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Re: Did she ask you for references?
locutus 68 Reviews 671 reads
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Posted By: emilypaige
Regardless of # vouches, WL, okays you have, if there were no reference checks or due diligence from her end and she's talking about specific P4P activities;  that's an indication your dealing with nieve,  careless,  stupid or worse.    
   
 Just the fact that you're asking opinions about being "safe" is enough reason to shop elsewhere.  
   
 
No she didnt, thats what I was thinking, just too many red flags for me, she keeps saying she has comments on p411 with reviews, but its not a review site from what I understand, you can just link to other review sites, she said she would skype me, but I am just too nervous now so until some TER reviews show up I dont think I  am taking one for the team as of now

Curious if anyone knows anything about her, she has 0 reviews, 1 alias, and I noticed when cross checking the phone # came up with multiple backpage ads closely dated together in three different states.  She texts me back and forth, should I be concerned?  Can LE pose on P411?  Should I ask her for refs?  I have oks, she has an ad.  I'm getting nervous about meeting up now...

Posted By: locutus
Curious if anyone knows anything about her, she has 0 reviews, 1 alias, and I noticed when cross checking the phone # came up with multiple backpage ads closely dated together in three different states.  She texts me back and forth, should I be concerned?  Can LE pose on P411?  Should I ask her for refs?  I have oks, she has an ad.  I'm getting nervous about meeting up now...
400 bones is a lot of money, but if you have it to risk, she looks like a hot little piece! Just remember to not discuss sex for money and you should be ok. It sounds like you've already been in contact with her. If you haven't made any mistakes in your communications so far, I say go for it. She's on my side of town so if she turns out be a keeper, I'll go see her myself. But I'll let you do the leg work😃😃

Err I did kinda say fs in a msg on p411's system, her hh rate is much less.  What do u think I should do now?

If you've got a good vibe from her AND you can sample the half hour, I say go for it. And let us know how it went.

Posted By: locutus
Curious if anyone knows anything about her, she has 0 reviews, 1 alias, and I noticed when cross checking the phone # came up with multiple backpage ads closely dated together in three different states.  She texts me back and forth, should I be concerned?  Can LE pose on P411?  Should I ask her for refs?  I have oks, she has an ad.  I'm getting nervous about meeting up now...

She doesn't seem fake, but I'm just super cautious as no reviews on here, she talked about the acts themselves in our msgs which I thought was strange, stupid or bold.  As of now I'm putting it on hold.  She seems to only post in the body rub section on BP.

Posted By: daddio15422
If you've got a good vibe from her AND you can sample the half hour, I say go for it. And let us know how it went.  
   
Posted By: locutus
Curious if anyone knows anything about her, she has 0 reviews, 1 alias, and I noticed when cross checking the phone # came up with multiple backpage ads closely dated together in three different states.  She texts me back and forth, should I be concerned?  Can LE pose on P411?  Should I ask her for refs?  I have oks, she has an ad.  I'm getting nervous about meeting up now...

Just my two cents, but I wouldn't take one for the team without some kind of references.  

You can always contact P411 and ask them about her. Their people are very friendly and want to help. They could probably give you how they verified her.

all they said was is that she is verified by a established reviewer or a established provider p 411 provider in one of her messages to me on P 411 she specifically stated types of services should I be concerned

Posted By: locutus
all they said was is that she is verified by a established reviewer or a established provider p 411 provider in one of her messages to me on P 411 she specifically stated types of services should I be concerned
Unfortunately, I think you may want look elsewhere. She seems to be too careless.

Is she from somewhere else? If so she could be on another board

Regardless of # vouches, WL, okays you have, if there were no reference checks or due diligence from her end and she's talking about specific P4P activities;  that's an indication your dealing with nieve,  careless,  stupid or worse.  

Just the fact that you're asking opinions about being "safe" is enough reason to shop elsewhere

Posted By: emilypaige
Regardless of # vouches, WL, okays you have, if there were no reference checks or due diligence from her end and she's talking about specific P4P activities;  that's an indication your dealing with nieve,  careless,  stupid or worse.    
   
 Just the fact that you're asking opinions about being "safe" is enough reason to shop elsewhere.  
   
