Phoenix

Failure to communicate?
PhxTallGuy 333 reads
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I'm a long time lurker but infrequent poster and, as someone who has seen Sierra, I thought I'd uncloak and provide some feedback. First of all, while her looks might not be everyone's cup of tea, she has an undeniable sex appeal. It's one of those things that is just independent of physical characteristics, which are pretty darn good, and it is based in her incredible perceptive abilities. She reads you like a book. At least she read me. I saw her to explore my newly discovered submissive side. She literally had me in tears from the emotional release of what she uncovered. She opened me up, and my resulting release was off the charts. I like to think hers was as well. It was a unique and fulfilling experience, when so many interactions are shallow by comparison.

Not everyone communicates the same way, and some people do not communicate online well at all. Sierra is just not particularly good at communicating her talents, which are impressive. Two reviews. Mixed. What that says is that she needs to be 'your cup of tea'. If she is, then you've struck (red) gold

I am not new to the Provider world - Although originally from the West Coast - and with experience working as a West Coast provider, I have been traveling over the last few years while being based out of the D.C area as an Independent Provider.  I am into a variety of things - light S/M play, body rubs, tantra massage, tantric practice, and some Escort work. I pride myself as being top-notch especially in attitude.  Although I may not be everyone's cup o' tea looks wise, I always keep my reputation with my great attitude!  

I have found my experience of settling down in the Phoenix area very trying! I am a West coast 'girl-next door' type - which I guess may have added to the exuberant success I had on the East Coast......I am all natural with no breast implants (and definitely perky - no sagging!) and am fair-skinned, red-headed and very interested in pursuing my talents in sensual education and just plain fun!  It seems to me that in the Phoenix area that the people seeking out my massage/body rub experiences are looking to bargain with me and to try to get a discounted rate - when I have already accounted for the difference from East Coast to AZ.....and absolutely - hands-down - I get more money on the East Coast.  I do know that past financial times have been hard on everyone in Phoenix - but it's now picking up - so why are you seekers of sensual pleasure and wisdom trying to bargain me down???  In fact - I have seen some very attractive women - including myself! -  get downplayed on this site (TER) purely as to how they 'look' according to what they are asking for.  Really??? Us' higher end' ladies in the Phoenix area ask some of the lowest donation rates in the country but still get hassled and reviewed harshly by the men that we offer 'services' to??? and subsequently provide 'said' services to - safely and discreetly??? and even when delivering them with a smile???  Check yourself guys......

I find your post interesting and thought-provoking, so I'll respond.
You said  " I do know that past financial times have been hard on everyone in Phoenix - but it's now picking up - so why are you seekers of sensual pleasure and wisdom trying to bargain me down???"
It's interesting, because I haven't met you nor corresponded with you (yet), so I read and re-read your post, and decided to check out your reviews.   Keeping in mind that this area has literally dozens of well-reviewed providers that average 8 or higher, and quite a few that average 9 and above, I noticed your two reviews were not at all in that league.  I'd guess that if guys are interested in seeing you, they're more willing to at a lower rate because of your scores.
I often wonder how a lady who consistently gets mediocre scores continues to get clients, yet then gets more mediocre scores.  I maintain that a seven is a seven, and you can't expect a 9* experience from someone who consistently gets 7* scores.  I've concluded that the reason that women with lesser scores continue to draw business is because they must undersell their 9* competition.
So, that's my opinion, and just my opinion.
Also, you wrote : "Us' higher end' ladies in the Phoenix area ask some of the lowest donation rates in the country but still get hassled and reviewed harshly by the men that we offer 'services' to??? and subsequently provide 'said' services to - safely and discreetly??? and even when delivering them with a smile???"
My reply to that is I really don't get what you're saying.  Reviews are reviews, and I don't understand by what you mean "getting reviewed harshly."  C'mon, a review is a review, and some of them are harsher than others.  I've given 10/10's, and I've given a few 6's and 7's in my day, but I've never considered myself harsh.
As for "getting hassled,"  I don't understand what you mean, unless some people are just trying to bully or upset you.
Sorry if I haven't answered your questions, I just felt that you needed some kind of response to your "Client-bashing" LOL.  And, no, I do NOT use aliases, I have a few "Whitelists," so you know I'm real, and we've never met.
Good day

What the heck was that !  

