I say ole' chap...
The short answer is that a provider's time is money...
and thus the dinner time period is still work ;particularly if you are a boring, humorless clod and/or require "under the table" erotica.
On the other hand, that's not to say if you are either a charming,witty,funny, and jolly nice fellow that the provider won't throw the clock out the window just to see time fly but
partake of some post shagging din-din and merriment.
Of course...YMMV(Your mileage may vary)or as we say across the pond after a splendid shag tryst...You made Madam'Vitalized!
Tally-Ho!
...but I would llike a perspective.
Why do providers charge so much extra to have a dinner date tacked on to playtime?
I mean, you're getting a free meal, and, more importantly, you would have had to eat *anyway*, and on your own time and dime if not for the client.
Or is the answer "because they can?" 
on the meal and the client. The meal can stretch on forever, the client can be boring as wood. Wouldn't you want to get paid?
lol you should get extra for "boring"
I say ole' chap...
The short answer is that a provider's time is money...
and thus the dinner time period is still work ;particularly if you are a boring, humorless clod and/or require "under the table" erotica.
On the other hand, that's not to say if you are either a charming,witty,funny, and jolly nice fellow that the provider won't throw the clock out the window just to see time fly but
partake of some post shagging din-din and merriment.
Of course...YMMV(Your mileage may vary)or as we say across the pond after a splendid shag tryst...You made Madam'Vitalized!
Tally-Ho!
Nothing like boinking with Vim,Vigor, and Vitality!...
By golly...
I love those V words when they're put together almost as much as I love to boink.
Alright...not quite almost...lol
Cheers!
for 2 hours but told her we would go to dinner first. I let the evening unfold on its own. Dinner was over 2 hours and when the bill arrived, she looked at me and offered a nightcap at her place. I said something like "...I am afraid that I would need to go to an automatic teller first as I was a bit low on cash." Her response was that all I needed was enough cash to get home with and not to worry as she had nothing planned afterwards. Now, our conversation was lively, politics, humor, ribald jokes and much flirting. This was the only time I tried this and I was hoping for this outcome but NOT counting on it. Definitely as YMMV situation but I have to admit I was more in the mood for conversation first. Anyhow, an attractive and conversant dinner companion is a real thrill and then it is up to you. In some ways, it is an interesting wrinkle on the hobbiest-provider equation as it makes the nightcap seem like a GFE.
An American Werewolf in London?
HOWL!
Cheers!
Lucky for her it was not a full moon! Happy 2005 VonRyan.
I always wondered about that myself. So many times after an "afternoon delight" I've wanted to ask the lady if she wanted to grab a bite to eat before her next client, but I never have for fear it would seem I was trying to get a discounted "lunch date". But that's not it at all: I just figured if she didn't have anything else pending it might be a way for both of to kill some time.
I mean the illusion that she really does enjoy spending time with you.
As you point out, she would have had to eat on her own time anyway, so the "time is money" point of view really doesn't work. Might take a bit more time for a restaurant meal than a home meal, but not that much more.
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off the clock. But I had no expectations. The subject of food comes up rather naturally, don't you think? I value their advice on local eateries.
and we ask you to pay for our time and companionship. The conversation during a meal date can really add some great spice to dessert. Footsies under the table, a bra strap that slips, a twinkle in the eye, watching her slither off to the ladies room and knowing as she walks back that she is coming to sit next to *you*... Some gents love the game of seduction, it's not all about the food. Though for many of us food IS seduction, sensual, aromatic, texture, flavor, oral pleasure.
Would we eat anyways? Yes, though I can eat a meal of fruit and cheese in twenty minutes or less. Going to a restaurant, parking, eating, returning to the incall... upwards of two hours.
As to the post below saying that it destroys the fantasy, that's not really fair. If your lawyer billed for talking biz over a meal would you think he/she did not like to spend time with you? I know that this is a highly personalized business, though your time is being spent with a professional... all parties benefit from keeping this in mind and honoring that basic premise of your relationship.
Take a second look at the meal date rates - most of us ladies discount those appointments because we DO love to spend extra time with you.
xoxo,
Sola
PS -
A funny thing I've noticed... the few times I have made special rate arrangements, offered extra time, meals off the clock, etc, etc... these are the same gents who seem to lose track of reality, who became overly attached, or who began taking me for granted. It is rarely worth it.
I've had many off the clock dinner dates where the men want to take advantage of your time. Its those men that make it bad for other's.
And another issue that I have is when you discount a gentleman on price wise.
Case in point: a gentleman friend that I had ONLY seen once mind you, wrote to me saying that he was broke..yahdah yahdah yahday.. and I done the fair thing to drop his 1 hour rate to 1 bill. But I told him that to be fair and partial to my other gentleman friends that I may see that day, for him to make sure that he is aware that it is just for the hour (I do need an hour to myself to clean, pick up the room, etc) and to plan accordingly.
He the had some nerve to send me an email me saying that he was hurt, that I may not allow him extra time, for the 1 bill should be enough to cover the 1 hour and plus extra time, for he THOUGHT that we had a special relationship????????? I have men who have been seeing me for years, that I dropped their rates for, for it was the right thing to do, and I consider that a special arrangement. But for someone who had only seen me once, and IS getting a discounted rate, hint around asking for more given time than what he is paying for: HONEYCHILE-PUH-LEASE.
Yes, I wrote him back telling him that if he wasn't happy with just the hour discounted rate, then I would be happy to stop seeing him and give it to someone else. I have yet to hear back from him, and to be honest, I am relieved. It's always those type of men that make it bad for those who are sincere and honest.
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TER is full of men who think this way about particular providers. It is unfortunate that they think this way. A professional and ethical provider will set them straight in a gentle but firm way, and will not let monetary considerations become an excuse for not doing so.
(Not implying that you personally have done anything unethical).
-- Modified on 1/2/2005 8:41:33 PM
If you really want the fun/getting to know you/intamacy of a leisurely meal & conversation, I recommend an overnight. Then you have enough time for all sorts of fun.
I thoroughly enjoy dining with my clients, as well as our play time together. Above posts refering to charging for time versus services rendered are accurate in my opinon.
However, for me it is also a matter of energy. I am myself while with a client as much as possible. But, I am also the best version of myself; energetic, playful, witty. The time, including a bite to eat, in between clients is downtime for me. I use it to regroup and collect myself, so that I can be refreshed and engaged for the next client. Essentially, although fun, being with a client is work. Therefore, if I am working, I would like to be paid.