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LilyJune See my TER Reviews 3371 reads
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JP, It doesn't surprise me that you read between the lines.  There is often quite a bit between yours to look for.  

Thanks for the compliments.  I wasn't expecting to see a reference to my site here and it made me feel good.  I'm grateful for guys like you who really read that shit. ;)

I wish I had more time and energy to spend on my website as I had grand plans for it.  My problem is that I swing wildly back and forth about the idea of having a website at all.  I realize it's a marketing tool but the "public like a frog" aspect bothers me.  My ambivalence has kept my site from progressing.

It's really hard to write a bio. Everytime I've tried I've become bogged down with concerns about sounding too pretentious.  I wish I could express myself with Emma's wit and Danielle's elegance and have to admit that throwing my poetry and art up is a bit lazy and does not reflect the careful effort of some of my colleagues.  It doesn't help that I HATE "spell check" programs and don't always consult my Oxford Style Dictionary.  Ultimately, though my website says enough  about me that I'm content with the great guys it attracts.

Thanks Danielle for posting this topic.  The responses here have given me some insight.

LJ

I'm nobody! Who are you?
Are you nobody too?
Then there's a pair of us
Don't tell!  They'd advertise- you know!

How dreary to be somebody!
How public like a frog
To tell one's name the livelong June
To an admiring bog!  -Emily Dickinson-

...when we go through all the effort to put one up, do you ever read our bios? I mean are you interested in our history at all? or we wasting our time? I have had so little precious few clients tell me they read my bio, that it brought me to this question. Is it a waste of time and webspace, or do some of you read them at least?

Dani

Dani,

If a woman goes to the trouble of writing a bio and putting it on her website, of course I read it.  I want to know as much about you as possible.  Also, I will search the discussion boards to read any posts you have made.  The more a client knows about you, the better the experience will be for each of us.

Lex Luethor4572 reads

I'll read the bio, read your old posts, anxiously look for new posts, etc. I want to feel like a know you (just a bit) before we meet.

For the same reason, I tend to shy away from providers who's intial response to my introductory email is too terse. I know, I know -- you are get TONS of email and are very busy...but some ladies to find the time to reply with a nice "Hello Lex" email, and that makes all the difference to me. I don't need a repeat of your bio, by any means, but something more than...

"Call me."

... is a nice touch.

Dani,
I can't agree more.  I read the bio's when I'm doing my initial research to make a selection for entertainment choice and then I'll go back and re-read the bio several times before the date.  I want as much information as possible to help "click" with my new friend.  Yes, I'll read her recent reviews as well.

Mainly because I enjoy a bit of conversation in my encounters.  However, if a man is going ot see you only for an hour, he is not there for conversation.  Therefore, I can't say that bio's are the most important thing to me when seeing a provider but I will read them.

Now, here's a suggestion to see how many honest answers you received to your inquiry.  Read the reviews and profiles of the ladies that the men who have responded to your question and see what percentage of the ladies have profiles on their sites.  I'm guessing the percentage will be low mainly because not too many ladies have extensive bios on their sites.  I think I have only seen a handful of ladies with extensive bios and I can't say it was the deciding factor to see them.

This is a great question. On my bio page, there is not very much info, I did not know what to write there really. What other stuff can you add besides Measurements, Age, Ethnicity and all that? I am so clueless about the bio page.

Someone who emailed me recently wrote a very nice email but mentioned that my bio page was not what they were looking for, and surprised them. I don't get it.

I am gonna read all the responses here and see what everyone thinks.  

Happy New Year!

:) Sara

I look at the pics first and if I'm still interested I read the bio.
Incidentally,
I read your bio. Might have to plan a Vegas trip soon!

jackvance3580 reads

about her.

It's telling me that I don't want to see her.

Just be yourself in your bio.  It makes for a better encounter for both people.

I've read some bios are so general that the person that it really doesn't give you a whole lot of insight about the person. Other bios are very informative. After reading them, you feel like you've known them very well.

I guess it depends on what the reader is looking for in a provider. Some guys prefer to look for a provider whom they can make an ATF out of (those that simply loathe the idea of going through the uncertainty), others simply won't see a provider more than once, no matter how good she is (those that want varieties). My take is the former is more likely to read your bio.

Furthermore, few providers are willing to share too much personal info about themselves on a website.Privacy thing I guess. Many simply "throw" one in there just because everyone else does it in their website.

I think that bios are interesting, if not for the information, at least as an indication of how the escort thinks.

I enjoy bios with subtle humor. Somewhere I read a bio with this quote "Here is a bit of a backdrop for this short-time formality, to give you a general pretence of me." In the context of the fantasy that escorts provide, I enjoyed the irony of that statement.

