Also "family business" is a code word pimps use to have their providers say they are with their "pimp family" which means they are otherwise unavailable.
I really did not know how to title this page. I had a regular we will call her Alexa, because i don't like to tell incidents and let people wonder who the person is. I met her about a year ago, the first time e met it was wonderful and i informed her I was looking for a regular. We talked like we were old friends, she had just come here from Canada. She was complaining there was nothing do at night in Phoenix. ..talked to her about the business her and tried giving suggestions on this to do. Met several times again, every time was great. Even met her at her house, told me what's going on in her life and complained about her land lord. She moved, met her after that.
I did to let you know this was no wham bam thing. The last couple of times I saw her age was getting flaky, asking me so I was, had we met before. Granted she changed her number several times. I would Jaffe to refresh her memory and or send pic..he respond was how are you doing honey. Told me she would lock my number in. Well fry to see her and we set up a time in Scottsdale, drove to locationand text and called with no reply. Called and text several times. Finally gave up. .giving her benefit of doubt because our past, text her the next day. Told me she had family emergency. .NEVER apologize or said i would make up. .just left at that.
About a month ago I tried to see her again, she had change name to nikkiscott..being in this business a while. .i figured it was a reason. Ask was she available, this was around 2....she replied hi honey, nice to hear from you. ...and said yes. .when. Told her I got off at 5, so around 630.
The weird part....i got near the location, texted her. ..and she asked me what did I look like and my race. .told her I was AA..her reply is that i am not seeing African Americans. ...i replied is me, gave name. And we have seen each other at least 8 times in past 9 months. .she said, oh I am not really seeing you now because you did not tell me who you were.
I informed her with the name...and she said hi honey nice to hear from you I assumed she knew and changed names and hid her face for a reason and did want to come out and say Alexa, i know who you are. She never responded
Not sure what i did wrong....I been in the business for over 20 years nothing but a gentlemen. ......just had tell my story
Sorry to hear of this......I think it's just the "hobby"......nothing like it was years ago. IMHO there used to be more "mature" ladies (of all ages) who were responsible. Even the agencies have gotten stupid.....where's Rose when we need her? Rates vs. quality don't add up in my mind. Probably just an image of society as a whole, but with the exception of a few "old" friends, I'm pretty must done. Guys BS in reviews, unreliable providers, tons of druggies out there, out of state scammers all over the place.......Yeah...I know.....there's some quality out there if 400 + seems reasonable to you......I'm old, and it doesn't. Again, sorry to hear.....was thinking of seeing her too.....oh well.
I can assure you that when a gentleman is polite, respects my time, and has good hygiene, there are never any issues between him and I.
The poster and I have a long standing history but recently there have been a few....issues I'd prefer not to air out in public at his expense
This comment is not meant in any way to impugn the provider concerned in the original post.
But replying to Richrass directly, I agree with you. But I have also had the experience of many 400+ providers having the "sniffles", erratic behavior, unable to focus, shifty eyes, etc. While I suspect some guys may enjoy the drugs I am not one of them and the amount of providers who are using is quite significant. I am not much for the hobby anymore either because of it.
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If your curiosity was getting the best of you and you wanted to know why I had moved you to my DNS list in the first place, you could have asked me instead of trying to bash me in an open forum. I apologize if your feelings are hurt, but I stopped seeing you for a specific reason. You knew I would no longer see you months ago, when I was using the name Alexa. When I changed my name and website, because I was being harassed by some loser, you popped up again without letting me know who you were. You didn't say you were xxxx, you booked an appointment with me like you were a new client. While you were discussing directions with me, something in my spidey senses just didn't feel right, and then I questioned you. It wasn't until then that you told me who you were. I politely told you how that made me feel uncomfortable (and given the fact that you knew I would not be seeing you anymore, I have reason for that to make me uncomfortable), and you said you understood.
If I choose not to spend time with somebody, that is my choice. Yes, you are a nice enough gentleman but for reasons I will not air out on a public forum, I felt like I was not enjoying our time together. In situations like those, I make the decision to separate myself from that person so we both don't waste our time with something we are not being satisfied in.
Also, if you are upset that I would have to ask you to let me know who you are, I'm sorry? I don't save phone numbers in my phone unless I am explicitly asked to do so. You never asked me to do that. This is for your discretion and safety. While contacting me, you would simply tell me your first name. I have a few gentlemen by that first name that I spend time with, but once you would clarify with your race/age, I would know it was you. Once again, if you had wanted me to save your information, you could have asked. Easy fix.
