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Re: Elaborate on your post please.
gypsypooner2015 3 Reviews 235 reads
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Well as a point of information, all agency owners are pimps.  If they weren't then what would just stop us from all opening our own agencies?  We don't want to be arrested and have the full weight of the government come down on us.  We limit our activities to misdemeanors at most and poon responsibly.  These pimps-agency owners are greedy bastards who upsell, many commit home invasions, and rip off hobbyists.  They ought be be taken out by the government as the government is actually doing us a service by arresting these agency-pimps because it lowers prices.

And also only complete retards who confess are arrested walking out of an independent providers incall.  If you don't say anything incriminating or better do not say anything at all merely walking out is not an offense.  They can write down your plate number or id you but that does not amount to probable cause.  

 
Posted By: gamesbond
Wonderful....a hobbyist advocating providers get busted so he is protected.  A hobbyist proclaiming all agency owners are pimps.  How about you get busted going in or out of a independent providers incall.  Yes it does happen.  No one is immune.  Based on your statements you could care less if a girl goes to jail or ends up with a felony.  That attitude will win you loads of friends.  
   
Posted By: gypsypooner2015
Its better the government shut these criminal enterprises down  
     
  1)  it keeps them busy and away from hobbyists  
  2)  the agency pimps mark up the prices too much and are inefficient  
     
     
     
Posted By: Zzbottom2
   
       
   
Posted By: GoldieKnox
how and why was it dumb?    
    do we want them flying "utr" ?    
         
         
         
    your post confuses me - was this tongue in cheek?
   
       
   Not tongue in cheek, yes utr so they can stick around. Now theyre right back where they were when they, and several other agencies(including some great Asian ones) either got busted or closed up shop in the past year.

The SD agency is back as www.azdolls dot com. Enjoy and stay safe guys :)

Seems like their screening page is asking for names and photos of hobbyists.  That would be highly sensitive when they are busted which is likely as all other agencies seem to eventually be.
 

Posted By: pseeker41
The SD agency is back as www.azdolls dot com. Enjoy and stay safe guys :)

Zzbottom2645 reads

Way to out them.  They could've flown under the radar for a while.

Freemoney532 reads

Rates are way out my range

how and why was it dumb?
do we want them flying "utr" ?

 

your post confuses me - was this tongue in cheek?

DAVEPHX455 reads

Posted By: GoldieKnox
how and why was it dumb?  
 do we want them flying "utr" ?  
 your post confuses me - was this tongue in cheek?
With all the criminal enterprise serious busts going on the question is very serious.  Owners and all workers face potentially long prison terms.  I've been reporting on these for years and following the many cases in Superior Court with more new ones frequently. An agency or masssage place or anyone with a helper, driver etc is considered a criminal enterprise, then added money laundering for all transactions and other felony charges with long potential prison times.

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Posted By: GoldieKnox
how and why was it dumb?  
 do we want them flying "utr" ?  
   
   
   
 your post confuses me - was this tongue in cheek?
Not tongue in cheek, yes utr so they can stick around. Now theyre right back where they were when they, and several other agencies(including some great Asian ones) either got busted or closed up shop in the past year.

Its better the government shut these criminal enterprises down

1)  it keeps them busy and away from hobbyists
2)  the agency pimps mark up the prices too much and are inefficient

 

Posted By: Zzbottom2
 
   
Posted By: GoldieKnox
how and why was it dumb?  
  do we want them flying "utr" ?  
     
     
     
  your post confuses me - was this tongue in cheek?
   
 Not tongue in cheek, yes utr so they can stick around. Now theyre right back where they were when they, and several other agencies(including some great Asian ones) either got busted or closed up shop in the past year.

Wonderful....a hobbyist advocating providers get busted so he is protected.  A hobbyist proclaiming all agency owners are pimps.  How about you get busted going in or out of a independent providers incall.  Yes it does happen.  No one is immune.  Based on your statements you could care less if a girl goes to jail or ends up with a felony.  That attitude will win you loads of friends.

Posted By: gypsypooner2015
Its better the government shut these criminal enterprises down  
   
 1)  it keeps them busy and away from hobbyists  
 2)  the agency pimps mark up the prices too much and are inefficient  
   
   
   
Posted By: Zzbottom2
 
     
Posted By: GoldieKnox
how and why was it dumb?    
   do we want them flying "utr" ?    
       
       
       
   your post confuses me - was this tongue in cheek?
 
     
  Not tongue in cheek, yes utr so they can stick around. Now theyre right back where they were when they, and several other agencies(including some great Asian ones) either got busted or closed up shop in the past year.

Well as a point of information, all agency owners are pimps.  If they weren't then what would just stop us from all opening our own agencies?  We don't want to be arrested and have the full weight of the government come down on us.  We limit our activities to misdemeanors at most and poon responsibly.  These pimps-agency owners are greedy bastards who upsell, many commit home invasions, and rip off hobbyists.  They ought be be taken out by the government as the government is actually doing us a service by arresting these agency-pimps because it lowers prices.

And also only complete retards who confess are arrested walking out of an independent providers incall.  If you don't say anything incriminating or better do not say anything at all merely walking out is not an offense.  They can write down your plate number or id you but that does not amount to probable cause.  

