Maybe an acquaintance...but NOT a "good friend"

And her Johns are supposed to be responsible for this?

Yea..go and be a lesbian

Why can't you girls, who charge $500/hr keep $5000 in savings to post their own bond?  Hookers and Hobbyists are in transactional relationship.  Anything above and beyond that either party does for other SHOULD be appreciated, but NOT EXPECTED !!!

Also, why do you find it necessary to post your Eros AD at the bottom of the post ? This is considered advertising.. Attraction seekers, are we?

Aren't you the same lady who posted the post about bringing in a third lady to surprise boyfriend and got slammed for it...Yep...Its you.. I remember...

of anything. There are guys out there who do in fact help out when a girl is in need, but they are few and far between. What gets me is when they want to yell at any provider who won't give them OTC time, yet where are they at Christmas when it's time to buy gifts? With "their" families..that's where. The way I see it, this is an arrangement and I have learned the hard way not to go being too free with what I offer, because it is rarely ever given back.

It's funny how much they love us when we are giving them extras, but when it comes time to return the favor, they are nowhere. This is the exact reason I don't ever get too close to anyone I see...what's the point? A true friend would be there...that goes both ways too, but I have found that is very hard to accomplish here.

I have guys I shoot the shit with, but I have found more often than not that getting too close leads to us being the ones doing the giving.

Friends huh? If I got busted sellin weed. I aint callin my custos to bail my azz out.

I usually tell people that I know many people, and we hang out and such, but that doesn't constitute true friendship. I only have a few select people to consider them as friends, who if need be are loyal enough to drop what their doing if I was in the same predicament.

When you ask the question, is it possible for clients and companions to be friends. The answer is, of course it is possible. However, the level of friendship depends on the relationship of each party. What kind of relationship does she have with her clients? Does she usually see them once a month or once every few months? What kind of activities does she do with him? Does she hang with him OTC or talk to him anytime when he calls her anytime? Is she willing to go the distance to show him her loyalty or unconditional support.

Sometimes we misconstrued the true definition of friendship, and misuse that term. When I was growing up, I only had a handful of friends, and still have them til this day. These days, the term friendship is misuse, and if you ask that guy on Facebook about his 10K plus friends, he probably don't know 99% of them personally.

The point is, when someone is requesting a large sump of money, the ultimate decision depends on the type of relationship they have with each other. Sure, I may know her, and we see each other from time to time, but, I personally don't know them enough to give them that kind of money. I don't have that kind of problem giving it to someone that I personally know, but I don't personally know her enough to make that kind of commitment and sacrifice. Hope that makes sense.

What if it's not a hobby related charge?  Should that make a differnce?

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but a REAL friend will be in the next cell.

Honestly however, despite the sexual intimacy we share, clients will be (hopefully) charming and sympathetic and might even be loyal customers; but when it comes to bailing you out, don't count on it.

There may be exceptions of course, and some guys are softies, but even then don't call it "true" friendship - unless he's in the next cell.

I understand being pampered. I love it myself; that is if it means going to the spa and hair/makeup salon. If you are such a good friend, why did you not just pay it yourself instead of reaching out to clients? Almost all of the men I see are married. Most of them cannot just take a large sum of money out of the bank without their wives seeing and demanding to know why he took $2000 or so out of the account since that is probably not something that he ordinarily does. Why did you go calling on clients? Were you being pampered all day and all night long? Or did you just not have the money or you had it but did not want to give it to the bond man. I guess not since your pampering is important. Cute question.

Real friendship takes time to develop and goes both ways. There were six providers I used to see as often as the rules between my wife and I allowed for professionally. I hanged with them off the clock from time to time and have helped them in small ways like loans car repairs and the like from time to time. When I got real sick and was not seeing providers as I was just too sick and in an out of hospitals (still am quite sick but doing much much better). Only two came and seen me when I could have used the company stranded in my bed or in a hospital.

The thing is I don't blame the four that never came over. We were just acquaintances not real friends. We enjoyed each other and had a business relationship but that was all it was not a friendship. The two that came and seen me I knew much longer. One was retired and we was real friends. I knew her kid her ex her mother, she was friends with my wife and my sn and knew my father. I had helped her in a very real way. We was real friends. The other surprised me She took time to help my son deal with how sick I was becoming. She showed real compassion and truly earned my friendship.

Thing is men and women can be friends even in the hobby, but there must be more there than P4P. I love both of those women as a friend. Both now have left the hobby for good I think. Both are becoming  good platonic family friends. The other four I lost track of. 9o%+ of hobby relations are just acquaintance/business relationships like that formed with a barber or a waiter and not true friendships, though real friendships can happen if both sides are able to invite the other into their lives in a real way. Sad fact is that can't happen because of how secretive many must be in the hobby.

are giving by nature. ( maybe the way they were raised?)
Others, not so much. ( also, maybe the way they were raised?)
Either way, it's hard to go against who you really are as a person.
I've just seen in my life ( and i lost EVERYTHING) when i help some else, it ALWAYS comes back in some form. Maybe not monetarily, but, it does come back. ( even if it's just, peace of mind) I will take that, ANYDAY!!

Hope to God that I'll never need it, but I have a plan in place if it does.  Take control of your own life instead of being a victim of it.  

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Hey Zoe,

A bail bondsman would charge a $500 fee to "loan" the "$5,000" for a bail bond. Lot easier to come up with that than the whole amount.

If she appears in court, my guess is that she would be assessed court costs and fees.

Does anyone know whether the LE's take credit cards for bail?

