This topic gets brought up every once in a awhile and no one is ever satisfied on either side of the debate. Here is a link describing one provider's reason for not seeing black men. Hers is one point of view and I'm sure other ladies have their own reasons but the simple reality is that the hobby is the free market at it's best and it's worst. If you dont like whats being offered, or not offered, shop somewhere else.
Do black providers have the same issues?
While visiting a new provider I asked about "no black guys" in her ad.. she said her pussy was too small...(it was in fact pretty tight) is this the reason so many ads read no Blacks?
Do black providers have the same issues?
There are many providers that simply have a bias towards black men. I am from the Midwest and I have not seen anything like this, including the South. We all have filter, biases, and prejudices, but damn! I hate to see "NO BLACKS!!!!!" in the ads like African American men are a pariah.
We all can make our own choices in this hobby.
The providers that single out a whole group of people are giving into their own fears and insecurities.
I wonder if all white men act the same or do the same things?
This way of thinking is so backwards and no group of people act the same way.
Also those providers that place ads like this need to look in the mirror at themselves!
Do black providers have the same issues?
Was new to me too, and from what I've been told it's a couple of reasons.
The main one being that black guys tend to be more disrespectful towards them. That's followed by complaints of being more rough and constantly pushing boundaries. I've also been told it's because some of the regular clients of a provider will stop seeing the provider if they've(provider) been with a black guy.
I was told those stereotypes too.
Also when you hear a provider talk about choice and then they do these types of ads.
Just makes you wonder if she is making the choice herself or letting the pressure from small minded people make the decisions for her and her business.
So I don't believe every white guy is a serial killer or Asian woman just want to please white men.
The more you hear these types of stupid stereotypes and others it just makes you shake your head
It's not just the white women who put that in their ads. About the same percentage of black women have it in their ads also. In addition to black guys tending to be more disrespectful, they are more likely to be pimps who are trying to recruit. I've never thought about this being a racial thing. It's safety!
I have gotten many msgs from white men inquiring as to if I date black men (I guess they assume that because I'm a BBW that I get a lot of love from the brothers). When I get a msg like this, I of course answer ABSOLUTELY but I already know how it ends... With some sort of racial slur followed by the word "lover"(I'm sure you can fill in the blank).
It's amazing how ignorant we are as whole, not only about race.
IMO if a lady does her screening, taking race into account is absolutely not necessary. In this business it is extremely important to look at each person as an individual. Getting to know your clients IS your business!!
Do black providers have the same issues?
it is the providers business, so who gives a fuck what hobbyist think! Get over this PC shit! When hobbyist stop fucking young pretty hot body providers and fuck 60+ hairy BBBW providers then you can say shit, but until that happens STFU! Providers can choose to see or not see any clientele they choose.
Hey what's wrong with a hairy 60+ bbw? Know one let me know 
That would be my ex, ex-wife!
People are people. Everyone has particular likes and dislikes. Some of us have the luxury or integrity to be selective.
Personally I applaud anyone who makes the choice not to compromise their personal preferences simply because of peer pressure or the accusations of not being PC.
Bakeries don't want to make wedding cakes for gay couples and they get the shit beat out of them in the media. It's their business. If a prospective customer doesn't like their procedures, don't shop there. Chick Filet takes Sunday off to spend time with family, rest and worship if they choose. OMG!!!! How dare they proclaim their belief in worship. Don't eat there if you are offended.
Speaking for me personally, I could have website content that states if I have to lift more than 2 feet of fat off your lap to pry your cock out and give a bobbing for apples blow job then I don't want to see you. I don't think I'd get much flack. But God forbid if I had content that stated I would prefer not to entertain Hasidic Jews, no Muslims, no American black men. Then I'd be a racist.
It's no ones concern why a person makes decisions for not wanting to share mutual pleasures with certain types of inquiring clients. They are doing potential customers a favor by stating it up front. Stop trying to impose judgments as to why a procedure is created. Just move on. Seriously, I do not comprehend how people have the time to argue or take personal insult about a specific business practice unless they are part owner or investor.
People who want to influence personal beliefs of others remind me of little kids banging on their high chair tray because no one is paying enough attention to them or they are not getting what they want.
News flash, you don't always get what you want. Get over it. Move on.
I don't do doubles with black or Asian midget couples. I won't see white guys w/ leprosy. Don't agree w/ my policy, don't shop at my store.
So yes everybody can decided for themselves who they want to see and not see in this hobby.
The problem is when some providers do this from their own racial insecurities or others around them.
When you put a group of people in the same category without even checking out their background.
Then it looks foolish and hypocritical.
Since most providers themselves or other groups of people don't want that done to them!
I been having a great time in this hobby but when I hear stuff like this it makes you wonder about those providers.
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running their business the way they want and you are a dumbass liberal FIDIOT! If you are so high and mighty, post using your handle instead of an alias.