I agree with all of the above comments. If Im inerested in meeting a girl I want to know what she is like and how she thinks. A well written bio(and some are very well written)is very helpful to me.

i agree w/all the posts so far.  The bios help especially since i favor independents who have some interests, etc.

BigScrotum3627 reads

on a 1st meeting. Do you swallow? Do you do Greek??  MSOG???  I think some of these guys are not telling the truth.

CarlaBrazil3642 reads

If a client don't know a thing about me as person I prefer to not see them. I think if you are going to spend time with someone you have never see before you need to know about their personality.

Carla Brazil

it's not the first thing I look at.  In my experience sometimes it accurately reflects the providers personality...and sometimes it doesn't.

Wouldn't you prefer to see someone who is being honest(grin)?

Pics first..followed by a check of the donation page.  Next is a little research...reviews...board posts.  If I'm still curious, I'll check out the faq and bio before communicating.  At this point I would say some bio's have convinced me NOT to go further so maybe I should read them first.

CarlaBrazil2217 reads

Not saying it should be the first thing you look at but the second. My Bio tells a lot about myself and if you don't read it maybe you wouldn't enjoy my type of personality and ended up having a bad time.

...ladies and gentlemen there goes your answer in a nutshell (yes pun intended).

Where we go in life depends largely on how we choose to get there... bees with honey my dear, bees with honey...

Dani

danielle, I can feel your frustration LOL

The only reason I have such an extensive website is for that reason.. I figure if they are serious and really want to see me they will go thru all the reading.

I am a web designer and as well market sites.. I always check trackers on servers etc..  ( where traffic is coming from) It is general rule.. People look for location and price only.. in our business.... pictures/ price only... Of course this isnt all people. Id say 7 out of ten, look for those two things first off..



Well, that sounds reasonable... for most of us, if the price is out of range or the lady doesn't live in out part of the country, the rest of the information becomes moot.

Although personally I enjoy reviewing the web sites just so I can dream of the places I'll never get to... kind of like the Travel Channel.

I get my dates commenting on my bio all the time and the FA&Q's
I like to know a man has done his research on me and has chosen me to spend his time with me.  When I know he has read all my website all that does to me is make me so relaxed and just want to please my date even more.  


And do they get pleased!!

RED

After looking at your website, I have to say your bio is pretty, but a little hard to read - - even on a good sized screen, the font is a little small, and script tends to be hard to read. That may be why they don't read yours in particular.

I'd suggest either increasing the size of the font or switching to a more readable one. There must be a font around that is easy to read but still projects that elegant style of yours.

BTW - looking at your website and your reviews, I sure wish you lived closer to the Southeast!!

Noldi

Just my preference expressed here, but it is important to me to have a chance to know something about a lady before I decide whether or not to make an appointment. Who is she, what does she believe in, how does she view herself, what is her goal in relation to a customer. Those are some of the things I draw from the better reviews - i.e., those that give me more than "then we did this...she did that... I licked this... WOW". Maybe it's because I'm older than most guys here - I suspect - but my hobbying is about MUCH more than getting off. I want intelligence, personality, character, tenderness, sensitivity, etc., etc. So I think writing and posting bios is time well spent. And I wholeheartedly agree with those ladies who have said that they are not especially interested in seeing guys who aren't willing to invest the time in getting to know them before they see them. I remember a very smart lady telling me one day: "I want a guy who wants to get into my head, before he gets into my pants"
All offered IMHO, sincerly

Dani-I read them.  They can make a difference if often making me decide NOT to see a provider (such as too many instructions as to what NOT to do).  As one other person stated, the font you used for you bio is a bit hard to read for us gents over 45!  This stated, pictures are important.  
Some providers have very witty bios that make me interested in seeing them even if the pictures are not as convinving.  But if you see my reviews, in most cases, I prefer to chat for awhile and get to know the person.  Some bios to appear 'canned' and so general as to cause me to skip reading them after a line or two.

Therefore, why are so many of them pretentious, poorly written, badly presented and riddled with spelling and grammatical errors?  How hard is it to run the text through a spell checker and proof read the copy?  

How can any women claim to be the (ubiquitous) upscale/elite/classy companion for executive gentlemen when the copy on the website would shame a third grader?

Having said this, the people in glass houses principle will assert itself and I can absolutely g'tee that, despite being proof read to death, there will be a howler lurking someone in my website.

criticizing the archetectural merits of the Parthenon.  

