My personal painful experience is that a friendship with a provider is ephemeral. Even if she calls you a friend, she can change her mind overnight to suit her personal or business interests. I have avoided friendships with providers since that bad experience.
with a provider. I wanted to how friendships get started between hobbiest and providers.I've had no luck with civi woman at all.
Don't try. If it is going to happen it will happen. As in most friendships, you need something in common first..OUTSIDE of the hobby.
Just a word of warning though. Just be careful how far you let that freidnship go. I've heard way too many stories on these boards.
Good luck!!
Katt
but you must understand...
as a very dear friend of mine, who is a provider, once told me,
" there are 2 parts to these relationships, one business, and one not. You MUST be able to accept both, and not allow the "business part" to effect the non business part".
I have several ladies who I have seen "on business" who I have cultivated a deep friendship with.
We know the limitations and restrictions of this type of relationship, but we meet "off the clock" and talk and have lunch every few weeks.
As one stated, " I am her friend, her confidant, her counselor."
We both get what we need and want out of the friendship. Ironically, the physical part has taken a back seat to the mental and emotional part, and neither one of us seems to mind. We just enjoy the times we get together.
So, yes, it is possible to be friends with a provider.
As long as you both understand the limitations and potential pitfalls.
Just my opinion...
B
A friendship can develope if common interests or needs are shared. This is true in or out of the hobby. I never noticed a lack of civvie women who wanted to be "Friends" (this is how civvie women go to movies, dinners, shows, travel, etc on YOUR money and never give up the Pussy). You sir have identified and value the higher ethic found in Providers and now you wish to offer your friendship to them rather than to the lieing, hypocrits that are Civvie women. I salute you!
IAATM
Cm.
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Meet the right women, CM.
"Yahoo personals" "American Singles" Oh! here is a promising new site... Fatuglysinglemomsonwelfare.com
Excuse me MrSD while I remove the "poker" from the fire and shove it in my eye.
BTW- Bro' it's Cm not CM
Blind crippled or crazy it's AATM
Cm.
Hmm, here's a thought... People DO exist outside of the realm of the internet. If you have a hard time meeting the kind of women you like, there comes a certain point where you have to acknowledge that maybe its YOU and not THEM.
in the meantime, you could try shallowmanlookingforsupermodels.com
Well said brohter...and well put. Bravo! The truth comes out and is spoken with class.....
Like most have stated, common interests are the starting point. I have a few very good friends who are providers and in this I am fortunate. In my experience these friendships are extremely fragile in every aspect and can become uncomfortable very easily, much more so than civi friendships due to the circumstances that they begun under. I totally wrecked the best friendship I ever had with a provider/friend about a year ago because I made just one statement that was taken out of context which was done due to my lack of thought prior to the incident.
Treat these relationships with more conscience effort than any other because of the trust that is given to us and they will be unique and wonderful - to this day I regret my lack of attention and the unnecessary discomfort I caused another.
Friendships start just like anywhere else. Common interests, high trust level, respect, honesty, enjoy each other's company, etc. But it has to happen naturally and with a good understanding of where it may or may not lead. If you pursue this early on, she will think you are just trying to take advantage of her time which is set aside to make money. Happened to me recently and she made the first move. We both do not have any illusions as to a future together so it is not a romantic relationship. But we simply like each other, care about each other, and spend time having fun when it doesn't interfer with the most important things in her life. And business sessions are just that. Two good friends who also like to get under the sheets.
Have had friends in the hobby - friend good - cause unless you are a masochist - sex is better if you actually like the other person - so it make the hobby better! how far can it go? depends on the MUTUAL feelings - it is interesting in that one provider on this board met someone out of the hobby - and she was fearful of telling him her job. Turns out she did - and I gather it took some adjustment - but that - it turns out was not the major problem to the potential relationship - she was a law student - and would be a professional - He was not and would not - so the impediment was her drive to achieve a professional career.... so there are obsticles no matter what!
My personal painful experience is that a friendship with a provider is ephemeral. Even if she calls you a friend, she can change her mind overnight to suit her personal or business interests. I have avoided friendships with providers since that bad experience.