Phoenix

Seriously?
balljointnut 23 Reviews 363 reads
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Have you ever read the reviews men post about their size, how many O's the gave a hooker, how they truly connected? I'm not saying it couldn't happen but what self serving whoremonger would hide his whitelist? As a group we are probably the most self serving narcissist out there. LOL. I can personally say I don't give 2 shits about whitelists but I certainly would not hide them.

(TER ID 193693)
OK, here is another recent situation where I contacted a reviewed provider and everything started out well, before it all went to hell...

I saw a post on BP from Jenna a couple of weeks ago, which led me to her reviews on TER, and that in turn led me to her P411 profile.  So I contacted her by PM on P411 and she got back to me fairly quickly. We exchanged a few PMs, had a meeting set in a couple of hours, everything seemed normal.  Then she asked me to send her a text to confirm.  No problem.  Now, pay attention... because here is where I committed a HUGE SIN... you might miss it.  I went back to her BP ad (because it happened to be up on my PC at the time) and used the phone number she had there to send her a text.  It turned out that she had a different phone number on her P411 profile, but I had not noticed that, and she did not point it out nor did she tell me to use a specific number.  I just assumed that she only had one phone number.  (I know, I know, we all know what we do when we assume...)

A short while after I sent the text she called me back but she was on the offensive. She started off with "HOW did you get this number??".  I was taken aback.  I told her I saw it on her BP ad (actually I had to recall first, because it was not important to me at the time).  She interrupted me (she did that a lot, actually) and told me that she only used that phone number on her BP ad and it was VERY UNUSUAL that I would use that number when I had contacted her on P411, and she was VERY WORRIED about her security.  (I had a hard time following this logic, because if she had posted this phone number on BP, then ANYONE could see it, right?  It was no big secret, so how could that be a security risk?  If you don’t want people to contact you on BP, then DON’T post there!  Now, if it had been the opposite case — someone contacted her off the BP ad but then used the secret P411 number, well that WOULD be cause for concern.)  Needless to say, I said none of what I was thinking, as she was clearly upset and concerned about her safety, and I just wanted to reassure her that there was nothing to worry about, that I had made an honest (if careless) mistake, and that it would be OK.  But she was having none of it!  She kept interrupting me and going on and on about how weird this situation was and how worried she was about her safety, so I just shut up and let her talk.  

Eventually she wound down a notch and asked me if I had anything to say.  I was unsure what to say at that point, since it seemed like nothing I was saying was getting through.  So I asked her if she had looked at my P411 profile, to which she replied “Well, OBVIOUSLY” in a downright nasty tone.  And I asked her “Well, did you notice that I had 14 OKs on it?…”, trying to be as calm and even toned as possible. I was going to say more, but she just EXPLODED.  Went off on me, saying she was going to block me, calling me names, the works.  After about 10 seconds of that I realized that nothing I could say was ever going to salvage the situation, so I just shouted over her tirade “Never mind — I don’t want to see you any more!” and hung up.  Then she called me twice more!  Evidently to tell me what a horrible person I was, but I had had enough of her hysteria by this point.  Then she sent me a text telling me that I was obviously a crazy person (!!  funny how she could glean that from the 20 words she let me say!) and she was so glad that we were not going to meet (and that was the ONLY thing she wrote that I could agree with!).  

So, if you want to see this person, I am not trying to dissuade you… but just keep in mind this one simple thing: USE THE RIGHT PHONE NUMBER.  
Of course, it is possible that you might find some other seemingly innocent way to set her off… but that is the chance you take…

Terrible attitude dns

Posted By: spamdog9
(TER ID 193693)  
 OK, here is another recent situation where I contacted a reviewed provider and everything started out well, before it all went to hell...  
   
 I saw a post on BP from Jenna a couple of weeks ago, which led me to her reviews on TER, and that in turn led me to her P411 profile.  So I contacted her by PM on P411 and she got back to me fairly quickly. We exchanged a few PMs, had a meeting set in a couple of hours, everything seemed normal.  Then she asked me to send her a text to confirm.  No problem.  Now, pay attention... because here is where I committed a HUGE SIN... you might miss it.  I went back to her BP ad (because it happened to be up on my PC at the time) and used the phone number she had there to send her a text.  It turned out that she had a different phone number on her P411 profile, but I had not noticed that, and she did not point it out nor did she tell me to use a specific number.  I just assumed that she only had one phone number.  (I know, I know, we all know what we do when we assume...)  
   