 
No she didnt, thats what I was thinking, just too many red flags for me, she keeps saying she has comments on p411 with reviews, but its not a review site from what I understand, you can just link to other review sites, she said she would skype me, but I am just too nervous now so until some TER reviews show up I dont think I  am taking one for the team as of now

It looks like you have seen enough ladies to know what feels right. She's probably fine but if you get a bad feeling, pass on by her and see someone else.  
 I also have to say that you have seen enough ladies that you should know better than to ask anything that could be taken as offering money for sex. If she's at all concerned for her safety she should have broken off communications with you when you asked about FS, acronyms and code words are no different than asking bluntly if she will fuck you for cash and is the same thing LE would ask her.

true, but at one time p411 used to list all these things in the services section, mostly because youre verified, so with that said, I used the p411r system so I let go a little with the bluntness.  I will say that even though I have seen some ladies, it is still a learning process, and with agencies it is so much easier in my opinion, but the adventurous side of me wanders to p411 and sometimes even BP to try my luck.  I have been burned before and upselled, and mostly it is those experiences that makes me ask questions.  I still have some learning to do apparently

There's a big difference between her advertising it and you asking for it. If you ever find yourself in the uncomfortable presence of LE you will be in a much better position if they don't have a recording or email from you talking about sex in exchange for money, prosecutors love it when guys incriminate themselves.  
 Personally I avoid agencies because they are bigger targets and taking one down makes bigger headlines in these times when they like to claim everyone is being trafficked. Careful, well reviewed independent providers on P411 is where I feel the safest.

duly noted

Posted By: DJ1985
There's a big difference between her advertising it and you asking for it. If you ever find yourself in the uncomfortable presence of LE you will be in a much better position if they don't have a recording or email from you talking about sex in exchange for money, prosecutors love it when guys incriminate themselves.  
  Personally I avoid agencies because they are bigger targets and taking one down makes bigger headlines in these times when they like to claim everyone is being trafficked. Careful, well reviewed independent providers on P411 is where I feel the safest.

This is just my opinion, take it for what it's worth. I have dealt with all levels of providers. And, yes, there are some that just get your juices flowing & and you tend to favor them. But, if your sensing something wrong and there are inconsistantsies in the provider's behavior, those "Red Flags" alone should tell you to steer clear of her. Afterall, LE is not the only ones that can ruin your night. You just might be getting set up for something else. (Please excuse the spelling) I personally would find another provider.  
 

Posted By: emilypaige
Regardless of # vouches, WL, okays you have, if there were no reference checks or due diligence from her end and she's talking about specific P4P activities;  that's an indication your dealing with nieve,  careless,  stupid or worse.    
   
 Just the fact that you're asking opinions about being "safe" is enough reason to shop elsewhere.  
   
 

TER might as well print a catalog and mail it out for the folks who hate computers. lol

Too many fishes in the ocean, I would have passed her up without any verifiable reviews

The thrill of the hunt is what always motivates me.  She's either a gem or something else is up.

I've seen her, she is what she says she is! Exactly what I was looking for for my evening . Very tiny very nice body , very much a sweetheart , made me feel very comfortable and didn't rush me at all. We went over the time and she didn't charge me big A + for this little tattooed hottie!!!

Posted By: locutus
Curious if anyone knows anything about her, she has 0 reviews, 1 alias, and I noticed when cross checking the phone # came up with multiple backpage ads closely dated together in three different states.  She texts me back and forth, should I be concerned?  Can LE pose on P411?  Should I ask her for refs?  I have oks, she has an ad.  I'm getting nervous about meeting up now...

Where's the review??  Or any reviews from you...

Posted By: Carved13
I've seen her, she is what she says she is! Exactly what I was looking for for my evening . Very tiny very nice body , very much a sweetheart , made me feel very comfortable and didn't rush me at all. We went over the time and she didn't charge me big A + for this little tattooed hottie!!!  
   
Posted By: locutus
Curious if anyone knows anything about her, she has 0 reviews, 1 alias, and I noticed when cross checking the phone # came up with multiple backpage ads closely dated together in three different states.  She texts me back and forth, should I be concerned?  Can LE pose on P411?  Should I ask her for refs?  I have oks, she has an ad.  I'm getting nervous about meeting up now...

Just what I was thinking

Posted By: CaramelBBW
Where's the review??  Or any reviews from you...  
   
Posted By: Carved13
I've seen her, she is what she says she is! Exactly what I was looking for for my evening . Very tiny very nice body , very much a sweetheart , made me feel very comfortable and didn't rush me at all. We went over the time and she didn't charge me big A + for this little tattooed hottie!!!  
     
Posted By: locutus
Curious if anyone knows anything about her, she has 0 reviews, 1 alias, and I noticed when cross checking the phone # came up with multiple backpage ads closely dated together in three different states.  She texts me back and forth, should I be concerned?  Can LE pose on P411?  Should I ask her for refs?  I have oks, she has an ad.  I'm getting nervous about meeting up now...

Review to come. I don't usually review, been on the boards for a while now, mostly just to get info for myself. Understand if it's hard to use my word of mouth as a good source for correct information but I assure you she is the real deal.

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