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Some of you might agree with me or not. For the last 12 months, I found that most of the times providers in the $350 range and upwards will provide clean incall, good performance and excellent service. Can't say too much for those below the $350 range. As always there are a few exception but for the most part I fing that is the case. Anyone have different experiences??

Top providers know their worth and know how to provide an overall great experience, quality / cleanliness of incall included. You pay for what you get. Every sub $300 experience is the same: regretful.

There are plenty of fine young ladies under $300 that provide an outstanding experience in a top quality environment. Just because you are not willing to do the research to find them doesn't mean they are not out there. Stop listening to the $300+ hookers that constantly trash the lower dollar hookers.

My atf provider (now retired) I met in Seattle for $100 hh with bbbj included.  She was 19, had blue eyes, blonde hair, 36dd very perky, and about 5'9" - but basically she was only available for about a month then she left :

I have to disagree with your statement that ALL providers at less than $300/hour are unworthy of a clients time. My donations are at $250/hour and my reviews are consistently high. I provide what most clients are looking for and usually exceed their expectations in all areas.I would argue that there ARE providers in the sub $300/hour category that are at the top of their game.

Warm regards,
Lavanna

Posted By: pseeker41
Some of you might agree with me or not. For the last 12 months, I found that most of the times providers in the $350 range and upwards will provide clean incall, good performance and excellent service. Can't say too much for those below the $350 range. As always there are a few exception but for the most part I fing that is the case. Anyone have different experiences??
I have noticed that the ladies I find the most attractive, are $400-$600 p/h between PHX, Vegas and Cali where I roam. Thats based upon looks, age (not too young/green, or too old) and the appearance of their body...what turns me on personally. I have found that when I stay in that price range, the incalls are much nicer hotels and even furnished condos. The $350 or less range has often been in apartments (often that the lady lived in) or lower cost hotels. I can't say I had worse experiences, or worse performance from a lady just because of the hotel being 3 star as opposed to 5 star, however I have found that I can't get the kind of women I personally am the most attracted too for below $400. My sweet spot is $400-$600 for me. That said, there is a point of diminishing return. I CANT say that I had way better experiences or performance, or incalls when I went over $600 p/h. The $1000 per hour girl was no different than the $500-$600 p/h girls on all accounts, unless you get into porn stars. I saw Eva Notty in PHX years ago when she was a local girl running a spray tan business and permanent makeup business for $500 p/h modeling for Scoreland. Now she is in Vegas/Cali running her own pay per view website and works for Brazzers and Naughty America and charges $1200 p/h. Same girl, just much more popular now. Summer Brielle ain't going to charge under a grand and she is a fantasy for me, but that don't mean she is going to be 'more fun' to play with than a $600 p/h girl in Vegas with 10/10 on TER.  

Tucson is a place I have had great experiences and great performance for less than the 'big city' markets ($225 p/h-$250 p/h normally) but of course the incalls were not as nice. They were clean, just not as nice. I tend to agree with you, but thats my humble opinion based upon 20 years of the hobby. Yes, better looking women (better looking to a higher percentage of men, not based upon personal opinions) charge more, girls with nothing but 9/10 - 10/10 reviews charge more. Because they charge more and often have a lot of clients because they are so desirable, they can afford wine and other refreshments to offer, have nicer/more clothes, nicer websites and professional photos, nicer hair and nicer hotels/condo's.

20 yrs in the hobby but only 7 reviews and not a 9/10 or 10/10 ever given out. I guess regardless of their previous reviews they fell short of your expectations.

I admit, I don't write reviews. I have, I sucked at writing them at first, my first two were really poorly written. I got a little better, but IMO, the reviews are more detailed about a guys date than I need hear. Many providers agree with me on that point. I just want to know if she looked like the picture, was she the girl in the picture? Does she offer BBBJ's or is she a CBJ type? Was the incall location clean and in a safe discreet location? Did anyone get stood up, or jerked around? Was she was easy to deal with up to the date? Was she pleasant and easy to talk to/made the guy feel comfortable? TER doesn't allow men to say if a woman stood them up, because if they didn't see the lady, he can't submit a review.  