 A short while after I sent the text she called me back but she was on the offensive. She started off with "HOW did you get this number??".  I was taken aback.  I told her I saw it on her BP ad (actually I had to recall first, because it was not important to me at the time).  She interrupted me (she did that a lot, actually) and told me that she only used that phone number on her BP ad and it was VERY UNUSUAL that I would use that number when I had contacted her on P411, and she was VERY WORRIED about her security.  (I had a hard time following this logic, because if she had posted this phone number on BP, then ANYONE could see it, right?  It was no big secret, so how could that be a security risk?  If you don’t want people to contact you on BP, then DON’T post there!  Now, if it had been the opposite case — someone contacted her off the BP ad but then used the secret P411 number, well that WOULD be cause for concern.)  Needless to say, I said none of what I was thinking, as she was clearly upset and concerned about her safety, and I just wanted to reassure her that there was nothing to worry about, that I had made an honest (if careless) mistake, and that it would be OK.  But she was having none of it!  She kept interrupting me and going on and on about how weird this situation was and how worried she was about her safety, so I just shut up and let her talk.    
   
 Eventually she wound down a notch and asked me if I had anything to say.  I was unsure what to say at that point, since it seemed like nothing I was saying was getting through.  So I asked her if she had looked at my P411 profile, to which she replied “Well, OBVIOUSLY” in a downright nasty tone.  And I asked her “Well, did you notice that I had 14 OKs on it?…”, trying to be as calm and even toned as possible. I was going to say more, but she just EXPLODED.  Went off on me, saying she was going to block me, calling me names, the works.  After about 10 seconds of that I realized that nothing I could say was ever going to salvage the situation, so I just shouted over her tirade “Never mind — I don’t want to see you any more!” and hung up.  Then she called me twice more!  Evidently to tell me what a horrible person I was, but I had had enough of her hysteria by this point.  Then she sent me a text telling me that I was obviously a crazy person (!!  funny how she could glean that from the 20 words she let me say!) and she was so glad that we were not going to meet (and that was the ONLY thing she wrote that I could agree with!).    
   
 So, if you want to see this person, I am not trying to dissuade you… but just keep in mind this one simple thing: USE THE RIGHT PHONE NUMBER.    
 Of course, it is possible that you might find some other seemingly innocent way to set her off… but that is the chance you take…

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Posted By: spamdog9
(TER ID 193693)  
 OK, here is another recent situation where I contacted a reviewed provider and everything started out well, before it all went to hell...  
   
 I saw a post on BP from Jenna a couple of weeks ago, which led me to her reviews on TER, and that in turn led me to her P411 profile.  So I contacted her by PM on P411 and she got back to me fairly quickly. We exchanged a few PMs, had a meeting set in a couple of hours, everything seemed normal.  Then she asked me to send her a text to confirm.  No problem.  Now, pay attention... because here is where I committed a HUGE SIN... you might miss it.  I went back to her BP ad (because it happened to be up on my PC at the time) and used the phone number she had there to send her a text.  It turned out that she had a different phone number on her P411 profile, but I had not noticed that, and she did not point it out nor did she tell me to use a specific number.  I just assumed that she only had one phone number.  (I know, I know, we all know what we do when we assume...)  
   
 A short while after I sent the text she called me back but she was on the offensive. She started off with "HOW did you get this number??".  I was taken aback.  I told her I saw it on her BP ad (actually I had to recall first, because it was not important to me at the time).  She interrupted me (she did that a lot, actually) and told me that she only used that phone number on her BP ad and it was VERY UNUSUAL that I would use that number when I had contacted her on P411, and she was VERY WORRIED about her security.  (I had a hard time following this logic, because if she had posted this phone number on BP, then ANYONE could see it, right?  It was no big secret, so how could that be a security risk?  If you don’t want people to contact you on BP, then DON’T post there!  Now, if it had been the opposite case — someone contacted her off the BP ad but then used the secret P411 number, well that WOULD be cause for concern.)  Needless to say, I said none of what I was thinking, as she was clearly upset and concerned about her safety, and I just wanted to reassure her that there was nothing to worry about, that I had made an honest (if careless) mistake, and that it would be OK.  But she was having none of it!  She kept interrupting me and going on and on about how weird this situation was and how worried she was about her safety, so I just shut up and let her talk.    
   
