Phoenix

I know what she meant and I even allowed for that...confused_smile
BigGQinAZ 5 Reviews 705 reads
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when I wrote, "...were she to 'stumble across' the industry elsewhere or through 'a friend'..."

Think of it this way:   Let's say I was a closet skydiver, a veteran of many jumps and accomplished within the activity but had been keeping it from my teenage children.  One day, my daughter comes home at age 20 all excited about having done her first tandem jump, and swearing that she's going to get her license and "turn pro" at some point.  Why WOULDN'T I offer to teach her myself, show her the ropes, tutor her in the dangers, and direct her career to the best equipment, jump sites, and instructors—and away from the biggest dangers and temptations?  Who better to do that than her own parent, an experienced jumper himself?  Julia and I were in agreement right up until that point, when she took it into Stupidville on two fronts:

First, she wrote that she wouldn't allow her daughter to do it to pay for school.  Given the motivations of some providers (drugs, alcohol, extreme debt, toxic relationships, and unwed teen parenthood), I can think of far worse things to pay for with the proceeds of hard work, even hard work as a provider.

Secondly, she wrote that she'd pay for her daughter's schooling—from the proceeds of her own sex work—before she'd ever allow her daughter to escort in order to pay for her own education.  WTF?  THAT's a double-standard, it's illogical, and it's the definition of hypocrisy, i.e. rendering "outrage" over an activity in which she regularly engages, purely because she wants to limit another legal adult from also doing it.

As parents, we want the best for our children.  I completely agree that I wouldn't actively encourage my daughter to become an escort.  But neither would I demean, insult, or question the motives of another parent who felt differently—based upon his belief that ANY profession (garbage collector, janitor) to which one applies their best efforts can be an honorable means of paying for an education.  The hypocrites (hobbyists and providers) who were judging him had no place doing so, and are best served by looking in their own mirrors at their own past and current actions.  

Paco isn't ashamed of paying for sex—or of others who do, or those of you who provide it.  Obviously, the same can't be said of his accusers.

Ok, my daughter is 20 and trying to earn money to go to back to school.   I told her she should look into working as an escort because she could make good money.  She lives at home so could save a lot.

Anyway my question is should she apply to work at an agency or just be an independent?  Also what advice would you give someone starting out brand new?  My wife thinks this could be dangerous for her but I assured her that if common sense is used escorting is perfectly safe.  

Appreciate any input.  Thanks!

Come on now.  There cant be degenerates like this out there that want to pimp out their own daughter

I'm surprised your daughter hasn't disowned you and that your wife didn't file for divorce.  Terrible idea.

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And I will show you how it's done. Dumb ass

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I guess I'm confused. I'll admit seeing a father asking about opportunities for sex work for his daughter is unsettling on a base level, but at the same time if you view sex work to be a legitimate occupation for women when they willingly choose it, why is there universal negative reaction from both hobbyists and providers alike to the question?

I'll assume he's a troll but the question asked was simply what is the best approach to doing business when being a sex worker.  

I'll make an admittedly apples to oranges comparison here but consider this. If a father asked about the best way for his son to find work in a coal mine where the work is difficult and dangerous as well as offering low pay, no one here would bat an eye, but when it's about his daughter and sex work he is automatically a villain or a pervert? Both professions carry substantial risk but only one can be extremely profitable when done correctly.    

If you view sex work as somehow inherently harmful to woman then why do you engage in it either offering it or worse yet purchasing it if doing so is irreparably harming the woman being engaged? Remember every lady you have seen is someones little girl.

Admittedly I wouldn't want to know my daughter was a provider but if you find yourself having a negative response to the thought of your own daughter being a provider then how can you square that with you seeing one yourself.  

It seems to me that most here would like to see sex work become legitimized and safer for all who want to either provide it or purchase it so why then attack someone who's asking about the best way to approach it? If you think sex work isn't dirty or demeaning then why does it matter if it's her father asking the question? Why the puritan attitude now?

Excellent riposte...

The simple answer is we are all sex addicts and we rationalize our actions in anyway that makes sense to get laid, watch porn, etc. etc. Our brains are numb for rationalization and once we stand outside the box and think about what we are doing - we can all see for ourselves of what most of us are - hypocrites and addicts.

This is a moral question - and most of our moral compasses are very disoriented. Porn/Sex addiction is more about avoidance, numbing pain, and boredom than it is about sex. There are enough valid research available on this in the past several years, just Google "your brain on porn" to find out how our brain works and get introduced to Dopamine if you have not hard about it before.  

Anyhow, getting back to the original question - agency have more risk with respect to attracting LE. Would recommend to start as an Independent and use P411 and other services to ensure proper verification. Why am giving this advise? Because I am addicted to sex and I am not thinking straight.

Posted By: Eggs_over_easy
I guess I'm confused. I'll admit seeing a father asking about opportunities for sex work for his daughter is unsettling on a base level, but at the same time if you view sex work to be a legitimate occupation for women when they willingly choose it, why is there universal negative reaction from both hobbyists and providers alike to the question?  
   
 I'll assume he's a troll but the question asked was simply what is the best approach to doing business when being a sex worker.  
   
 I'll make an admittedly apples to oranges comparison here but consider this. If a father asked about the best way for his son to find work in a coal mine where the work is difficult and dangerous as well as offering low pay, no one here would bat an eye, but when it's about his daughter and sex work he is automatically a villain or a pervert? Both professions carry substantial risk but only one can be extremely profitable when done correctly.    
   
 If you view sex work as somehow inherently harmful to woman then why do you engage in it either offering it or worse yet purchasing it if doing so is irreparably harming the woman being engaged? Remember every lady you have seen is someones little girl.  
   