Dude, you're such an idiot for talking about "racial insecurities". You're making a BIG assumption! I think most providers make the statement regarding not seeing blacks for safety reasons. News Flash: Black guys commit more crimes!! There is a lot higher probability that a provider is going to get beat up by a black guy than anyone else. Why would a provider go out of their way to subject themselves to higher risk?
Hey, I clearly get individuals can choose what they will and will not do. But tell me...how many ads are written that single out Hasidic Jews, Asians, Muslims, etc?
And Guess what? You can worship a cabbage if you want to. But as a member of society in general, not your cabbage sub-culture in particular, you will be judge on your norms. That's why many folks have private country clubs and the like. No, I'm not losing sleep over this, but in your lifetime African Americans were barred from voting and marrying interracially in this country. I'm glad some of those that came before me were brave enough to ask why.
I won't associate with White Supremicists. You are correct. I'm racist. I'll hang out at that country club though. What would that be assocating with racists or stereotypes?
Cheers to Ghandi, chastity and syadvad!
And Guess what? You can worship a cabbage if you want to. But as a member of society in general, not your cabbage sub-culture in particular, you will be judge on your norms. That's why many folks have private country clubs and the like. No, I'm not losing sleep over this, but in your lifetime African Americans were barred from voting and marrying interracially in this country. I'm glad some of those that came before me were brave enough to ask why.
Cheers to Ghandi, chastity and syadvad!
And Guess what? You can worship a cabbage if you want to. But as a member of society in general, not your cabbage sub-culture in particular, you will be judge on your norms. That's why many folks have private country clubs and the like. No, I'm not losing sleep over this, but in your lifetime African Americans were barred from voting and marrying interracially in this country. I'm glad some of those that came before me were brave enough to ask why.
Who gives a shit what you racist card playing asshole thinks! FIDIOT!
I love it how people who disagree with logic always want to play the race card themselves!
It didn't. However I was not asking a question. But thanks for trying to impose your point of view.
Bottom line, people have the right to fuck who they want. If you don't approve of someone not being willing to fuck any and all then that is your problem. Not hers, not your brothers, not your sisters, no ones problem except for the one banging on their high chair tray.
There are better fires to fan than this bullshit.
I guess you were writing that last comment to make yourself feel better. LOL
So I already mention that providers have a choice to sleep with who they want just like us hobbyists.
Just know that it's too many great choices in providers to worry about close minded ones like you.
Thanks for your comment it was fun reading your bullshit!
Bottom line, people have the right to fuck who they want. If you don't approve of someone not being willing to fuck any and all then that is your problem. Not hers, not your brothers, not your sisters, no ones problem except for the one banging on their high chair tray.
There are better fires to fan than this bullshit.
course you are WRONG! Tired of you liberal assholes who always play the "racist" card for shit that is not racist. All you dumbassholes liberals see is race in every little thing. Always judging everyone else. Get a fucking life. FIDIOT!!
The providers that don't care about this subject.
I focus in and enjoy those types of ladies.
Just like it's a provider choice to say yes or no to a hobbyist.
We as hobbyist have so many choices to do the same thing.
Also by the way my life is good! Lol
I like the cut of your jib.
I very, very, rarely see strangers or anyone under 30.
It's my choice.
Just like I'm sure there are females out there that wouldn't see someone as old as my 50-ish self.
It's there choice.
Like every thing we do, there are choices. Turn right after a rolling stop. Diet vs. Regular Dr. Pepper. Vote (R), (D), or not vote. Covered or bareback.
Ain't nobody's business but yours and the choices a person makes.
It's my choice.
Just like I'm sure there are females out there that wouldn't see someone as old as my 50-ish self.
It's there choice.
Like every thing we do, there are choices. Turn right after a rolling stop. Diet vs. Regular Dr. Pepper. Vote (R), (D), or not vote. Covered or bareback.
Ain't nobody's business but yours and the choices a person makes.
And the silly idea that discerning adults should have the choice to make in regards to the people they choose to associate with in a business relationship.
In my business, there are numerous State and Federal laws regulating my business. I still have the fiduciary responsibility to utilize my skills, abilities, logic, and experience to make an informed decision to protect myself, the stockholders, and the stakeholders of the business. Nobody forces me to treat everyone equal given the amount of facts, investigative leads, and intuition.
Same thing in her business. I'll support her choices and her decisions 1000%.
It's not Black and White. It's an infinite number of shades of Gray.
So she has the right to conduct her business the way she wants for herself.
Also those who disagree with these providers can speak out against their racist business practices too.
I don't worry about racist providers because there are so many choices.
It will not stop me at the same time calling out their racist business.
This is why freedom of choice goes both ways Dave.
