Suggestion and Policy

This has come up on this board many times before.
perfectstorm 19 Reviews 435 reads
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I have suggested TER adopting something more in line with the P411 descriptions:
Skinny
Slender
Athletic
Muscular
Average
Curvy
Voluptuous
BBW
Super-BBW

Some of TER descriptions are just silly (baby fat? On a 40 year old? Other? WTF is other?) Some are just rude. (very fat? Flabby?) I think the p411 descriptions are better

I mean, can we please get some "full-Figured", "chubby", or "bbw" up in here? Please?

"Baby fat," "flabby", "heavy" and "very fat."  

Why are none of those applicable?

...the existing ones you mentioned?  Instead of adding additional body type descriptions, perhaps the ones mentioned by the OP could replace the existing descriptions.

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GaGambler493 reads

but even I have to admit, there could be much better choices than the ones we have now.

Even a non PC guy like me could get behind "curvy" or "voluptuous" as opposed to "baby fat" or "heavy" and I would be ok if "thin" and "skinny" were merged into one, especially as one mans "thin" is another mans "skinny"

Athletic is also one of those terms that can mean anything from a lithe, dancer type, to a member of the East German weight lifting team. I usually don't have a clue what the reviewer actually means by that term until I either see the providers pics, or the provider myself in person.

I hate the word skinny
I wear size extra small or small but I am well defined
I am a fucking athlete
That would be my description

Its not a matter of being "politically correct" but the inclusion of terms that more accurately describe the body type of large ATTRACTIVE ladies in a positive  light. From the words provided to describe above average in size - it must be assumed that all these ladies in this category are unattractive when compared to slender or petite ladies. It is true that not all large ladies are attractive just as all slender or petite ladies are attractive. A greater effort needs to be put forth to not put ALL large women in the same category. Efforts are made to NOT to place other ladies into a single category.

That[s the main idea - all 4 descriptions are negative. FIRM, full-figured is a POSITIVE attribute. Personally, I prefer full-figure ladies who have good body tone or are firm. Until a positive term to describe BBWs is included as an option, I shall check "other" when describing body type and go to great lengths to describe in my reviews why I find them attractive.

I just don't see a need on a board that talks about jizz shots to the face in reviews to make PC changes to references to a gals waistline.

Wtf does BBW even mean? The second "B" stands for beautiful, right? Well, it isn't an issue of beauty at all, it's a weight/size descriptor.

If a guy gives her a 3 for looks, can he really choose BBW for her weight? That doesn't seem to make sense. If we are going to make changes, why not just have the guys give an approx weight range, like there is in other categories like height and age?

Something like:

1) under 100lbs
2) 100-115
3) 116-130
4) 131-150
5) 151-170
6) 170-199
7) 200+

No system would be perfect but that would make more sense than PC shit like "BBW."

...to "own" their weight and re-brand their image.  As such, it should not be a category on TER because it is merely spin and not a valid description.

That's exactly what PC is, BP.  It's coming up with different terminology for something to make low self esteem types feel better about themselves.  

And throwing the word "beautiful" in there is just icing on the PC cake. Lol

But can you honestly say that you can look at a person, any person, and tell them how much they weigh within 20lbs?  

I mean, if you can, congrats.  

What I'm asking for is a standardization for this section of the sex industry, like there is in porn. BBW and SSBBW and Chubby porn are all categories, and they're categories that most tend to understand. This doesn't have anything to do with political correctness; I've referred to myself as "fat" all over the place, but plain ol' "fat" isn't an option here.

Its not a matter of being "Politically Correct" but being "ACCURATE" in the description of body type. In general black and white women of the same age, weight, and height have noticeable different physiques (contours). The butts and thighs of black women are more pronounced than women of any other race and in terms of weight and "firmness". Which is why black women have "round" , firm booties and white women have "flat"," broad" ," soft" booties. The term "Firm, Full-figured" should be one of the descriptive terms used to "large" women who are not "flabby" or have baby fat.

I have suggested TER adopting something more in line with the P411 descriptions:
Skinny
Slender
Athletic
Muscular
Average
Curvy
Voluptuous
BBW
Super-BBW

Some of TER descriptions are just silly (baby fat? On a 40 year old? Other? WTF is other?) Some are just rude. (very fat? Flabby?) I think the p411 descriptions are better

I refer to myself as a "fat" quite regularly.

The problem is similar to what perfect storm said up there.  I'm not a baby.  I'm 30.  "baby fat" doesn't refer to me.  Plus, what the hell does baby fat even mean?  "Flabby" doesn't necessarily describe things too well either.  Flabby where? All over? My ankles? My belly? My thighs? I mean come on.  

