On the same subject but in a different angle, I stopped seeing some real nice ladies during the years because of smell. I will try to be as gentle as I can and bring this embarrassing and awkward subject to light, even if the girl showered only two hours before the meeting and she feel fresh, the problem exist if she did a “number two” and did not wash afterward. Ladies this is evident when we are having a doggy style interaction. Hope you recognize it as a constructive criticism nothing else.
Please excuse the alias; I'd hate for anyone to get their feelings hurt!
Recently, a client that I'd rather not see any more has called me out on my "unavailability". He's not a bad client in the strict sense of the definition, but he definitely has hygiene issues. The first time I visited him and noticed it, I did a covert operations type clean up on him. The second time, I asked him to join me in a shower. After the third visit resulting in the same situation, I decided that this guy obviously had no respect for me and that I was better off starving rather than subjecting myself to Mr. Rotten Crotch. Please bear in mind that these were outcall appointments, so he had soap and water at his disposal the whole time.
My query for the board is this: now that I've been asked about why I have not visited with him in a while, should I just be honest? I'm really not comfortable telling a grown man that he doesn't know how to clean himself, but I'm also not willing to deal with his funk. Nor do I want to make up a phony excuse. Any advice?
TIA
Life is hard enough and just when you think your shit don't stink, it probably does. I mean, I think the guy might be clueless and though you were polite 3x, you have done your duty. As a service to all of us, I say out him to himself. Tell Mr. Sammy Rotten Crotch how you feel. If he values honesty at all, he may seek help because often these things have a medical indicator or just take extra care. Some people have very active sweat glad that makes this issue difficult. I have seen the pain of not telling someone after years of 'soap on a rope' gifts and gags. Some people need to get it right in the kisser; square between the eyes before they get it. He, my friend, sound like the perfect soul for an intervention.
At this point, what is there to lose, for either of you?
/Zin
On the same subject but in a different angle, I stopped seeing some real nice ladies during the years because of smell. I will try to be as gentle as I can and bring this embarrassing and awkward subject to light, even if the girl showered only two hours before the meeting and she feel fresh, the problem exist if she did a “number two” and did not wash afterward. Ladies this is evident when we are having a doggy style interaction. Hope you recognize it as a constructive criticism nothing else.
only if you can overcome your resentment
"doesn't know how to clean himself"
"obviously had no respect for me"
"better off starving"
And some get caught in error, for years. 
/Zin
And I wouldn't blame you.
If someone has no respect for me, I tend to resent them.
Now that I think more, being honest is probably good even if you resent him. But seeing him again might not be.
There's no excuse for a client ever having *any* type of odor during his time with a provider. I offer a shower to each and every client who arrives at my door. My bathroom has Listerine, toothbrushes, deodorant, Dial soap and anything else someone could ever need to be freshy fresh. Unfortunately, I think a lot of people think a shower is just that - a shower. They stand under the water. Voila! They're clean. That's not so true. For those private parts to be squeaky clean, people need to remember to use soap *and* a washcloth.
I agree with the provider. She (and I) is better off starving than dealing with a grown man who either doesn't have the hygienic common sense to clean himself properly or doesn't care. No amount of money can stop me from gagging.
To the provider - I had the same kind of scenario a few weeks ago. When I was attemping to lick the lolly I discovered a horrific stench. I gagged. I went down again. I gagged. I went down again. I couldn't do anymore, so I told him that I couldn't continue the encounter without him showering. He showered, but it didn't help. (This guy was at least 150-200 pounds overweight, so I know his weight was a contributing factor.) After the shower, I continued to gag due to the smell. I gave him a handjob and he left. I didn't know what else to do. I must have gagged at least 25 times during the date. I wasn't upset with him. More than anything I felt sorry for him. Having said that, I wouldn't see him again.
This post reminds me of my MP days. This place did not have shower facilities. Some clients would come in and go to the restroom to freshen up the best they could. Others I guess, figured they had a shower earlier in the morning, and they had only been at work, what5,6,8 hours. I don't know what was worse about it, when they were on their backs,and the smell crept up from their booties, or when I flipped them over. Talk about gag. I'm having flashbacks just thinkig about it. Sometimes these guys were uncircumsized, and or overweight, which I think is a factor.Men who fall into theses categories, should make it their life's work to be fresher than the average guy. I had a crock pot with hot towels, but you don't want to insult anyone. These incidents didn't occur with but a few clients, but that's all it takes. The girls talk and remember , gag, gag, gag.
It seems she has tried everything short of handcuffing to a shower. Don't compromise yourself, someone will fill his space.
There was a post about baking soda enemas. I was not interested in the enemas, but read the thread with great interest anyway. I clean myself well and shower at least twice per day (and always shower before seeing a provider), but I decided to try something new. I used a baking soda slurry (the stuff does not go into solution well) during a few baths. The results were amazing. If used with a soaped washcloth and rinsed off thoroughly, the baking soda slurry produced freshness for all of a workday whenever I did not have time to workout at lunchtime and shower after the workout. I am now a regular user of baking soda during my baths and I am especially sure to use it for my shower before and after meeting a provider. I have even invited two providers (I like showering toghether as a lead up to the main events) into the shower with me, both were intrigued by the results.
You have no need or obligation to tell him what the deal is.
You can block his phone calls and block his email.
Any further communication with him will just drag it out. And possibly give him ammunition to argue.
This is not a regular, or a boyfriend or husband situation.
Do hobbyists call you and tell you why they wont be seeing you anymore? Or do they just stop calling?
TET
You have a point E-ticket but then in most cases the guy is not ignoring phone calls from the provider. I know that no good deed goes unpunished but she should tell the hobbyist the reason. It might prompt him to clean up his act so to speak.
One can always do what they do at an office.
Send a care package containing deodorant and some bar soap.
Anonymously, of course.
TET
He's probably got some psychological problem with cleanliness...mommy probably washed his mouth out with soap. Ignore Mr. Smelly, focus on us clean guys who respect the ladies and go to a lot of trouble preparing for our time together.
Soap is basic! (a little chem humor for y'all)
Get clean people, then get FILTHY!! Awww yeahhhhh
-b
let them know you're dealing with hazardous materials whenever you visit this certain workspace. When they show up in their HazMat suits he should get the message. They may even fine him for the cleanup depending on how extensive it is.
I am awestruck with some of you. Be honest with him?? This is a GROWN man, not a toddler. Ms. Jane it is not your responsibility to tell this man that his backside and nether region needs a thorough cleansing. You are not his mother, wife, or girlfriend. Also this is a very personal issue. Do you know this man well enough to be so candid? People can become extremely upset when confronted. While I have believed honesty is the best policy, I also believe in adults taking responsibility for themselves.
Uh providers COMPETE against other providers, they don't help them out.
At least the successful ones don't
You probably should have just told him the first time in sometype of professional manner.
I'm not too sure if exposing his problem to the whole boards helps him any!
This is an easy one, every Provider I have ever been with has made it a point to have excellent hygiene habits. As a client we owe it to you to be showered, clean and presentable. There is no excuse not be clean when meeting with a Provider, or at the very least taking a shower after you arrive.
Tell this guy the truth, he really and I mean really needs to clean up his act.