 Eventually she wound down a notch and asked me if I had anything to say.  I was unsure what to say at that point, since it seemed like nothing I was saying was getting through.  So I asked her if she had looked at my P411 profile, to which she replied “Well, OBVIOUSLY” in a downright nasty tone.  And I asked her “Well, did you notice that I had 14 OKs on it?…”, trying to be as calm and even toned as possible. I was going to say more, but she just EXPLODED.  Went off on me, saying she was going to block me, calling me names, the works.  After about 10 seconds of that I realized that nothing I could say was ever going to salvage the situation, so I just shouted over her tirade “Never mind — I don’t want to see you any more!” and hung up.  Then she called me twice more!  Evidently to tell me what a horrible person I was, but I had had enough of her hysteria by this point.  Then she sent me a text telling me that I was obviously a crazy person (!!  funny how she could glean that from the 20 words she let me say!) and she was so glad that we were not going to meet (and that was the ONLY thing she wrote that I could agree with!).    
   
 So, if you want to see this person, I am not trying to dissuade you… but just keep in mind this one simple thing: USE THE RIGHT PHONE NUMBER.    
 Of course, it is possible that you might find some other seemingly innocent way to set her off… but that is the chance you take…
Thanks for sharing. Young girls have young girl issues and act like that too often. Ugh, all that drama and you may as well have a civilian gf. Yea, she got something twisted in that pea mind. I would of hung up long before you did. Doubt your missing much. We all appreciate such info.

why did you contact her in the first place?

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Posted By: balljointnut
why did you contact her in the first place?
 
No kidding. No kissing, no touch pussy, no bbbj.............. no fun.

EXACTLY what I was thinking!  Mediocre in looks, mediocre (at best) in performance, this guy has had 153 reviews (though he has no Whitelists (which, if you begin to think about it, is very interesting--153 reviews spread out over about 13 YEARS, and NOT A SINGLE Whitelist here!).
Maybe there's more to this whole scenario than what we read on the surface?
If something in this hobby has a fishy smell to it, it's usually fish, that's all I'm sayin'

Can't you select to hide a Whitelist on your account? I am not sure why a person would if they also write reviews, but could that be the case in his situation? I am just curious.

...the OP might have 193 White Lists for all we know and has chosen not to display them. In a member's Account Manager, he has the option of displaying his White List or not. It defaults to not displaying it so if he chooses not to display it, it's not quite the same as hiding it. Good catch!

WOW!!! So sorry you had to go through that, that just sounds so crazy to me!!! If the number on BP is SO WRONG, like you said DONT POST ON BP, so many of us NEVER GO ON THERE!!

So many quality chicks on BP and at a reasonable price. Whhaatt!

Have you ever read the reviews men post about their size, how many O's the gave a hooker, how they truly connected? I'm not saying it couldn't happen but what self serving whoremonger would hide his whitelist? As a group we are probably the most self serving narcissist out there. LOL. I can personally say I don't give 2 shits about whitelists but I certainly would not hide them.

Posted By: JEFFREY
EXACTLY what I was thinking!  Mediocre in looks, mediocre (at best) in performance, this guy has had 153 reviews (though he has no Whitelists (which, if you begin to think about it, is very interesting--153 reviews spread out over about 13 YEARS, and NOT A SINGLE Whitelist here!).  
 Maybe there's more to this whole scenario than what we read on the surface?  
 If something in this hobby has a fishy smell to it, it's usually fish, that's all I'm sayin'!  
 
Well, thanks, Jeffrey!!  And  here I thought we were friends…   (Have you forgotten all the PMs we shared?...)  Lol

Ok, full disclosure -- I'm not hiding my whitelist (at least I don't think I am),  because I don't think that there is anything to hide. The truth is that I am completely clueless about the Whitelist.  I have never used it, and I don't really even know how to. I have never asked anyone to give me a reference on it if, assuming that is what you do. I have always considered TER  to be about hobbyists  helping each other out, I don't use it to ask providers to help me out. I use P411 and DateCheck to let providers verify me.  That's the whole story. (And I'm sticking to it!)