If you are still having issues as to why I would not see you any longer, you can privately email me. I have no issues discussing these reasons with you in private. However, this is not high school and I am not looking to embarrass anybody in public
I will not go round and round like this is high school, sorry if you feel I publicly bashed you. For record, a couple of times when i tried to see and our schedules did not mesh and you did not know who I was through text. ..i even made a comment that you did not have my number locked in and you told me that you would lock it in. Next I was never on your DNS list, if i got on it. .I never informed, especially since i had seen you over several times and a couple months before this encounter. And again that last night, since you greeted me like you knew who I.....i did not think i had to tell you who I was.
BIGGEEP it's clear she does not want to see you anymore for whatever reason.
Just move on and enjoy the other highly rated providers in this area.
You have a lot of great choices in this town too!
I did to let you know this was no wham bam thing. The last couple of times I saw her age was getting flaky, asking me so I was, had we met before. Granted she changed her number several times. I would Jaffe to refresh her memory and or send pic..he respond was how are you doing honey. Told me she would lock my number in. Well fry to see her and we set up a time in Scottsdale, drove to locationand text and called with no reply. Called and text several times. Finally gave up. .giving her benefit of doubt because our past, text her the next day. Told me she had family emergency. .NEVER apologize or said i would make up. .just left at that.
About a month ago I tried to see her again, she had change name to nikkiscott..being in this business a while. .i figured it was a reason. Ask was she available, this was around 2....she replied hi honey, nice to hear from you. ...and said yes. .when. Told her I got off at 5, so around 630.
The weird part....i got near the location, texted her. ..and she asked me what did I look like and my race. .told her I was AA..her reply is that i am not seeing African Americans. ...i replied is me, gave name. And we have seen each other at least 8 times in past 9 months. .she said, oh I am not really seeing you now because you did not tell me who you were.
I informed her with the name...and she said hi honey nice to hear from you I assumed she knew and changed names and hid her face for a reason and did want to come out and say Alexa, i know who you are. She never responded
Not sure what i did wrong....I been in the business for over 20 years nothing but a gentlemen. ......just had tell my story
This is not the place to discuss whatever is going on here. Have some class and just let it go...
I called her once there was a guy who answered the phone.
Also "family business" is a code word pimps use to have their providers say they are with their "pimp family" which means they are otherwise unavailable.
Also "family business" is a code word pimps use to have their providers say they are with their "pimp family" which means they are otherwise unavailable.
If this isn't the place for hobbyists to discuss such things, what is? I thought that's why TER exists? Unfortunately it's become a place where providers harass hobbyists and complain about getting bad reviews. Then overly protective hobbyists try to silence others who don't say things the "right way". I didn't see his post as trying to disparage Nikki, I saw it mostly as a guy who didn't understand and was seeking understanding the best way he could. Maybe it wasn't the best, but what other options are there? That being said if the provider isn't calling you back and seems to be ignoring you, presume she is and doesn't want to see you. Or you could just ask her straight up if she doesn't think it's a good fit. I think most providers want it to be a positive experience all the way around.
As for this particular provider, she posted that she is leaving Phoenix in a couple of weeks anyway so it's a moot point. Of course she is right that she has a choice on who she wants to see and who she doesn't. And if she didn't want to see me I would respect that and move on.
Thank you, if i told this story and did not give a name. I would have been blasted. When did this not become the right place?
I have seen several people come on here and compassion about providers without giving names and first repose is, who was it?
After she said what she said to me that night. I explain to her why i did not say who i was, and told her if she did not want to see me i would not contact her again and haven't.
As for this particular provider, she posted that she is leaving Phoenix in a couple of weeks anyway so it's a moot point. Of course she is right that she has a choice on who she wants to see and who she doesn't. And if she didn't want to see me I would respect that and move on.
Great point and a good question to ask? Why are alias' provided? Then when someone uses one (as I am) they are considered to be hiding. What hypocrisy. All the providers hide behind fake names already and many of them want to verify us with our real names.
Then if someone asks real questions on a board they are blasted. Where else are you going to ask? At least you now have your answer from Nikki. And I don't think her answer makes her look bad. She had an issue with you. Ok, fair enough. I think we all get it because it's happened to all of us. Now it's done with. Now you know. No need to hate on you and tell you it's not the place. There is no other place!
There was no reason for you to name the provider here on a national board.
You should have work your problems out between the two of you by email, phone
or as others said just move on.
You said that you saw her several times and always enjoyed your time with her.
Some thing changed and she doesn't want to see you again. That doesn't make her a bad provider.
Now after you bashed her here how do you plan on apologizing to her.
Plus some of the providers that may have read your post may not want to see
you after seeing the way you acted here.
