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Watching the sunset at J&G is fantastic with the right person. Have gone on 3 dinner dates two were successful because of mtg first and talking.  One didn't go as well due to me wanting it to instead of listening and realizing that we were just too different

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Is there a good way to determine if a lady would be an appropriate and enjoyable dinner date? There are so many “luxury or elite escorts” with a dinner date option, but it doesn’t guarantee they are good company to share a nice meal with.  

It’s an important part of the “date like” experience for me and it is a real disappointment to waste a planned dinner occasion on someone who is uninterested (even being well paid) or is unequipped (in dress or conversation) especially when your opportunities are limited. I think TER needs a “dinner/travel date rating field” one can search on. I appreciate the rare reviewer that comments on this aspect.  

There are some wonderful ladies who seem to (or can pretend to) enjoy/appreciate the conversation and being treated to a romantic dinner before heading off to be alone. Interested in hearing tips on finding them and avoiding those who will just think I’m a fool wasting time, $’s, and energy pleasing for something I can get without all the trouble

I would suggest seeing them privately first to determine compatibility and maybe talk to them about a dinner date at the same time. That way it's all on the table in advance.

Any time you anticipate a longer date with a provider, I think it's best if you have met for a short, say an hour, date before.  Reason being, if you don't click on a short date, you certainly don't want to waste time and money on an extended one.  One date is probably enough to see if a dinner date is warranted, but if you are considering an overnighter, I'd suggest several dates first.

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Chemistry is a must, but enjoying great conversation over a fine meal really gives us a change to arouse more, than just an intimate 1 hour playdate.  I have been emailing a gent for the past 2 months who can not afford my overnight tribute, but I am making an exception because we are clearly compatible.  $ is not everything.  The fact that I know I will enjoy my time & we have the same interests is priceless.  I would rather make a friend for life, than see a guy once & have to fake it the entire encounter.  I truly enjoy delighting in fine meal & enjoying good lingo with a smart, and mature gentlemen.  

TER does not have a dinner date feature, but they also, do not gear towards kinky providers as well.  TER is a straight vanilla site that is focused on straight sex & not the entire quality companion aspects of hobby. Best of luck to you on your mission!

I believe you will be best served by saving your dinner dates for providers that you have met and hit it off with.  I prefer extended dates whenever possible and with ladies whose company I thoroughly enjoy.  I generally plan shorter dates with new aquaintances and with those providers that I simplly want to hop in the sack with.

I too have somewhat limited opportunities and don't like to squander them on unsuitable companions.  There is no substitute for thorough research and so far I have been able to successfully identify ahead of time those providers who I would want to spend extended time with.  Even so, I only schedule a 2 hour appt for first dates and extend mid-date or on follow up dates.

I have to say this is one of the best questions, to be posted on this site in a while.  

So what I would do, see the provider a couple of times on shorter dates before going out on a dinner date or a over night date.  

I know this is a hobby for us, but usually with time and conversation.  So you can get a good idea, if the both of you click during your time together. This is why Madame Patricia was right, the chemistry is very important!  

Why spend more donations or time, with a provider if you feel like she would take advantage of you or is counting down the hours until the date is over?  So even in this hobby, you have to be smarter than that and think with your bigger head.

The bottom line is only you know what you want and like in a provider. I will put it like this, after a short date with a provider and your time is up. When you start planning in your mind another date, before opening the car door or still thinking about her after she leaves your hotel room.  Also if she sends a thank you call, email or text.

Then you know that provider is worth a longer dinner date or a overnight stay and your time!

Start out with a 90 minute session.  That way you'll know pretty quick if there are points of shared interest.    Get a little pillow talk time, and explore your likes and dislikes.   Considering the range and depth of the ladies in town, I wouldn't think your opportunities are limited here.  

Best of luck to you

I'm not going to dinner date nor spend extended time with anyone unless I have seen them before.  It's during the initial meetings that you can determine if there is rapport or not. So I would suggest taking the donation for a dinner date and possibly spending an hour with one or two people to see if there is some chemistry.  After that, you can determine if a dinner or weekend is worth the investment.

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Thanks for the notes - seems there's no short cut around doing your homework, sampling, and hoping for good chemistry. Just don't have much "trial and error" time to waste (like when traveling) and believe dinner is a great first date when it's with the right person.  

I wonder if "escorts" focused only on your "time and companionship" (just like the disclaimer) exist for dinner then I could switch to an after dinner escort? Ha! I'll keep trying to find both together on the first pitch. It happens - thanks for trying to help improve my success rate.  

PS comment regarding something bear69 mentioned. The "thank you e-mail" after is great = i want to see you again. Maybe I'm old school but the abbreviated text = is just "thanks for the payment". No message = I already forgot who you are.

When I was touring in NYC in my younger providing years, I was asked to a 3 hour dinner and play date. This was my first and I have to admit I was a bit nervous. We talked through e-mails for a week or so (he was a pre planner) Then we had a couple telephone chats to see if we were a match (this was my idea) When Date time came, I met him at his hotel in Manhattan and away we went to a steak house in a limo. The benefit of all the prior conversations we had let us to discover out love of meat (it was a fabulous steak house by the way) It really made a difference in the out come of the dinner and the play time was just off the hook HAWT !

Hopefully this helps and you find a provider willing to do this because it really makes a difference :) And if the young lady cares about how great of experience you have just as much as hers.. Well sir you have found the right one !!

unless we've met before. I prefer to have dessert first, then depending on how sweet he is, I will probably be the one suggesting lunch/dinner dates for our next visit together. I honestly don't think you can determine if a lady would be appropriate for a public, yet intimate, setting. That's something you can only find out by trial and error, unfortunately.  

I like the idea of a "dinner/travel date rating" field. You should suggest it to TER :)  

xoxo

I agree with Miss Akiya. You should have a pre interview date to see if you both share that common interest. In the alternative, invite Akiya and you will hit the lottery. Good Luck!

Camelback Inn, and The J&G at Phoenician are pretty darn close.

Watching the sunset at J&G is fantastic with the right person. Have gone on 3 dinner dates two were successful because of mtg first and talking.  One didn't go as well due to me wanting it to instead of listening and realizing that we were just too different

Another fun place is Different Pointe of View at 7th St. Pointe Tapatio.

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Wow reading some of those post, you guys don't play around with your long dates.  

Just be careful this is still a hobby and for most of these providers it's just a job nothing else!   Yes they are sexy and fun, but at the end of the day most of us are just a $ sign to them.

I will say in some cases, it's not like that but for the most part they are about $

All I'm saying to the OP, is make a couple of 90 minute interview dates to see how it goes before going to the time and expense of a multi-hour commitment without any experience or chemistry.  

Worst case: they don't hit it off at dinner and she rabbits.  It's always her right to terminate at any point if things aren't going well.  Just as it's his right to pay for the full time contracted and take off if things don't go well either.  Experience says if it ain't going well before loosing the clothes, it sure ain't getting any better after they hit the floor.    

Best case:  they hit it off, have a fantastic roll in the hay, and like each other enough to discuss doing something fun the next time.  And that would be at least a day or so after the date, not in person, and not in the heat of the moment.  Nobody should be put on the spot in that situation.  

YMMV

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