 Admittedly I wouldn't want to know my daughter was a provider but if you find yourself having a negative response to the thought of your own daughter being a provider then how can you square that with you seeing one yourself.  
   
 It seems to me that most here would like to see sex work become legitimized and safer for all who want to either provide it or purchase it so why then attack someone who's asking about the best way to approach it? If you think sex work isn't dirty or demeaning then why does it matter if it's her father asking the question? Why the puritan attitude now?

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Well said!  

Posted By: ItsHotOutHere
Excellent riposte...  
   
 The simple answer is we are all sex addicts and we rationalize our actions in anyway that makes sense to get laid, watch porn, etc. etc. Our brains are numb for rationalization and once we stand outside the box and think about what we are doing - we can all see for ourselves of what most of us are - hypocrites and addicts.  
   
 This is a moral question - and most of our moral compasses are very disoriented. Porn/Sex addiction is more about avoidance, numbing pain, and boredom than it is about sex. There are enough valid research available on this in the past several years, just Google "your brain on porn" to find out how our brain works and get introduced to Dopamine if you have not hard about it before.  
   
 Anyhow, getting back to the original question - agency have more risk with respect to attracting LE. Would recommend to start as an Independent and use P411 and other services to ensure proper verification. Why am giving this advise? Because I am addicted to sex and I am not thinking straight

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Posted By: paco1980
Ok, my daughter is 20 and trying to earn money to go to back to school.   I told her she should look into working as an escort because she could make good money.  She lives at home so could save a lot.  
   
 Anyway my question is should she apply to work at an agency or just be an independent?  Also what advice would you give someone starting out brand new?  My wife thinks this could be dangerous for her but I assured her that if common sense is used escorting is perfectly safe.    
   
 Appreciate any input.  Thanks!

I'm sorry this is some funny shit!

"Daddy!  Daddy! I have a case of Gonorrhea!"

"Well baby, put it in the fridge. Anything is better than Bud Light!"

I am prob feeding the Pervy little troll but this is wrong. If my dad ever suggested I become a provider well that would be WRONG. The thing is my dad would NEVER suggest I do this for a living. I would never tell anyone to do this. You make the choice on your own. It isn't for everyone. With all the positives comes negatives.  

  I do hope this is a joke because Daddy went too far.

Hello Paco,

While I disagree with your premise, I applaud your right to ask the question as you did.  Here's my contribution to the discussion, albeit a few days late...

http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=109318&boardID=5&page=#109318

BigGQ

Posted By: BigGQinAZ
Hello Paco,  
   
 While I disagree with your premise, I applaud your right to ask the question as you did.  Here's my contribution to the discussion, albeit a few days late...  
   
 http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=109318&boardID=5&page=#109318  
   
 BigGQ
Thank you for your contribution Sir.  Unlike the others here you are no HYPOCRITE.  Nothing wrong with being a provider in my view.  It is an honorable line of work and can be both helpful to others as well as enjoyable.    

My daughter is a legal adult and I feel being a provider will not only earn her good money for her education but teach her much about human nature and the world in general.  And if she gets to enjoy some sex while providing i say good for her!  Nothing wrong with that either.  

To read providers and their customers vilifying me for suggesting my daughter do something they all are doing makes me quite sad that this community has so many self hating people who are ashamed of what they do.  Cowards and losers!

if my daughter does become a provider I hope one day she can hold her head up high and say to anyone who asks, "yep, I provided and am damn proud of it!"

Posted By: paco1980
 
   
Posted By: BigGQinAZ
Hello Paco,  
     
  While I disagree with your premise, I applaud your right to ask the question as you did.  Here's my contribution to the discussion, albeit a few days late...  
     
  http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=109318&boardID=5&page=#109318  
     
  BigGQ
   
 Thank you for your contribution Sir.  Unlike the others here you are no HYPOCRITE.  Nothing wrong with being a provider in my view.  It is an honorable line of work and can be both helpful to others as well as enjoyable.    
   
 My daughter is a legal adult and I feel being a provider will not only earn her good money for her education but teach her much about human nature and the world in general.  And if she gets to enjoy some sex while providing i say good for her!  Nothing wrong with that either.    
   
 To read providers and their customers vilifying me for suggesting my daughter do something they all are doing makes me quite sad that this community has so many self hating people who are ashamed of what they do.  Cowards and losers!  
   
 if my daughter does become a provider I hope one day she can hold her head up high and say to anyone who asks, "yep, I provided and am damn proud of it!"

Why no?  What is so wrong with a young woman being a provider?  Great money in it!

And really getting involved in her sexual actions? Just not a good idea IMO. Also, with the rates the providers seen in the reviews, some of those girls are $80/hour. I dont think a dad seeing ladies at that rate can truly guide a young woman to do it safely.

As much as I don't judge based on rates, I was $180/hour my first two weeks, offering $60 QV's. Do you know what kind of clients that brings in?

The one good client I had refused to pay me less than $250/hour with a hundred dollar tip.

Also those rates attracted a ton of pimps trying to get me to work for them for more. Luckily I was 30 years old, and could smell that BS . but a 20 year old with no life experience?  

Tread carefully. Anything happens to her, your ass is on the line. I can guarantee that.

You've got to be kidding me.  The biggest scam there is out there is that providers are charging too much and these high priced providers believe they are better than lower ones.  Some of the best girls out there charge $60 qv and $100 hh.  

Plus in Germany or Amsterdam the girls only charge $50 and they are several levels better than the $500 providers in the USA.

If I had a daughter I could not encourage her to enter this industry.

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