That's just my 2 cents.
PS: Be thankful that she did not say anything to embarrass you.
So basically you are saying a provider on two separate occasions can set something up with you, you give them the benefit of doubt the first time because of your relationship with them. ....you basically waste over 6 hours of your time and you should apologize. You gonna miss me with that. Even the AA thing i glossed over. ...if you don't see AA, why not put that in your ad (saves your time and theirs, hopefully) or why not ask that on the intial contact. ..things to thing about. Btw, since i have seen several times. ..don't think that was the issue...unless it became one. ....communication is the key.
Not sure if you read my message, again there was NEVER A time in the past year that she even hinted she did not want to see me. I have been in this business a long time and s great reputation......I was regular with TLC (Taylor Lynn), Jordan K, Madison, Mya, Gina, and if any of them read this would vouch for me in a heart beat.
I never once said she was a bad person, things happen. ...you treat people like you expect to get treated. Providers want us to show up on time, heck show up. ..if we don't we are black balled. ....but i bet most guys would say half the Providers they see are not on time or ready when they get there. I went to see someone a while back and thought i would be 5 minutes late. ..I called...she thank me for my consideration.
The whole point of my post, what do you do when your regular goes left on you?
Yeah your two cents, is not what is was worth 50 years ago
It seems like every time there is the least bit of criticism of a provider someone jumps down the throat of the OP.
I think that's what these boards are for and we should feel free to talk about providers and our experience, but it's not something that we can put into a review. Perhaps other guys also have had bad experiences as well?
So I wonder how many times when someone bashes a OP about talking about a provider is it their pimp, or boyfriend or wanna be boyfriend? Or a representative from an agency?
This is a business. Go on Yelp and see what people post about businesses. If the provider can't handle it too bad. After all they only want one thing and that's our money anyway. All of you guys trying to protect them like they are innocent little sheep are deluding yourselves. There aren't real relationships here. It's P4P and nothing more.
So true. I keep track of people who behave like this on the boards and steer clear of men who cause drama. Nobody wants to deal with a man who vented by publicly discussing you on the boards first without communicating with the provider behind closed doors.
I've stopped responding to or seeing certain past clients as well for specific reasons because I prefer to not offend the man. Sometimes telling a client the exact truth could hurt their feelings so it is kinder to leave things unsaid.
Once a hobbyist has done that to me on the boards, I am officially done seeing them ever again. It could've been dealt with in a more mature and respectful manner, but it wasn't.
Thanks CallofBooty for the reply. I'm sure a lot more providers feel like you do and that's why they have stopped posting here. And the guys wonder where they went.
My last response. This board use to be a place where we could discuss stuff. I saw this woman close to 10 times, so obviously we had a business connection. If you go to your favorite restaurant and have one bad experience. ..you may toss it out as a bad night. ..another one, you might ask what's going on. ..I bet everyone on here has had a great place to go and then suddenly something was off. I had nothing and i will repeat great EXPERIENCES with her up until the last months. ..This is not the first provider,that either did not show up or answer their phone when i arrived at the location...in my 18 years I probably had 95% good experiences......that's why i look for a regulars.
I had provider say they did not want to see me because of race, I kept it moving. ..and said oh well i will spend my money else where. One did not like my build, one ask for a picture. ...one I was to old, to young ....but you know what. ..they did not waste my time. They did not let me plan something for hours, waste my gas, my time and say oh I can't see you. That's the action I am upset with. ...I have no problem not being seen by anyone. ..don't waste my time or others time. Jeez, if you defend that actions. ...I don't know what to say about you. Take everything else away. ..somebody wasted the other person's time.
I've stopped responding to or seeing certain past clients as well for specific reasons because I prefer to not offend the man. Sometimes telling a client the exact truth could hurt their feelings so it is kinder to leave things unsaid.
Once a hobbyist has done that to me on the boards, I am officially done seeing them ever again. It could've been dealt with in a more mature and respectful manner, but it wasn't.
Happens every day. Your making a fool of your self by begging her to come back.
Plus dragging her thought the mud isn't making you friends.
Now I know most the ladies you mention why don't you call one of them.
I'm sure there've as much fun today as the were yesterday.
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Kudos to Nikki for responding in a professional manner with good grammar and punctuation when she didn't need to chime in at all. I'm being serious. Many people cannot write well, my view has changed on Canadian schools.
No I'm not a pimp, boyfriend or ever been a client. I do like her attitude though.
I think this is a good point. I have no knowledge of, nor opinion regarding Canadian schools; but I think the one-sided professionalism seen in this thread is commendable.