Was it an ad, an complaint , or question ? ! ?  

Love, not being a negative debby.. but from another ladies point of view. ..  

Your website nor prices are not upscale. On your website its 180/320.  
If your service is only for massage or Tantra, then the 180 is on the average side.  
If not and you offer more than that.. then you are on the lower side.  

You have very little web info here in AZ. Also many people are very aware and on the look for ne people with very little reviews.  

Also.. you have 3 or 4 pics on your website, and they are small.  

Sometimes... it may just be you.

Thank you Elite Gray.  I'm as confused as you are, and you mentioned some of the reasons why

I have read your reviews and enjoy reading them. So I would also like to see some pictures of you too!  

The points you made in your comments were very valid points.

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I searched the regional ad board, didn't see an ads by you.  Also take your phone number out of your BP ad and that may reduce the riff raff.  Finally, if aren't aware of P411 you might try that site.  

Posted By: sierratantrika
I am not new to the Provider world - Although originally from the West Coast - and with experience working as a West Coast provider, I have been traveling over the last few years while being based out of the D.C area as an Independent Provider.  I am into a variety of things - light S/M play, body rubs, tantra massage, tantric practice, and some Escort work. I pride myself as being top-notch especially in attitude.  Although I may not be everyone's cup o' tea looks wise, I always keep my reputation with my great attitude!    
   
 I have found my experience of settling down in the Phoenix area very trying! I am a West coast 'girl-next door' type - which I guess may have added to the exuberant success I had on the East Coast......I am all natural with no breast implants (and definitely perky - no sagging!) and am fair-skinned, red-headed and very interested in pursuing my talents in sensual education and just plain fun!  It seems to me that in the Phoenix area that the people seeking out my massage/body rub experiences are looking to bargain with me and to try to get a discounted rate - when I have already accounted for the difference from East Coast to AZ.....and absolutely - hands-down - I get more money on the East Coast.  I do know that past financial times have been hard on everyone in Phoenix - but it's now picking up - so why are you seekers of sensual pleasure and wisdom trying to bargain me down???  In fact - I have seen some very attractive women - including myself! -  get downplayed on this site (TER) purely as to how they 'look' according to what they are asking for.  Really??? Us' higher end' ladies in the Phoenix area ask some of the lowest donation rates in the country but still get hassled and reviewed harshly by the men that we offer 'services' to??? and subsequently provide 'said' services to - safely and discreetly??? and even when delivering them with a smile???  Check yourself guys.......  
   
 

I believe that most providers in our area are friendly. You may want to meet a few local providers and ask for their input. You may want to provide some identifiable pics that showcase your self. Positive reviews are paramount if you want to generate regulars. You have 1 positive and 1 negative. Good Luck!

It's hard to make a judgement based on two reviews.  One OK, the other "meh".  The harsher of the two made it pretty clear that you were not what he was looking for, and should have not gone through, gave you a percentage of the agreed time fee, and not subjected you to a weak review.  

If your website prices are correct, then for time charged and services rendered, they are slightly higher than the market, IMHO.  The thing that surprises me is seeing the reviews from folks that go to a body rub woman, pay 200-300 for a HJ or CBJ, that's all they get and they are happy with it.  

AZ rates are based on the cost of living compared to the rest of the country.  Other places are less, reviewing some of the other regional ad boards.  Other places are more.  It's just an economic fact of life.  I could make more money living in CA or NY doing the exact same job, but the cost of living eats it up.  

As far as trying to bargain down pricing, it happens.  A friend shares some of her stories, and it blows my mind, but it's a result of idiots calling out of her BP post, and those are the "spur of the moment" types, not the serious guys that research, read reviews, read websites before deciding on calling (like me).  

To be honest, two reviews does not make a "higher end provider".  As suggested earlier, please increase the number of photos on your website.  Give me a better picture of the woman I'm thinking of giving my hard earned money.   Diversify your advertising base.  BP does not attract the quality customer you are looking for.   There are other review sites with advertising that you can post on daily.  Get your ad up here.  Participate in the conversations, instead of saying "I'm wonderful, and you indigent, cheap ass jerks in Phoenix suck."    

