shit that was laying around. That just freaked me out.

No assumptions were being made here. I was stating the facts.

Posted By: London Rayne
Re: I think 'under the influence of something more than alcohol' should be allowed... but the problem arises when we assume things that are not true. Unless you actually saw drugs, you don't know what she was on. She might have just been a total ditz, on prescription medication that made her silly or even hungover from the day before. Many times people act odd, and others assume drug use when it's not the case. "Her behavior was alarming' is another good way to put it, if they allow that.

just because it is a long time policy doesnt mean it shouldnt be revisited and considered for a change.

i know the policy, and don't agree with it.

Posted By: Epsilon_Eridani
... I had mentioned that the provider was a drug user.  
   
 Really, TER??  
   
 For many of us hobbyists, that's an important item to mention because not only for the safety of the hobbyist, but it does help us to determine if we should or should not schedule with that provider. Another good reason is that many of us hobbyists want to lower our risks of getting busted by the police.  
   
 What if the police were busting that provider for possession of illegal drugs and come flying in the room and find me with that provider. I can be busted for possession, whether or not I had any knowledge of the illegal drugs. I am doomed because TER refused to allow that piece of information in the reviews.  
   
 In that review, I had mentioned that this provider had track marks in various parts of her body. Majority of the marks were recent.  
   
 The provider in question had a lot of great reviews, but apparently, her lifestyle took a turn for the worst and that was never reflected in the reviews because TER does not allow it.  
   
 My suggestion?  
   
 Allow reviewers like myself to mention drug abuse to protect us hobbyists and reduce the risk of getting busted by the police.  
 

you need to hint at it in the review without actually coming out and mentioning it. Saw a provider who has MRSA and it got flagged, so i think i said something like 'always seems to have a bandage on her arm'  in the section of the review with the physical description.  so, track marks might be "lots of small bruises on her inner elbows" or something.  maybe you can get away with 'powder and pipe on sitting on dresser.'  

very recently i tried to alert admins of this very thing, asking if they'd like a link to a provider who had multiple recent arrests for possession, and they were completely disinterested.

it would be bad enough to get caught and charged for prostitution, but adding possession due to the provider having drugs and paraphernalia on this is a added risk that I don't need.  so all those ~"drug friendly" notes on ads are immediately weeded out.  

in any case, i fully support your policy change.

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