In my business, there are numerous State and Federal laws regulating my business. I still have the fiduciary responsibility to utilize my skills, abilities, logic, and experience to make an informed decision to protect myself, the stockholders, and the stakeholders of the business. Nobody forces me to treat everyone equal given the amount of facts, investigative leads, and intuition.
Same thing in her business. I'll support her choices and her decisions 1000%.
It's not Black and White. It's an infinite number of shades of Gray.
Part of the compact that we call civilization is the agreement that we will abide by a set of common rules. In exchange we get the benefits of a civilized society. You want fire protection, police protection, sensible zoning laws, breathable air, etc.? Then you pay taxes, don't start fires, don't rob, etc. It's a pretty good trade.
By the same token if you want your business to get all the benefits of that same civilized society, e.g. roads on which your products can be delivered, ports and airports from which they can be shipped, police and fire protection, then in return you once again agree to play by the rules that go with those benefits, which might include not introducing your racial, religious or orientation prejudices into the stream of commerce. Feel free to practice them at your dinner table or in your poker game. But if you want to play with the adults you live with adult rules. Don't like those rules? Try to change them through the legislative process. Or feel free to move to a desert island.
As for a woman's choice of whom to fuck there really is a fundamental, absolute bright line difference between that and selling flowers and cakes. The exchange of money doesn't change the fact that walking into a store simply cannot rationally be equated to entering a woman's body. Her body her rules.
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When people choose ingornace that is their issue.
So me calling out their bullshit exposes the stupidity of their stance.
You and others can choose to defend it.
We are all making different choices as adults right now. Lol
The whole point is everybody can choose for themselves even racists!
By the same token if you want your business to get all the benefits of that same civilized society, e.g. roads on which your products can be delivered, ports and airports from which they can be shipped, police and fire protection, then in return you once again agree to play by the rules that go with those benefits, which might include not introducing your racial, religious or orientation prejudices into the stream of commerce. Feel free to practice them at your dinner table or in your poker game. But if you want to play with the adults you live with adult rules. Don't like those rules? Try to change them through the legislative process. Or feel free to move to a desert island.
As for a woman's choice of whom to fuck there really is a fundamental, absolute bright line difference between that and selling flowers and cakes. The exchange of money doesn't change the fact that walking into a store simply cannot rationally be equated to entering a woman's body. Her body her rules.
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This topic gets brought up every once in a awhile and no one is ever satisfied on either side of the debate. Here is a link describing one provider's reason for not seeing black men. Hers is one point of view and I'm sure other ladies have their own reasons but the simple reality is that the hobby is the free market at it's best and it's worst. If you dont like whats being offered, or not offered, shop somewhere else.
Do black providers have the same issues?
I know of two providers that do not see people from India. Reasons given to me:
1. Not sexually attracted to them
2. Hygiene: body hair, facial hair, uncut, bad breath etc.
i think a couple of bad experiences, either first or second hand, tends to create these biases. We just have to live with it. Everyone has our own biases from color of skin, to body type to hair/eye color, long legs, apple bottoms etc...
we learn to deal with it and move on, no need to question others prejudices, we all have ours....
I had a provider recently tell me that if you see a backpage ad that states "no black men" that she has understood that to mean that the girl might have a pimp or be part of a trafficking ring. Their "keeper" (for lack of better term) use it for code to warn other parties trying to move in on their "property". How true that is, I don't know. I've found that sticking with women who don't advertise on Backpage has usually kept me in the company of some wonderful women who don't seem to have those same racial requirements.
I can't blame them. I am not sexually attracted to black men either.
In any case, if you want to cause a stink about this, call the EEOC, put Eric Holder and Al Sharpton on the case. Holder will do the civil rights lawsuit, Sharpton will organize the protests in the street. Obama will then make a passionate speech to some random black audience stating that if he had a son, his son would be bangin' white chicks. MSNBC would be the official media outlet that would report all of it.
In any case, if you want to cause a stink about this, call the EEOC, put Eric Holder and Al Sharpton on the case. Holder will do the civil rights lawsuit, Sharpton will organize the protests in the street. Obama will then make a passionate speech to some random black audience stating that if he had a son, his son would be bangin' white chicks. MSNBC would be the official media outlet that would report all of it.
Your nonsense sums it up. Can't be any meaningful dialog when there are folks like you trolling to the base nature of your thinking.
...if they had been living under a rock and hadn't been following the news at all for the past few years.
Like the liberal shit you say ever makes sense.
Its her body, she can screw anybody she wants too.
Much like, I don't see ladies with a lot of tattoo's just not attractive to me.
Not all African-American men are well endowed.
I know for a fact some, but not all providers who post no black guys have a AA pimp who tells them they are not allowed to cater to other AA men.
- The biggest dicks I have ever witnessed were on white guys. Skinny white men lol, so if her pussy being to small was the issue she should post no big dicks over 5 in. lmfao