You are right, and God knows I am known as being a spelling Nazi myself (which my remote keyboard just loves to wreak havoc upon), but I think you overestimate the audience.  I have seen more than a few executives who require an exec sec to correct their spelling, fix their appearance, remind them of their wife's birthday, etc.  As far as pretentious...conjure up an image of Donald Trump walking by the cheering hordes of onlookers behind chain link fences (oh, the unwashed masses).

No one said a 125/up IQ was required to be an escort...or an executive.  However, those with them do stand out in some manner...like you, you curmudgeon from Down Under. :)

...criticizing the archetectural merits of the Parthenon...

I'm anal about spelling myself, and admit I make my fair share of mistakes in any event, so with tongue planted firmly in cheek as I stiffly salute the Spelling Nazi....shouldn't that be "architectural"?

I will leave my boo boo up there for all to see.

if I was handing over sensitive personal information I would want to know that the recipient was smart enough to keep it safe. A poorly put together website indicates a sloppy, disorganised approach and a lack of pride in your work. You don't have to be a genius to run a spellchecker. I would be concerned that a woman who was slack enough to skip this important step is just as likely to leave my details sitting on the screen of a terminal in an airport lounge or other public internet point.

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you misspelled "solely"!

Neener neener!

Happy New Year, cutie. :)

Now about that "archetectural" merit......

As I said, people in glass houses....

The bottom line is, no matter how fabulous a speller, writer or whatever you think you are, it can happen to the best of us - so proof, proof and proof read again.

I rest my case, having provided my own wonderful proof as to everyone's ability to insert foot.

Now that that's done, for some reason, I am envisioning a game of naked Scrabble with you, Em. :P

Thanks for playing along. :)

I-DID-da-ho3299 reads

Don't know about Downunder, but in the US, proper grammar in your opening sentence would have been "If I were..."

she is from Down Under.  Downunder is a type of cold weather clothing. :P

Turkana4067 reads

"...I can absolutely g'tee that, despite being proof read to death, there will be a howler lurking someone in my website."

Pray tell, my dear, who?  Or is the someone a lurker howling?


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Lex Luethor4567 reads

A 3rd grade Australian/British education is roughly equivalent to a 12th grade education in the US, so Emma's insult is not as nasty as it might seem.

:)

-- Modified on 1/1/2005 8:27:32 AM

Actually I think we are only a year or two ahead down here.  An observation perhaps supported by the release of the recent OECD Report on the Programme for International Student Assessment.  In this global assessment of mathematical skills the US is down the bottom end of the curve sandwhiched between Latvia and Portugal.  It is below the OECD average.  The really interesting observation is that the US students felt the most confident overall about their mathematical ability.  

This state of mind is generally referred to as hubris.

Lex Luethor2587 reads

It's part of the whole arch super villain thing.

I read any and all information I can find. I want to learn as much as possible prior to meeting. One to see if she is worth my time and two the more you already know the better we can each serve one another. Always looking for that mental connection which enhances the time spent.

For me, the bio is as important as the pics. All things being equal, an interesting person will trump a hot body any day. The bio gives me some insight into who I might be spending time with.

Danielle,

I think I addressed this a while back. You should create a page that attracts who you want to see. A page with an interesting Bio page and other relevant information might attract a certian kind of client. A page filled with pictures of you doing the dishes will attract another. (or maybe the same, lol)

When the page is built with an honset representation of who you are, the men will be happier and you will be happier.

Unless you are a great actress or like fooling yourself, be yourself.

cranky yanker3316 reads

the bio on your site has font style and size that makes it extremely difficult to read!

I'll even read your tiny little font 'cause that's how much I want to know what's in your head.  
A mind's a terrible thing to waste...particularly sexually.

Emma's site is grand because of what you are able to glean about her humor, politics and kink level.  Not just Bio but her question page right down to the captions on her photos.

Lily June's poetry on her site lets you have a wee bit of insight into her creative brain.  Essential for me to book a date.  Her links offer a nice view of her artistic side as well.

A well thought out bio, humor, a sense of fun (or play or what-have-you) goes farther with me than the photos.  And I love photos.  I'm finding I book a date depending on the communication skills the lady has in emails, phone or website.


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...a true gentleman and scholors' mind!

I like your answer best so far!

Dani

JP, It doesn't surprise me that you read between the lines.  There is often quite a bit between yours to look for.  

Thanks for the compliments.  I wasn't expecting to see a reference to my site here and it made me feel good.  I'm grateful for guys like you who really read that shit. ;)

I wish I had more time and energy to spend on my website as I had grand plans for it.  My problem is that I swing wildly back and forth about the idea of having a website at all.  I realize it's a marketing tool but the "public like a frog" aspect bothers me.  My ambivalence has kept my site from progressing.