As for if I am reliable source or not, you will have to be the judge of that. I have been writing reviews in the Phoenix area for a while now, and I have always tried to be honest and accurate. If anyone thinks that I have misled them, they are welcome to let me know.  So far, nobody ever has…

es, I did forget LOL!  Aging, you know, it's not easy, nor fun.
So, now I'm confused as why you'd want to see a woman with her profile & reviews LOL.
Either way, I apologize

Posted By: JEFFREY
Yes, I did forget LOL!  Aging, you know, it's not easy, nor fun.  
 So, now I'm confused as why you'd want to see a woman with her profile & reviews LOL.  
 Either way, I apologize!  
 J  
 
No worries, Jeff!  It's all good.    
Obviously you are not the only one suffering from age-related memory loss… Because I am looking back at her profile now myself and I am scratching my head wondering "why the hell DID I contact her anyway?..."
Trying to reconstruct it, I think this was a case of a spur of the moment decision -- someone had canceled on me and I was looking for something quickly and saw her ad on BP. Her pics looked hot, and the TER reviews assured me that she was for real, but obviously I did not read them very carefully. I then contacted her right away and you know the rest of the story… So, I think it was a case of a rushed research job -- never a good idea.  I should know better.

So most of you would not need this warning. However, I have gotten a PM from someone who said he was going to contact her and now is not going to.  So, if I saved one person from a lousy experience, I am going to post the "Mission Accomplished" sign and move on...

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Posted By: JEFFREY
EXACTLY what I was thinking!  Mediocre in looks, mediocre (at best) in performance, this guy has had 153 reviews (though he has no Whitelists (which, if you begin to think about it, is very interesting--153 reviews spread out over about 13 YEARS, and NOT A SINGLE Whitelist here!).  
 Maybe there's more to this whole scenario than what we read on the surface?  
 If something in this hobby has a fishy smell to it, it's usually fish, that's all I'm sayin'!  
 
Quick to try and create drama? All you're doing is being a hater. Mountains of molehills.

She had a TER profile with ALL good reviews. It linked to one site, which was still active. I called her and she freaked out, insisting to know how I got her number. I said it's on both TER and the other site. She insisted that every page was removed and that I was lying. She was irate that I was misrepresenting why I was really calling her and that there is no way I was looking at any active. (Must not have had a biz phone.) I told her to look for herself, I wasn't going to beg her to believe it, and hung up. She apparently had been a good provider, but is obviously not a real good detective

Two crazy situations in a row sucks.
If it wasn't for bad luck, you wouldn't have no luck at all.

I know, right?    To tell you the truth, after the second time I really began to wonder what the hell was going on… Was this somehow my fault? Could I have done something differently to avoid this? I really don't know, but I don't think so. I went so far as to discuss with a provider who is a friend of mine and went over the whole thing, and she assured me that it wasn't my fault. (But maybe she was just being nice?… )

The way I operate, I just give people the benefit of the doubt and assume that they are normal and trying to do their best, because that is what I do. Maybe it is just naïve, and I deserve it when I get hit over the head by someone who is not in that mode. But I don't think I'm going to change, so I guess I WILL experience this a third time someday... Looking forward to it…

There have been a couple of ladies that caught my eye and it turns out to be something similar to your deal.  It seems like a ton-o-drama when dealing with the under--30 set.  

I'd have a hard time paying her rate with all of her no's.  But that's just me!  

Good luck on #3 try.  Hopefully that's a charm.

Posted By: Dave76015
There have been a couple of ladies that caught my eye and it turns out to be something similar to your deal.  It seems like a ton-o-drama when dealing with the under--30 set.    
   
 I'd have a hard time paying her rate with all of her no's.  But that's just me!    
   
 Good luck on #3 try.  Hopefully that's a charm.
Thanks, Dave!  Actually, I have had a couple of good experiences since then, so no worries. (Gotta write the reviews... I have fallen behind again...)

Thankfully, weird experiences like this are really the exception to the rule. The vast majority of providers I have met have been been very normal,  psychologically speaking, and many are people that I would enjoy hanging out with in real life.  It's just bizarre that something weird like this happened twice in one week....  And I'm  not even going to talk about how many people flaked on me that week... But that's another story.  (And one that I am not going to tell, because you all know it already having experienced it yourselves… So you don't need to hear someone else's sob story.)

Maybe there was something in the water...

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Posted By: balljointnut
It has to do with not thinking with your pecker.
And on a monger board we all let the pecker lead the way and hope the big head speaks up to rationalize.

that they've published for all the world to see on BP. As I read your story, all I can think is she was high as a kite on some damn thing. If this hadn't set her off, something else would've when you were in a room with her and you'd be out some cheddar and God knows what else.

You got lucky and dodged a huge bullet with the way this went down. I don't see any other way to look at it. You found out she's nuts before you ended up face to face with her. I think you're damn lucky. I hope she's okay and gets her act together, but you got off easy compared to what could've been. You got a fun story to tell and it didn't cost you a dime.

Good of you to give the board a head's up.

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