New York

Reformed, you are right but...
crankyasianman 18 Reviews 13932 reads
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we appreciate you informing us about the independents joining nyconfidential and charging us more. however, i think they learned their lesson. i do not think you need to continue to criticize them (unless they do it again). thanks and anymore scams discovered are appreciated.

REFORMED8520 reads

Whether you agree or disagree with my posts concerning NY Confidential, the results are clear. You guys will be benefitting from what I've started. Fortitude not only has removed the earlier posts but also my rebuttles to the two SHILLS Doobie Brother and Moleculo. In the end the members lose because EVERYTHING that I have said has been true whether you agree about the tone or not. That agency uses old independents, they admitted to it, they quote you at $600 over the phone, then post starting at $300 to TER members?. If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck, you know the rest. The "OWNER" PM' ed me trying to buy me off, I fwd'ed it to FORTITUDE when it happened, told him I'm not for sale. What benefits do you think SCRIPTFIXER(alias Doobie Brother)and Moleculo have received for their efforts? This probably will not make it to post because TER has clearly moved to Havanna, good luck to the guys who don't deserve to be ripped off.

fortitude9499 reads

“This is a moderated forum in which flames and messages outside the forum topic will be deleted. Please do not post messages that are simply mean, or meant to cause trouble for trouble's sake.”

The above quote is posted on top of every page, on every discussion board, on TER.  The reason many of your posts were deleted by me is because they were in fact flames and in fact, in my opinion (as well as others on this board) simply meant to cause trouble.  

When you started this whole thread with your discovery of something you objected to at NY Confidential, your post was timely, accurate and of value.  The whole episode then degenerated into a nasty, name calling affair with you simply ragging on and on way past the value of the original information.  And for what end, I have yet to figure out.  That said, "...meant to cause trouble for trouble's sake.”, seems as good an explanation as I can come up with.


Just to put an end to all of this BS by you, let me summarize, and share some stats with you and others in the TER community.  First the stats:

There are 17 providers from NY Confidential reviewed on TER.  There are a total of 58 reviews for these providers (I did not include any doubles sessions in these stats).  That’s an average of around 3.5 reviews per provider.  In fact they are all very good reviews.  And most of the reviewers have enough of a review history to legitimize their comments, unlike you, who has never posted even 1 review on TER.

NY Confidential has done nothing wrong in any of their posts.  This is not Havana, and in a free market economy like ours, it is their right to charge whatever they please.  If people elect to patronize them, it’s their business and not yours.  The key word in that last statement is “elect”, as in their own free will, and not your will.  The fact that you chose to consider them as you do is your prerogative, but you should learn to respect their viewpoint before they can even consider respecting yours.   And every other member of the TER community has that same prerogative.  Last I checked there are no 4 year olds here.  So there is no need on your part to teach them what you may perceive to be right (even if most don't agree) by constant repetition and cajoling.  Nor is it in anybody’s interest to hear you calling them names and insulting their intelligence.  We are each our own person and we can each make our own decisions.

If you continue to post flames and inflammatory messages, they will be deleted as they have in the past.  However, I’m sure I speak for everyone when I say that any constructive comments you would care to contribute to this board would be most welcome.

F.

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Your one legitimate post, on 1/1, exposing the two indie's at NYConfi is still up and was universally appreciated. But what NYConfi did wasn't the crime of the century and happens all the time. For example, right now you can see Bashia at Mona Lisa for $750 or Milan at American-Beauties for $2K. The same girl. Or you can see April at Mona Lisa or Avalon at American-Beauties for $1K. Or Brittany at Mona Lisa or Bella at Chez Brigitte...Penelope got $250 at some Jersey agency before she joined Mona Lisa and NYCovergirls (as Penny). Why aren't you ranting about these "scams"? There was really no need to viciously single-out NYConfi and drag it out for a week.

In any case, the satisfaction of alerting board members to the situation at NYConfi apparently wasn't enough for you and you've now become the Travis Bickle of this board ("you talking to me" to non-Scorcese fans), issuing death threats to me and scriptfixer (oh, boo-hoo!). Do yourself a favor and double your medication or just...oh why bother.

By the way, I've posted on this board for awhile now and have about a dozen reviews. If anyone, with first-hand experience with any of the topics, thinks I've ever shilled or misrepresented anything, please let all of us know. In your case, you never rebutted, or even responded, to anything I posted on the NYConfi topic, so I don't know what "rebuttles" (is that the French spelling REFORMED?) you're talking about. As far as what I've "received" for my efforts, it's nothing (I'm actually out of pocket $5.4K) except for five of the most memorable sexual experiences of my life.

mo

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No one's forcing anyone to patronize any business over another. And frankly, when Reformed learns how to spell, I'll take him more seriously... lol

we appreciate you informing us about the independents joining nyconfidential and charging us more. however, i think they learned their lesson. i do not think you need to continue to criticize them (unless they do it again). thanks and anymore scams discovered are appreciated.

So Sasha (Geisha Mermaid) of NYC is a guy and so is Sophia (thatmall)?  That's what you suggested in that last post when you said all escorts with that agency are really dudes. They look pretty feminine to me. Let's not bash ladies who can't speak for themselves nor make accusations that can't be supported. We appreciate you stating what you say happened and I appreciate TER running it and let the people decide for themselves but on the web, we run of the risk of some unknown popping up and posting something that is a blatant lie in an attempt to sabotage a girl's rep or her business. Guys say stuff all the time on this board that hold absoluately no truth and people surprisingly believe them with no facts in place.

Why would one woman work for 3 different agencies with different names? That seems really dishonest. What if the guy has seen her before under another name? He'll never know until he sees her in person and then he just booked someone he already saw. So basically they are recycling the same people again and again with different web sites or names? What's the point of that? You would think the agency wouldn't want to get the rep of booking out the same girl who's also working for 12 other agencies in town servicing the same client but it's probably happening and that's why TER is essential.

I know men enjoy variety and if I were a man sitting at home and looking for company, it would suck to call for a girl and unknowingly get someone you already saw under a different name.

HB



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You seem to have misunderstood my post "ok, ok, I confess..." from yesterday that Fortitude deleted as he explains above. In it, I made fun of myself (I said I was really a shill, that I was actually gay, etc.) and made fun of my friends at NYConfi (they are a total fraud, the escorts are really Jason and Ted in drag, Mona secretly videotapes the sessions, they blackmail their customers to get the good reviews, etc.).  I also took a couple of shots at REFORMED who, as Fortitude also noted above, has threatened me and scriptfixer, but, if my belittling him doesn't belong on this board anymore then, hey, I can take a joke!

So, as far as the girls being guys, I was just being silly. The girls at NYConfi that I've met are terrific and Sophia, who I haven't, appears to be very hot: in fact, scriptfixer just sent me a rave review of her (he's seen her at least a dozen times in LA) and highly recommends her.

As far as girls working at different agencies under different names, they are trying to maximize their exposure and tap into different markets. Gloria, who you could see at Mona Lisa for $600, once got $14K for an overnighter through Fleur de Elite. That is motivation enough for anybody. As I've said before, do your homework and comparison shop, then hope for the best!

mo

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