 

Posted By: gamesbond
Wonderful....a hobbyist advocating providers get busted so he is protected.  A hobbyist proclaiming all agency owners are pimps.  How about you get busted going in or out of a independent providers incall.  Yes it does happen.  No one is immune.  Based on your statements you could care less if a girl goes to jail or ends up with a felony.  That attitude will win you loads of friends.  
   
Posted By: gypsypooner2015
Its better the government shut these criminal enterprises down  
     
  1)  it keeps them busy and away from hobbyists  
  2)  the agency pimps mark up the prices too much and are inefficient  
     
     
     
Posted By: Zzbottom2
   
       
   
Posted By: GoldieKnox
how and why was it dumb?    
    do we want them flying "utr" ?    
         
         
         
    your post confuses me - was this tongue in cheek?
   
       
   Not tongue in cheek, yes utr so they can stick around. Now theyre right back where they were when they, and several other agencies(including some great Asian ones) either got busted or closed up shop in the past year.

DAVEPHX397 reads

There are many very nice honest agency owners but not in Phoenix since don't want to go to prison.  

But all the gals have the same risk that work for them.  I just returned from Court with six great young gals with lives ruined as lifetime felons even if take a plea deal for probation instead of jail.   One pled today for one of many counts.  Attempted criminal enterprise related since she had a key and was seen opening and closing the door of operation.   Class 4 felony and undesignated which means can not be later reduced to a misdemeanor.   Will be sentenced in mid January.  Under minimum mandatory sentencing the guideline is 1 year in prison, with the minimum 6 months.   UP to the judge but probably will get 6-12 months or probation depending on what the pre-sentence report shows.  But will be a felon for life.  

This was just a working gal,not the owner who faces far more serious counts etc.  

I am doing an update for about 30 active felony cases I am following with hundreds of gals and owners.  Probably won't be allowed to post here but the point is, if the agency or a massage owner goes down to so all the workers i.e. 37 in the Phoenix Temple case that was in Court for 5-years and Tracy now in prison.  All others took pleas.  She turned down a plea for time served and lost at trial.  She has filed appeal but she may have already been in prison for the 5 years (less time served awaiting trial) by the time the Appeal is heard.

Can't argue with that other than to add that Maricopa County Superior Court is generally a sad place
Judges in that court are terrible!

Just stay away from organized prostitution and stay away from stings is the best advice for everyone.  The government thinks it is making us safer by sentencing out of state hobbyists to ten years in prison for trying to have sex with 17 year olds so who are we to argue?  Maybe the government wants the gang members to have sex with 16 and 17 year olds instead so that way they have less energy for drive by shootings and armed robberies... seems legit.  
 

Posted By: DAVEPHX
There are many very nice honest agency owners but not in Phoenix since don't want to go to prison.  
   
 But all the gals have the same risk that work for them.  I just returned from Court with six great young gals with lives ruined as lifetime felons even if take a plea deal for probation instead of jail.   One pled today for one of many counts.  Attempted criminal enterprise related since she had a key and was seen opening and closing the door of operation.   Class 4 felony and undesignated which means can not be later reduced to a misdemeanor.   Will be sentenced in mid January.  Under minimum mandatory sentencing the guideline is 1 year in prison, with the minimum 6 months.   UP to the judge but probably will get 6-12 months or probation depending on what the pre-sentence report shows.  But will be a felon for life.  
   
 This was just a working gal,not the owner who faces far more serious counts etc.  
   
 I am doing an update for about 30 active felony cases I am following with hundreds of gals and owners.  Probably won't be allowed to post here but the point is, if the agency or a massage owner goes down to so all the workers i.e. 37 in the Phoenix Temple case that was in Court for 5-years and Tracy now in prison.  All others took pleas.  She turned down a plea for time served and lost at trial.  She has filed appeal but she may have already been in prison for the 5 years (less time served awaiting trial) by the time the Appeal is heard.

DAVEPHX306 reads

Posted By: gypsypooner
Can't argue with that other than to add that Maricopa County Superior Court is generally a sad place  Judges in that court are terrible!  
In my observations the judges have been great and very fair.  It is the law that is the issue.  

Judge Stephens in the Temple case always let Tracy go on and on and on.. about her persecution of her goddess stuff that I was amazed how rarely she would get her to "move on" even with dead non-relevant issues.  Judge Stephens was firm when had to be.  When the jury found her guilty with mandatory sentencing ranges she had to use the highest felony level in all the 22 counts but ran everything concurrent vs 100 years potential in the earlier "Donald Advisements".   She did the minimum she could for the felony level of the highest charge she was found guilty of.  She was very professional, fair and friendly.

Today, in the massage parlor case of six, Judge McCoy was a very casual laid back type.  Seemed very fair and explaining everything carefully and defendants and attorneys could say whatever they liked.  Between the massage gals was a sentencing for a two other cases both with priors and had been in prison and now sentenced to prison including one guy on drug charges who got 9 years.   But again was very "nice" in what he had to do under the law etc.  

I've been in Reinstens's court and another in Temple case (had 3 judges over the 5 years) and though all were very fair and professional.  

Likewise the Phoenix municipal judge case in the famous case where in Phoenix just asking if you are a cop violates the "manifestation" law - forget judges name but was very fair and pleasant.  But mostly I just follow companion or massage-related felony cases in Superior Court

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