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gymratguy 41 Reviews 568 reads
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You may be right, when I traveled around the country for work. I had many highly rated ladies agree to meet me for dinner an/or drinks in my hotel so we could check each other out. This was years ago when I had no TER presence. If he's staying somewhere nice he may have more luck than Best Western or Courtyard by Marriott.

I actually have a provider that is linked to me on LinkedIn because she has a career besides being a provider and she is deep UTR. I trust her 100%

senior1189 reads

Hey everyone. I'm from Toronto....eh!  lol

I can't believe all the stuff I am reading on this forum about arrests, crackdowns, etc. I find it crazy that all these hobbyists are giving out their personal info even after all the times the lists of men have been publicized after a bust. And references?! wow. this is new to me.

In Canada, your completely safe unless she is underage or pimped. So now I don't know what to do.

I'm coming for a conference next week and wanted to have some fun and spend an hour with a beautiful woman. Is this even worth the risk?  

What can I do to protect myself? incall? outcall? I was planning on seeing someone that is well reviewed but didn't ask me for a "screening". Thoughts?

PM me if your a provider around Scottsdale. I'm interested in seeing 2 providers on the same date as well.  :

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hiddenhills816 reads

Wishful thinking. With the environment we're currently dealing with, that could be very difficult.  Well reviewed providers are going to ask for references, if you don't have any, you'll be asked for personal/business info. Only you can decide what type of info you want to give up.  

Posted By: senior
Hey everyone. I'm from Toronto....eh!  lol  
   
 I can't believe all the stuff I am reading on this forum about arrests, crackdowns, etc. I find it crazy that all these hobbyists are giving out their personal info even after all the times the lists of men have been publicized after a bust. And references?! wow. this is new to me.  
   
 In Canada, your completely safe unless she is underage or pimped. So now I don't know what to do.  
   
 I'm coming for a conference next week and wanted to have some fun and spend an hour with a beautiful woman. Is this even worth the risk?  
   
 What can I do to protect myself? incall? outcall? I was planning on seeing someone that is well reviewed but didn't ask me for a "screening". Thoughts?  
   
 PM me if your a provider around Scottsdale. I'm interested in seeing 2 providers on the same date as well.  :)  
   
 

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senior661 reads

I've seen forms that ask for references, employment, etc. You guys feel comfortable giving that out when all you know is her stage name? What kind of info do you guys actually give out?  
 

Posted By: hiddenhills
Wishful thinking. With the environment we're currently dealing with, that could be very difficult.  Well reviewed providers are going to ask for references, if you don't have any, you'll be asked for personal/business info. Only you can decide what type of info you want to give up.  
   
Posted By: senior
Hey everyone. I'm from Toronto....eh!  lol  
     
  I can't believe all the stuff I am reading on this forum about arrests, crackdowns, etc. I find it crazy that all these hobbyists are giving out their personal info even after all the times the lists of men have been publicized after a bust. And references?! wow. this is new to me.  
     
  In Canada, your completely safe unless she is underage or pimped. So now I don't know what to do.  
     
  I'm coming for a conference next week and wanted to have some fun and spend an hour with a beautiful woman. Is this even worth the risk?    
     
  What can I do to protect myself? incall? outcall? I was planning on seeing someone that is well reviewed but didn't ask me for a "screening". Thoughts?  
     
  PM me if your a provider around Scottsdale. I'm interested in seeing 2 providers on the same date as well.  :)  
     
 

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Dave76015803 reads

This is just me.  The very first time I asked to walk into a stranger's home and have an intimate encounter with her, I accepted the fact that she's going to want to make sure I'm not LE or a freak.  
She must have liked me because afterwards, she took this rookie under her wing and help me safely navigate the noobie minefield:  
D-C and P411 verification as well as making sure references are available. Stay with quality, well reviewed professionals  If you don't have P411 or DC verification membership, either accept the fact that you'll have to go through the verification process over and over or find females who won't want to verify (backpage).  In AZ, that is.    

