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Someone who has only posted 1 review or has only reviewed women from a single agency get extra grains of salt from me.

Also, it's hard to describe but usually(and I don't mean to be sexist) you can identify a much different style of writing with women.

The type of details, what is talked about, length of review, etc, etc.  Still, it's a gut thing you've got to go with.  

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I also posted this in the suggestions/policy board.

It seems to me that providers are developing ways of getting around TER's great database by changing their names, numbers, email contact, etc, etc.

We have to rely on the community's collective memory to stay away from the professional bait-and-switch artists who provide medocre service at best and continue to prey on the un-suspecting customer.

Is there anyway that TER can help us out with this?  One idea is to provide a URL to an ad or picture when you fill out a review.  Before the URL goes bad, is changed, or removed, a copy could be made to a picture server and forever associated to that review.

I realize the TER staff is already over-worked.  I am will to bet that if you add just one more step to the review process that members would be willing to step up and take responsibilty for making sure a picture is saved permanently.

It only helps TER and the members in the long run.

any thoughts??  We can't always count on Jeopcon1's memory :)

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Ponzone9536 reads

Yea, JT.  I believe a similar concern to what you mentioned would be phoney provider reviews.  That issue just seems to keep coming up.  TER claims that they can determine if a provider is reviewing themselves (or their agency is, on there behalf) and take disciplinary measures.  Only thing is, what is to keep an agency (or whoever) from setting up a slew of TER memberships with different handles, and posting reviews under those handles?  TER CLAIMS they can tell; but I'm not "buying it".  Just too many ways to get around the rules and conceal the fact.  And as it has been said before, TER is understaffed to handle all this stuff.  Result: reviews say a provider does certain things (like CIM or Greek) that they REALLY DON'T do.  Not to mention, any phoney reviews are sure contributing to an apparent large number of higher scores.  To whatever extent it is happening (and I am convinced that it IS to some extent) then the whole TER review system is being undermined.  

-- Modified on 10/8/2004 8:24:53 AM

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RCProNo110016 reads

As the mod, I can tell you absolutely that TER is able to tell - in 80% of the cases which are fake and which are marginal - I'm not going to go into all of the ways that we can tell (don't want to give away the secrets), but we can.

And as soon as we find that happening, the handles are banned, the agencies are banned, the reviews removed, and other steps are taken to keep them from getting back on the board.

We have lots of technological means to police this, however, as the CIA is seeing all over the world, HUMINT is very adept at nailing that next 10%.

So, when you see reviews that you suspect are fake - dig a little see who that reviewer has reviewed, and then if you think it is still too good to be true, PM or email the board mod for that area.  We can take it from there.

Thanks for your help!

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Ponzone4851 reads

Thanks, mod.  Between your post and JB's I can get the idea how you do it.  It does seem to boil down to use of the same computer and URL site, though.  What if they had lots of friends who were doing it from a whole bunch of different computers (perhaps with different ISP's, dial up, DSL, or Cable as well).  Wouldn't they be able to make THAT appear legit??

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JT18966151 reads

Someone who has only posted 1 review or has only reviewed women from a single agency get extra grains of salt from me.

Also, it's hard to describe but usually(and I don't mean to be sexist) you can identify a much different style of writing with women.

The type of details, what is talked about, length of review, etc, etc.  Still, it's a gut thing you've got to go with.  

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Ponzone6588 reads

JT, I agree, but don't you think providers have some MALE friends as well?  They could just get THEM to do it.  After all, they get the rest of us testosterone shmucks to do their bidding.  Providers are, after all, reasonably good at influencing male behavior, and such...

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james867334 reads

when someone disappears.  For instance, Bluegems and its girls (mostly a lapdance and a tugjob, but there's one girl who gives quite a rimming) were once very popular on this Board.... but then they disappeared.  No explanation whatsoever.  And I still patronize the establishment.  However, they disappeared without an explanation.  Could you provide one?

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jpcdesign20025502 reads

Bluegems disappeared for posting their own reviews.  Not sure why they did this as the girls there appeared and still appear to be popular.

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so_colorado2653 reads

Time to let this agency back on the Board.  The board is about spreading information.  This board is about information, which we need, and this agency should have learned its lesson.

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JoeBaloney9303 reads

i'd suspect they use IP proofing.  It's very easy to have the IP address collected when an ad is posted.  And if they use cable it's semi-static.  If they use a dialup, it'll be in the same class C (200.50.60.xxx is a class C) most of the time.  Having 10-20 reviews from the same class c would be a clue.

Personally, as another comment suggested, TER should add the IP address of the reviews and make it a searchable option.  To make it work, it would have to be less than a full string as it can and does change some.  I'm on Cox Cable, and it's probable i'll change IPs a few times a month. But if 10 similar reviews all popped up under 207.54.34 without the last segment, it's at least possible to compare similarities..

The other solution is to have verified info somehow.  There are verification services for us to use for providers safety, why can't we have things to verify the ladies are real and the reviews are real and not themselves or friends posting for them?

It's a pain no matter how you play it..!

--JB

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