Personally, I have a major thing for adult, grown up redheads.  I enjoy sharing seriously passionate multi-hour encounters with them.  Give me a relatively tall one, with hips I can grab a hold of and share something fantastic, and I'm all in.    

Then again, I'm not "seeking wisdom and bargaining you down".  I'm seeking a companion for a couple of hours of total, unmitigated sexual excitement, passion and fun for both of us that leaves us sweaty, spent, exhilarated, tingling, smiling, and multi-orgasmically blown away over the energy we share together.  

Based on the limited information you provide about yourself, I just don't see myself risking the investment or time hoping for something that doesn't seem to be there.  Please feel free to PM me if there is something that I'm missing or if you'd like any clarifications.  Like I said earlier, I have a thing for adult redheads.  

Check yourself as well before tossing rocks.

Personally I am not so sure it is wise for a new (at least to the area) lady to be bashing gentlemen of AZ TER.  I do believe this post would have been better served in Ladies Only Board.  Normally I try to stay away from BP ladies. Although, some "high-end" ladies do post on BP, most are "low-end" ladies. Guys are usually on BP in search of a bargain.  Also you can write on your ad - price non-negotiable.  Anyways, welcome to AZ and hope you are successful and safe

If you advertise on BP you will get a steady stream of bargain hunters. Get used to it or advertise elsewhere. Sorry if that's overly blunt but there's the truth. Full disclosure, I use Backpage quite a bit and I'm always looking for a hidden gem or a new lady who is establishing herself but never have I haggled the price listed.  

I'm a firm believer in the free market system so if you can get gentleman to pay your listed rates for the services offered then more power too you but at those rates for said services I'm not surprised that some are looking to see if you might budge a little.  

Best of luck here in Phoenix

Mr-Blonde520 reads

I think your $180 rate is a bit high for FBSM/Tantra/whatever else you would call it.   On BP, that is something that is very readily available in this city for around $120/hr.

PhxTallGuy334 reads

I'm a long time lurker but infrequent poster and, as someone who has seen Sierra, I thought I'd uncloak and provide some feedback. First of all, while her looks might not be everyone's cup of tea, she has an undeniable sex appeal. It's one of those things that is just independent of physical characteristics, which are pretty darn good, and it is based in her incredible perceptive abilities. She reads you like a book. At least she read me. I saw her to explore my newly discovered submissive side. She literally had me in tears from the emotional release of what she uncovered. She opened me up, and my resulting release was off the charts. I like to think hers was as well. It was a unique and fulfilling experience, when so many interactions are shallow by comparison.

Not everyone communicates the same way, and some people do not communicate online well at all. Sierra is just not particularly good at communicating her talents, which are impressive. Two reviews. Mixed. What that says is that she needs to be 'your cup of tea'. If she is, then you've struck (red) gold

Eggs_over_easy337 reads

Maybe I'm out of line but I'm calling bullshit on this post. No reviews and nothing posted on this board for the last year by this author. I'm thinking it's damage control by the OP. I could be wrong, hell I'm wrong all the time but that's my gut reaction to it.  

Posted By: PhxTallGuy
I'm a long time lurker but infrequent poster and, as someone who has seen Sierra, I thought I'd uncloak and provide some feedback. First of all, while her looks might not be everyone's cup of tea, she has an undeniable sex appeal. It's one of those things that is just independent of physical characteristics, which are pretty darn good, and it is based in her incredible perceptive abilities. She reads you like a book. At least she read me. I saw her to explore my newly discovered submissive side. She literally had me in tears from the emotional release of what she uncovered. She opened me up, and my resulting release was off the charts. I like to think hers was as well. It was a unique and fulfilling experience, when so many interactions are shallow by comparison.  
   
 Not everyone communicates the same way, and some people do not communicate online well at all. Sierra is just not particularly good at communicating her talents, which are impressive. Two reviews. Mixed. What that says is that she needs to be 'your cup of tea'. If she is, then you've struck (red) gold.  
   
 
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Maybe the subject line says it all, but with only 2 average reviews from guys who have reviewed dozens, I think I would trust their judgment.  The price is too high for the services promised and delivered.  Pretty simple.  

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