It's really hard to write a bio. Everytime I've tried I've become bogged down with concerns about sounding too pretentious.  I wish I could express myself with Emma's wit and Danielle's elegance and have to admit that throwing my poetry and art up is a bit lazy and does not reflect the careful effort of some of my colleagues.  It doesn't help that I HATE "spell check" programs and don't always consult my Oxford Style Dictionary.  Ultimately, though my website says enough  about me that I'm content with the great guys it attracts.

Thanks Danielle for posting this topic.  The responses here have given me some insight.

LJ

I'm nobody! Who are you?
Are you nobody too?
Then there's a pair of us
Don't tell!  They'd advertise- you know!

How dreary to be somebody!
How public like a frog
To tell one's name the livelong June
To an admiring bog!  -Emily Dickinson-

Regarding your website.

Maybe think of your website as a scrapbook for a stranger instead of a marketing tool.  It may make it more fun.

Under "bio" put the Emily Dickenson poem and the boys will get all they need to know.

Or I'll write your bio for you.
I'd love the research aspect!

A kiss to you, wise and gentle public frog!  What a princess you become!

me. There are some ladies that have excellent websites that provide all the information that I need to make a decision, BIOs or not. Worse than BIOs are the sites that look like the first Infiniti commercials, where stuff that is completely unrelated to the business at hand crams the site.

I've done provider web sites for 3 years and this is what guys are look at in this order:

1) What you look like.
2) How much - donations/rates.
3) Where you are located.
4) How to contact you.

Nevertheless, bios are important. Not only is it a insight into your personality, it can also help a perspective client contact or move on.

I don't think there is a guy on here who said that the bio was so important that it would cause him to not care about the provider's pics.  I think that most guys would say that the pics are the "most important" part of of a lady's site.  However, I would think and hope that most women in this business are "hot", given the nature of the business, so it is the variables...like bios, non-titillating pictures, style of writing, personal preferences, Zodiac signs, favorite colors, and hors d'oeuvres...that will help MANY men decide on a specific lady from a group of many that he finds attractive.

Of course, there are plenty of men in the world who stop at looks only, but thankfully, I don't know any men like that myself.

I think the Bio is great just to add to the other posts some hunor or wit in it is nice.  Try to give a little sense of yourself is important believe it or not we are interested in you for more than your looks.  Though I do have to admit I look at the pictures first then read the bio.  Also I think direct email and phone calls tell me the most about a provider.  Good luck

if they are brief, manageable and articulate. It's more important to me than pictures.

I think the FAQ page tells more about the lady than the bio most times...sometimes the bio on her web site is like the bio under the centerfold of a nudie magazine(means virtually nothing) but the FAQ page tells you what she REALLY thinks is important you know ahead of time

BTW I realize just going by the responses from providers in this thread some of you DO give a lot of thought to your bio page but I still say in any random escort site I'd believe what the FAQ page says before I swallow entirely the bio page

What I like to do to get an idea of whether I'd like her or not is if she has an ENTER page with a link to somewhere else if supposedly the person got there by accident...if THAT link sends you somewhere silly I think she probably has a good sense of humor(if you click it you may end up at a wide range of places from a Disney site to a Fundamental religion site...you never know)

BILL183563667 reads

Probably a bit shallow on my part but first ther has to be an attraction, 2nd thing I look at is rate, 3rd would be availabity and proximity and last would be bio if everything else worked.

That being said an interesting website is also a big plus to me as it can capture my attention and curiosity. I like creative minds and when a website differentiates itself from the norm I'm more likely to spend a little more time there.

One other thing, the last of all my objectives would be to find someone that is good at spelling or grammar nor would I be concerned with the possibility of that person being sloppy with information as one has absolutely nothing to do with the other.

I know providers don't want to give too much away about themselves, compromising their secret identities perhaps, but many of them don't have the writing skills to entice a man with just enough details and a lot of mystery, or they can but are unwilling to make that effort.  

There was one provider I had the pleasure to meet this year who just had incredible stories about her life-- but her website bio was so terse, you could never tell.  Her only listed bio accomplishment was graduating magna cum laud, but she never said in what or where.  So, her being in her 40s, and the only detail of accomplishments was one at least two, maybe three decades before.  Had I not read her postings otherwise, I would have never known from the website how interesting she was.  

I've usually been disappointed on providers' websites when I've turned to the bio-page.

Now, that having been said, any providers want to hire a freelance-ghost bio writer?  

/Zin

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I always read the bios and everything else that give me a sense of the person. The pictures rarely match the woman in person but can give some idea of the personality. If all I see are pics and rates, I am rarely interested. I must feel that the comfort level will be good.

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