If you have truly researched the local environment, why would you think that blowing into town, wanting to see someone "well reviewed" but not be subject to screening would be a reasonable assumption???

I have not traveled to the Great White North to see how the process works up there.  I would think there would be some kind of process or tools for a lady to make sure you are not an axe murderer, thief, or just a plain old total rude-ass wanker.  

One great thing about travel is you may learn to observe, gain understanding, and develop an appreciation for a culture before dropping the "Well that's stupid. I think it should be done this way because I'm from xxxx and that's how we do it" turd in the punch bowl.    

Speaking of reviews, how about yours?  The presence of reviews is meaningless when it comes to screening and verification.  However, it does give a little further insight into the type of person you are, what kind of woman do you prefer, and how you roll.  (Disclaimer: reviews are totally fictional accounts, have no basis in fact and are solely for entertainment purposes.  FO&D bacon!!)

When in Rome, do as the Romans do.  
Observe the local customs and play by the rules here, and you can have a grand time.

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esports99600 reads

I don't care if a provider is newbie friendly or not, just expect to be screen by the smart ones.  

We all have to be smarter doing this hobby now and being discreet is the wise move too!

If you want to see the best providers, just expect them to make sure you are not a LE or crazy.  

 



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senior533 reads

In Response to: "Well that's stupid. I think it should be done this way because I'm from xxxx and that's how we do it"

I don't have that mentality. I have just never heard of references and screening before.  

Over here in the "great white north", hobbying is legal, plentiful, and relatively cheaper compared to your rates. Of course we have the $50 ladies and the $1000 ladies as well. But the most common ones are about $120hh/$200h for a really good, well reviewed escort. Also, its a lot easier to choose and not be disappointed because the menus are online.

 
For those who love hobbying - Consider a trip to Toronto. :)

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fartsonhigher1579 reads

Someone with a login on TER who has never heard of references?  ... In from Canada .... Posting on the PHX board ... Home of "Mr. Canada" DAVEPHX.

Not everything is better with bacon, you know.

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LucasHood490 reads

"I have just never heard of references and screening before." And yet, here you are..................

Posted By: senior
In Response to: "Well that's stupid. I think it should be done this way because I'm from xxxx and that's how we do it"  
   
 I don't have that mentality. I have just never heard of references and screening before.  
   
 Over here in the "great white north", hobbying is legal, plentiful, and relatively cheaper compared to your rates. Of course we have the $50 ladies and the $1000 ladies as well. But the most common ones are about $120hh/$200h for a really good, well reviewed escort. Also, its a lot easier to choose and not be disappointed because the menus are online.  
   
   
 For those who love hobbying - Consider a trip to Toronto. :)  
   
   
 

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gymratguy746 reads

Try Jordan Kay, she has great reviews and I think she's newbie friendly.....she may even bring a friend

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Aguyinak564 reads

I believe you are correct that JK is newbie friendly and though I have never seen her I understand she is a ton of fun.  However, I am quite certain that the Op will still have to jump through the usual verification hoops and provide the typical information that he seems reluctant to share.

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gymratguy569 reads

You may be right, when I traveled around the country for work. I had many highly rated ladies agree to meet me for dinner an/or drinks in my hotel so we could check each other out. This was years ago when I had no TER presence. If he's staying somewhere nice he may have more luck than Best Western or Courtyard by Marriott.

I actually have a provider that is linked to me on LinkedIn because she has a career besides being a provider and she is deep UTR. I trust her 100%

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ss308577 reads

But as I've said before- I give my real name and place of employment when a provider will do the same.  P411 is one thing, but giving your real name and place of employment especially in Phoenix at the moment is pure insanity.   I'm lucky enough to be established and have plenty of provider references, honestly if I were a newbie in Phoenix right now I may not even partake if I had a lot to lose such as family or great career that could be ruined by an arrest.    These aren't the good old days I'm afraid. ..