I can't say I agree with the TER conditions for a 10 performance review. To be clear, I have nothing but praise for this site. I hobbied prior to the internet and TER is awesome. However, I am not into traveling to the greek islands for example and that has little to do with my experience being a 10 regarding her performance. I have written reviews and have had my performance down graded even though I was very satisfied and excited when I left, but I think my wording caused TER to say my time was 'HOT' when I actually think it was more than that. I think some guys really church up their reviews of the girls in written word to make sure they meet TER's guidelines to get that 10 performance number for someone they really like, but in all the years I have done this, I don't know many women who actually want/offer you to CIM or offer greek (unless they know they guy well or he ain't hung like a horse and she may get hurt). I'm not saying it don't happen, I'm just saying CIM for example is again another condition that has nothing to do with my experience being a 10. I am well endowed and most women aint going to offer me greek once they see it and thats okay with me.  

I also had an issue not being able to see better rated girls, because I had lapses in activity on my P411 page. The girls who rate higher on TER (those I really wanted to see based upon looks) often would not see me unless I had a reference they could call that remembered me. So I had to see ladies that were below my standards (not bad providers, just not what I fantasize about/not what I'm willing jump to pay for) to get a couple of Okays so I could see the women I wanted. That is another reason for not writing reviews. I was not seeing someone I wanted in the first place, because I had to get recent okays to get to those I wanted to play with. Another reason for a lack of reviews is I actually had a girl cry on one of my dates, because she thought I was interested in younger women and she felt she was never going to be anything more than a hooker and she was aging. Another lady was all messed up over a guy and actually showed my highlighted paragraphs from a book she was reading about getting over someone and moving on in life. Both providers are well known and highly reviewed. There is no way I would have gave them high marks, but in hind site, there is no way I am going to trash the girl for having a bad day. Both girls 'performed' great, but I wont ruin a girls reputation because I didn't connect with her on a day she was feeling down. If the one girl felt so bad she cried, there is no reason to tell other men about that. It was personal to her and nothing to do with 'performance' or her looks. I obviously caught them on a bad day and again, it had nothing to do with her performance.  

Thats just me though.

And you sound like most of the new clients I have that think just like you
 It took one guy who only see girls in the price range that you mentioned who was referred to me by a friend of his. And although he was hesitant because he has a rule about seeing providers under 400/hr. After seeing me told me I wasn't charging enough and I needed to raise my rates.  

I did as he suggested and like I mentioned before I have a entire new clientele so yes there are a lot of gentlemen like you around.

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Ever wash a hog?

Saying all sub $300 or over $400 are this or that is painting with a broad brush..All are different. Market economy. They get what they can get for the amount of work they are willing to do. Sure a girl doing it for $50 is probably not going to be a great, clean, safe experience and the ladies getting away with $500+ per hour should be clean, safe, attentive, fun and do magic tricks in my opinion...Really its hookers and johns. Pu*** is pu*** in most cases. I have seen $80 for a quick girls that are fine, clean and safe and I've paid $500 for an experience with a very highly touted lady whereas I would of rather called a cheap girl off BP. It just depends...  

 
The most beautiful lady, hottest body I've ever seen, classiest and best personality charges $250 hr. I have seen $80 girls on a qk who were fine and it was a good experience and I've paid "full fare" for girls that made me want to never try this again.  

 I vette a little, check reviews and stay away from a certain "class" of people just based on the research I can do and how they come across in ads and text..There are a shipload of ladies, higher and lower priced,I wouldn't get near with a 10 foot pole.

Ford or Mercedes...they both drive you down the road the same. Its sort of like having sex with an unattractive civie girl. When the lights are off and you're doing your thing it is still a lot of damn fun...you just won't tell your friends about it.

.... to pay so much to have such bad experiences.  
I really don't get it. I've had excellent experiences with ladies who took $250, $300, $350,$400,$450,$500, and $600 for their time.  
The only poor experience I've had was with a 21 year old who didn't want to be anywhere.  
So I stick with more mature and experienced ladies who have honed their skills to levels that I have not found in the civie world.  
It's all about research and finding who I'm looking for.  
You all sound like you have resentments.  
I guess I've just been luckier than you.

Posted By: surlyboy
 
   
 I have noticed that the ladies I find the most attractive, are $400-$600 p/h between PHX, Vegas and Cali where I roam. Thats based upon looks, age (not too young/green, or too old) and the appearance of their body...what turns me on personally.  
   
 
Herein lies the problem. The appearance of their body... in their old and/or photoshopped pics. Time and again you see the long list of 10's popped by a 7 or less, telling the real deal about how the photos are just not true as of today.  Stay and get ripped off; or leave and get blacklisted? Too much riding on it. I value looks way too much to see someone with only pro pics.

