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My Biggest Mistakes
gnubie 2 Reviews 636 reads
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1) I tried to save $100.

2) I tried a new type.

Before contacting a provider, I need to ask myself if I am being impulsive.

The first provider I saw looked much older than her photos. That was about 10 years ago, and she STILL USES THE SAME PHOTOS! She also had some other attributes that annoyed me. I should have read more reviews, looked harder. Some reviewers are very forgiving.

All the resources you need are right here. But, only you know your tastes. My first good session was with a provider that resembled a former girlfriend, but, whatever makes you feel comfortable.

jrroberson1019 reads

0 experience, but am looking to find a regular.  I'm not opposed to verifying my information if the situation is reasonable, but do any of you have suggestions?

Is to find a real person to have sex with. If you do need to pay, check out the reviews on this board. If someone has many, many recent reviews you know they are "safe" and legit.

Just don't try to learn the game by calling the low end bia bias off Backpage. Lots of "false advertising" and scams waiting to bite a new guy on there.

Thanks, yeah that's the plan.  My question is more about Verification if you don't have references..

Check out the P411 website. It worked for me. https://www.preferred411.com

Posted By: jrroberson
Thanks, yeah that's the plan.  My question is more about Verification if you don't have references...  
   
 

You could still try to get an appointment without references if you find some provider who needs money especially being about time to pay rent next week.  Backpage doesn't need references, so you could see a backpage girl then have her remember you then see a higher priced provider.  Sometimes the providers will see people if they do a meet and greet first

ShillBill466 reads

As a newb, you should steer clear of backpage.

Posted By: jrroberson
Thanks, yeah that's the plan.  My question is more about Verification if you don't have references...  
   
 
Many providers wont ask for references or info. Most wont actually. Just present yourself respectably on text/phone.  

I personally have never given out my real name/work info, etc like many say they want.  

I would consider it for a couple well known agencies in town but not for a random one time thing.

1) I tried to save $100.

2) I tried a new type.

Before contacting a provider, I need to ask myself if I am being impulsive.

The first provider I saw looked much older than her photos. That was about 10 years ago, and she STILL USES THE SAME PHOTOS! She also had some other attributes that annoyed me. I should have read more reviews, looked harder. Some reviewers are very forgiving.

All the resources you need are right here. But, only you know your tastes. My first good session was with a provider that resembled a former girlfriend, but, whatever makes you feel comfortable.

1. In all things think with your big head, not your little one.  That means if you're in a relationship don't do dumb things that will screw it up.  Set up an anonymous email, get a dedicated hobby phone or a second number app. Have a source of funds your SO won't discover. Above all else, if you decide this isn't for you, take the experience to the grave.
2. Join a verification service.  P411 is very discrete. They are not going to snoop, just verify your employment status to make sure you are not a cop. Once verified you can use it to find newbie friendly providers. You then use their OKS to expand your circle.
3. Pay for VIP on TER. You can see the information and reviews of providers you find here and on P411.
4. Don't see non reviewed providers.  It's just asking for trouble.  Stay away from low end sites like BP. Lots of fake ads, rip off artists and trafficked women.  
5. Set a budget. This is a hobby not a necessity. Don't be spending your kids college fund.
6. Politeness and respect earns consideration from the ladies. Read their rules and respect them.

Hope this helps.  Welcome aboard.

Best Buy used to have some $3.99 phones I think they all went on clearance though.

But definitely the $3.99 phone can beat an iphone due to recent developments proving the iphone is not secure.  A broken $3.99 phone is 20 pieces can't be decrypted. What is wrong with those engineers at Apply anyway -- what kind of moron would put the ability to have a 4 digit number for a PIN encryption?  Better off to use a minimum 20 character phrase in a language other than English and probably use an Android phone which supports this length.  But even then, the government can locate you with your encrypted phone - whereas a broken $3.99 phone is superior if destroyed after each provider and never powered on except in sporadic locations and not your home.

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Also it was reported by a board member (DavePHX) that the FBI had compromised P411.

So don't give personal info to P411, nor agencies either.  Just do an in person verification and do not contract for sexual conduct.

Posted By: gypsypooner2015
Best Buy used to have some $3.99 phones I think they all went on clearance though.  
   
 But definitely the $3.99 phone can beat an iphone due to recent developments proving the iphone is not secure.  A broken $3.99 phone is 20 pieces can't be decrypted. What is wrong with those engineers at Apply anyway -- what kind of moron would put the ability to have a 4 digit number for a PIN encryption?  Better off to use a minimum 20 character phrase in a language other than English and probably use an Android phone which supports this length.  But even then, the government can locate you with your encrypted phone - whereas a broken $3.99 phone is superior if destroyed after each provider and never powered on except in sporadic locations and not your home.  
I'm with you on the phone. You can get one super cheap. What about the service? I'm not aware of any burner cards under about $20 that include days of service.

Verizon for $15 and att for $10 (pay by the day) then destroy phone after use.

Posted By: AlfredHotcock
 
   
Posted By: gypsypooner2015
Best Buy used to have some $3.99 phones I think they all went on clearance though.  
     
  But definitely the $3.99 phone can beat an iphone due to recent developments proving the iphone is not secure.  A broken $3.99 phone is 20 pieces can't be decrypted. What is wrong with those engineers at Apply anyway -- what kind of moron would put the ability to have a 4 digit number for a PIN encryption?  Better off to use a minimum 20 character phrase in a language other than English and probably use an Android phone which supports this length.  But even then, the government can locate you with your encrypted phone - whereas a broken $3.99 phone is superior if destroyed after each provider and never powered on except in sporadic locations and not your home.  
   
 I'm with you on the phone. You can get one super cheap. What about the service? I'm not aware of any burner cards under about $20 that include days of service.

Even better you can get a $3 phone and then call into to 611 and ask to speak to a manager and 9/10 times they will give you $2 as a courtesy credit, which will get you at least one day of phone use, prior to destruction of the phone after the session is complete.  

Posted By: gypsypooner2015
Verizon for $15 and att for $10 (pay by the day) then destroy phone after use.  
   
Posted By: AlfredHotcock
 
     
Posted By: gypsypooner2015
Best Buy used to have some $3.99 phones I think they all went on clearance though.    
       
   But definitely the $3.99 phone can beat an iphone due to recent developments proving the iphone is not secure.  A broken $3.99 phone is 20 pieces can't be decrypted. What is wrong with those engineers at Apply anyway -- what kind of moron would put the ability to have a 4 digit number for a PIN encryption?  Better off to use a minimum 20 character phrase in a language other than English and probably use an Android phone which supports this length.  But even then, the government can locate you with your encrypted phone - whereas a broken $3.99 phone is superior if destroyed after each provider and never powered on except in sporadic locations and not your home.  
 
     
  I'm with you on the phone. You can get one super cheap. What about the service? I'm not aware of any burner cards under about $20 that include days of service.

Actually another technique is to just ask to borrow someone's phone if you see someone walking around.  I remember once I was in an apartment complex in Mesa I believe of a certain sister provider pair and I was  testing a sterile protocol wherein I would not bring any electronic devices in on me nor any ID nor any keys to any vehicle and I contacted someone in the parking lot and borrowed her phone for a quick call.

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