Posted By: senior
Hey everyone. I'm from Toronto....eh!  lol  
   
 I can't believe all the stuff I am reading on this forum about arrests, crackdowns, etc. I find it crazy that all these hobbyists are giving out their personal info even after all the times the lists of men have been publicized after a bust. And references?! wow. this is new to me.  
   
 In Canada, your completely safe unless she is underage or pimped. So now I don't know what to do.  
   
 I'm coming for a conference next week and wanted to have some fun and spend an hour with a beautiful woman. Is this even worth the risk?  
   
 What can I do to protect myself? incall? outcall? I was planning on seeing someone that is well reviewed but didn't ask me for a "screening". Thoughts?  
   
 PM me if your a provider around Scottsdale. I'm interested in seeing 2 providers on the same date as well.  :)  
   
 

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senior541 reads

I appreciate the candid honesty and I think I'll take your advice. I'd rather be safe than sorry.

Thank you for the advice.

 

Posted By: ss308
But as I've said before- I give my real name and place of employment when a provider will do the same.  P411 is one thing, but giving your real name and place of employment especially in Phoenix at the moment is pure insanity.   I'm lucky enough to be established and have plenty of provider references, honestly if I were a newbie in Phoenix right now I may not even partake if I had a lot to lose such as family or great career that could be ruined by an arrest.    These aren't the good old days I'm afraid. ..  
   
Posted By: senior
Hey everyone. I'm from Toronto....eh!  lol  
     
  I can't believe all the stuff I am reading on this forum about arrests, crackdowns, etc. I find it crazy that all these hobbyists are giving out their personal info even after all the times the lists of men have been publicized after a bust. And references?! wow. this is new to me.  
     
  In Canada, your completely safe unless she is underage or pimped. So now I don't know what to do.  
     
  I'm coming for a conference next week and wanted to have some fun and spend an hour with a beautiful woman. Is this even worth the risk?    
     
  What can I do to protect myself? incall? outcall? I was planning on seeing someone that is well reviewed but didn't ask me for a "screening". Thoughts?  
     
  PM me if your a provider around Scottsdale. I'm interested in seeing 2 providers on the same date as well.  :)  
     
 
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senior587 reads

Some have roomates(incall) or drivers(outcall), some only take on regulars, and some just take the risk based on the feel they get from texting.  

We rarely have any problems over here. There is no fear of arrest or axe murderers. Its like this forum, everyone respects the hobby. Of course there are bad apples, but its always easy enough to see who they are for the most part.

I guess its just a different environment.

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Posted By: senior
Some have roomates(incall) or drivers(outcall), some only take on regulars, and some just take the risk based on the feel they get from texting.  
   
 We rarely have any problems over here. There is no fear of arrest or axe murderers. Its like this forum, everyone respects the hobby. I guess its just a different environment.
As a frequent over a decade visitor to Toronto the huge agencies usually have drivers and mass selection of beautiful women and the recent statement by the Toronto Police Dept about their job is to provide safety to sexworkers.  

Vs here where drivers are all considered "pimps" and the gal and the driver (often boyfriend or husband to provide some security) is charged often with felony criminal enterprise with potential years in prison.

In Toronto there is no hesitation to call police with any issue vs don't dare here.  

Yes it is a totally different environment which I enjoy as often as possible.  Oh Canada!

But most of the world is more like Canada - the U.S. is very unique in making pleasure sharing a crim for in private consenting adults

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LucasHood454 reads

Ya think???????

Posted By: senior
Some have roomates(incall) or drivers(outcall), some only take on regulars, and some just take the risk based on the feel they get from texting.  
   
 We rarely have any problems over here. There is no fear of arrest or axe murderers. Its like this forum, everyone respects the hobby. Of course there are bad apples, but its always easy enough to see who they are for the most part.  
   
 I guess its just a different environment.

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