$350 and below with immaculate in call situations and providing top shelf experiences.

Bailey Meyers
Khloe Meadows
Emily Paige
Samantha Stevens

Lazy bastards need not apply.

Thanks for the list. The common thing to all the ladies in your list is they are all MILF, if anyone is into that. Fine by me. I personally likes providers that are in the 20's for preference reason :)

Its awesome that the hobby offers something for everyone, but I think you are more like me. You have your fantasy and it's what you're willing to pay for, but to get it, you are over the $350 range. Thats okay. There is no right or wrong to your fantasy man. I like providers that are often blonde, 5'3-5'7 and have DD cups. I like providers 28-40 myself.

So,  I was correct. Lazy,  Any other parameters you'd like to add to your search now?    

Posted By: pseeker41
Thanks for the list. The common thing to all the ladies in your list is they are all MILF, if anyone is into that. Fine by me. I personally likes providers that are in the 20's for preference reason :)

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A 7/7 for a. $400 an hour girl. Just goes to show you no matter how much you spend there's no gaurentee of a great time.  

I can think of a few  providers who had you seen early on you would have paid $250. Adriana/Larissa, Dirty Diana, Stacy James & Dinah Mite were $250 for a long time who've since raised their rate to $300  

Honestly I could care less if a provider hosts at the Ritz Carlton or a LaQuinta as  long as it's safe and clean. And a smart provider today should be able to book on line and get a 3 or 4 star hotel at a reasonable rate.  

Posted By: pseeker41
Some of you might agree with me or not. For the last 12 months, I found that most of the times providers in the $350 range and upwards will provide clean incall, good performance and excellent service. Can't say too much for those below the $350 range. As always there are a few exception but for the most part I fing that is the case. Anyone have different experiences??

You're right on the guarantee part. $400 and still get a 7/7 and chemistry plays a part. That is why I tend to hit up my ATF after a bad appt :)

All I can say is if your attention is focused on the environment itself and not the provider she didn't captivate you when the door opened.  

Nobody ever notices my "guard" Larry nor all my gym stuff until they're leaving and it's all right at my front door entry.  

Price range in my opinion doesn't equate to a good time, it's the price a provider has deemed herself and her time worthy of.
I myself charge $350 because I only do incall and I live in the far north valley. I do not look my age at all head to toe, so I could easily charge more an hour, but I look at the economy the pattern and wants of hobbyists so 350 works for me.

And she's GREAT!
Always was, always will be!
WELCOME BACK BAILEY M!!

Posted By: baileym365
All I can say is if your attention is focused on the environment itself and not the provider she didn't captivate you when the door opened.  
   
 Nobody ever notices my "guard" Larry nor all my gym stuff until they're leaving and it's all right at my front door entry.  
   
What "guard" Larry or gym stuff? I really meant to look for them.  Didn't see them leaving either. Way too distracted by your attention

There are a lot o Gentlemen who won't even look at a provider who rates are not 400 or up. I know this for a fact because as soon as I raised my rates I got a flood of them who are now clients that told me so.

So you are not the only one who think that way That's your prerogative and your hard earned money your spending.  

But in defense of the providers who rates are in the 300 range which was me a few months ago, I still provided a safe clean environment for my clients and since getting my hair nails and toes done is a habit as well as wearing lingerie and heels. I'm doing nothing different now that my rates are higher. My GFE is still top notch, its just  a tad more expensive now.

I take that back, I now offer snacks, and Alkaline water 👍
 

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Oh, wait you still advertise there. I never see you giving love to other BP girls?

Before I respond harshly to you I just want to be sure that your comment was aimed towards me?

And there we have it!  Someone speaks the truth -- and kudos to you, Nina!

I have always suspected this, that some guys just want to pay more, because they have it and they think it guarantees them a better experience, like when they pay more for a car.  It doesn't.  It DOES make it more likely, though.  But I can recount several times when I paid >300 and did not have a great experience.  And several times when I paid much less and had a wonderful time.  However, that said...  I would say that in general the more I paid, the more likely it was that I would enjoy myself.  

Also, don't forget the effect of cognitive dissonance – sometimes when you pay a ton of money, your ego cannot accept that it was not worth it, and inflates in your mind how good the experience was in order to justify your large investment of resources. Look it up...

So forget the generalizations...  they really don't work.  There is nothing to replace doing your homework.  (Like most things in life.)

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