We all know how much some dudes completely loathe the idea of fucking a fat girl.  Trust me.  And a lot of you might not find a thing about me or other fat, chubby, or big women  "beautiful", but "bbw" and "ssbbw" are standard terms used throughout the sex industry to describe fat and very fat women.  Those terms are easily recognizable, and people know what the hell they mean.  Please, someone tell me what the standard definition for "baby fat" is, and when its applicable to be listed as such

...no idea what baby fat was supposed to mean. I imagined it to mean she had a bit of a tummy. (Not a roll.) Somewhere on here it's been discussed and I found that's what other guys thought too.  

I think the terms TER uses now need to be changed. I like the P411 terms perfectstorm posted.

Who wants to be called "flabby" or VERY FAT lmao

Seriously?

Spring cleaning should be in the works here.....

 
Skinny  
Slender  
Athletic  
Muscular  
Average  
Curvy  
Voluptuous  
BBW  
Super-BBW  

I think this list rocks

...rude to heavy women by using "flabby" and "very fat" then thin women should be treated the same way.

GaGambler422 reads

If we are going to be flattering, how about slim or slender for "non fat" women?

I have already agreed that full figured or voluptuous would be better terms for larger women, but I still think that flabby, although it's not very flattering, is still an accurate description for women of any size who have "let themselves go" and should remain.

I am also ok with the idea by PS, which suggests we adopt P411 descriptive labels, which while not perfect, are a huge improvement over what we have here now.

Same terms can mean totally different things to two people brought up in the same culture but decades apart.  In my Dad's time a fag was a cigarette, in my time it was an insult to homosexuals, today's kids view it as an insult to loud bikers from South Park.  Yeah, that's a reach if you don't watch South Park, so let's put it into hobby terms:

Baby fat is a term I associate with a woman who's given birth and still has some of the maternity weight.  Other guys look at it and think of a chubby girl with a few extra pounds.  Other guys look at it and think of some other body type.
Yet this term is the only one TER recognizes for what I'd consider a curvy woman.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and we have to agree on common definitions in order to describe our views to someone else.  My beauty is not yours, but if we agree on using "baby fat" then I can live with it.  Political correctness aside, just pick one that everyone can handle and move on

I don't take offense to any of the size listings that are up now, but I do think there's some confusing overlap.  

For example, I can't decide if I'm thin, average, or athletic. I don't feel like a twig, I'm in shape but I have some curves. But, I certainly don't feel like I look like a real athlete when all I'm rocking is a four pack vs some of the body building or martial arts ladies that are here who are truly athletic. So, I go with average, which could be accurate if you're looking at what someone is supposed to weigh, but I think we can all agree I am not the "average" American woman.  

Then, what really is the difference between chubby and babyfat? My personal definition is that they're both a little overweight, but if you search those criteria, everyone's obviously got their own ideas. Not to mention, this site is supposed to be for the guys. Most don't consider themselves "chubby chasers". They just like a woman with some meat on her bones instead of someone they feel they're going to snap like a twig.  

This isn't a PC thing, it's a maximizing the use of TER as a search engine for both providers and clients thing. If the categories aren't clear, then people aren't going to find all they're looking for.  

I would propose:
Petite (short and small)
Amazon (tall and solid)
Thin/slender
Some cushion (for the pushin) or average
Small BBW  
BBW

Even if you think BBW is just sickeningly PC, it is a commonly used marketing and search term. If that's what the people interested in it and the ones providing it are calling it, you might as well let it be easy to find each other.

The body type description should focus on of the " firmness" or "body tone" as opposed to "body fat" which most likely refers to being :flabby".  Would suggest using the term "firm, full-figure" to indicate the person is above average in terms of body size, BUT, considered to be physically fit as opposed to " flabby". This would be a much more accurate description of AA women whose physiques/body contours are significantly different those of women of other racial groups. Doubt that this will happen because the primary "judges" are white guys who use their standards of what is attractive which compares how other women stack up to how they compare to white women. Whenever I submit a review on large AA women, the choices given by TER to describe her physically is difficult because none of the option are even close to giving a fair description of her.

Support the inclusion of the term "FIRM, Full-figured" to describe body shape. For BBWs body "firmness" or "Body "Tone" is a more  ACCURATE  indication of how "attractive" the lady is thought to be. "Flabby" , "Baby Fat", and "Chubby" are generally viewed as negatives;  on the other hand, Good body tone is always perceived as a positive attribute regardless of body size (slim, skinny, average, or large).

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