Haff

Hello ChgoCPA i couldnt wait to read what you had to say.. When i become a lesbian I would like you to watch..

z

Responding to you, CPA, to get my post near the top

Hey Piers, why is it that when we say "boyfriend", you say client?
Don't we get raked over the coals when we forget about the boundaries?
Isn't a guy who hounds you for "over and above" service known as a stalker?

WHY IS IT THAT WHEN WE SAY "BOYFRIEND", YOU SAY "BUSINESS"
AND WHEN WE SAY "BUSINESS" YOU SAY "HUH, I GUESS I KNOW WHO MY FRIENDS ARE"?

Why not call your banker, your real estate or insurance agent, your doctor for the money?
They are your friends, aren't they?

I have gone way above and beyond with money and other help for three different providers during my hobbying "career". All three of them were women who proved themselves to be my friend, beyond the hobby, and for all three of them to this day I would get up in the middle of the night and do anything in my power to help them out should the need arise - and they would do the same for me. That kind of friendship has to be earned, it doesn't occur just because you have a business relationship with someone, no matter how intimate.

Some have more than 5000$ saved up. Your point "appreciation and expectation" is valid only when it an option. I dont think there is even an option to it... Yes i am the ONE AND ONLY Zoe Piers..

Why not ask HIM to bail this gal out?  I'm assuming he knows that she is a hooker by now!

Are you honestly suggesting that this is nothing but a faux ad?

Imagine...

I get a feeling that this is just another fictional story written just to attract attention.

It's amazing how these posters who so cunningly and craftily post these drivel never come back to post any response.

Hi,

... and true friend!!!

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...because NOTHING is FREE.  If she is fucking me for FREE, she in return will expect me to be her boyfriend.  And that's not why I got in this for.

If I fuck her, it is going to be in return of her rate. So, when I walk out that door, I really WALK out that door.

This reminds me of the "a provider called asking to borrow money" threads we often see. The summary of the thread is always, don't give more than you can afford to lose. Like everything, that works both ways.

very true..i would and have helped those special few in time of need..they know who they are..i dont expect free pussy or anything in return..like london says they are few and far between..they usually get the label of white knight or worse..chivalry died a long time ago..but there are kind and courteous gentlemen still out there..trouble is in this hobby they are extremely rare..

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I have read your responses, thank you.

I am not exactly sure how to respond to them, but thought i could acknowledge your posts.

Zoe

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I dont know her "boyfriends" well and the nature of their friendship, but i know some of these males he keeps in touch with them on a regular basis, ultimately there is an element of mutual "love and lust" with atleast 2 whom i was.

Myself i know i can count on 2 people fairly new clients. But i also know how they make me feel and vice versa not just in the bedroom.

You are right it boils done to the type of the relationship. I hope i never get in that predicament but if i do, it will be nice to know that i have someone to call be it a fellow provider or a client. And yes i have saved more than enough of my bail out money just incase..

The Doll

Zoe P

Will you come bail me out if it happens to me, i am a doll a day in jail will be a torture.

Zoe

...they don't accept 50 pairs of shoes from your 'shoe collection', in lieu of money??  

Patricia,

You're referring to the providers that make $5,000 per month?

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..if that's what Zoe meant when she said she was getting pampered !!!  

just drop off the money without leaving his name with the Bondsmen, last time I checked so would that not raise some serious questions with his own family about how he knows this woman? I think that is a bit much to ask anyone lol. If anything, she should be more worried about what contacts she probably has on her phone and what will happen when it is taken by LE. Just dumb!

CurlyW-  FICTIONAL really?? I just coughed 5000$.. You probably know the lady herself..

She is my best friend and shouldn't be known out loud whether i paid it or not in caps .

So she is OUT if that means anything.


Zoe

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in case something happens or something breaks. Having a savings account and then blowing it on stupid crap with no guarantee of being able to replace those funds, is idiotic. Why bother? I don't use savings for anything other than a real emergency, and that does not include traveling lol.

BUT if one ever did go that route to just up and send me money, you can bet your ass I would be happy to make it UP to him in more ways than one lol. I am not ashamed to work for what I need be it here or at a real job...never have been. Mac, you are truly one of the special guys but don't be taken advantage of.

But hurry...

MY rates are going up shortly.  And since I'm "back by popular demand"...I need to be consistent in raising my rates.

Hey...Why not have the BF there as well.  He and I can give out scores...that might be fun

I have some connections at "The Maury Povich Show" and I'm certain with your vivid imagination that you'll be a hot commodity there.

You're a hoot

I told my Ex boyfriend about the hobby- His eyes watered. We dated for a month and last time i was heading to NY i told him about my Mega client who spoils he rotten and that didnt sit well with him so mutually we agreed to break the relationship. I still have lunch with him from time to time..

So i am SINGLE - Mingling if you can handle a one of a kind, then Bring your A game..

The Doll

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And you told him about your "mega client" why?

That would seem rather immature.

And games...ask London about games.  And then let me know if you are up to playing

Just curious, I do have multi-hour discounts.  Are you thinking of a longer date?  Let me know and I'll PM you with MY rates.  And if they're a bit steep...let's ask the "mega client" if he'll advance you the fees

I promise I won't count the donation out in front of you either!  Just excuse yourself to the bathroom so I can make sure that we're "good to go".

...Honesty is the best policy, right?

Keep that in mind..

I have to assume since she is such a "good friend".

Seriously...your OP was great..

But you're replies are even better.

Call me...I'm telling you that you have a career in sitcoms

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wish i had time to write more.. I really do.

To help me understand and the mass here- What makes this (companions) special to you.. General talk.

Zoe

If she's not at the spa I'm sure she'll call around and get you some money!

That's what friends are for  LOL

No , she is totally a different person. The 3 some never pulled through since i told him the week before.

Zoe

Hmm, that will be one good show.. As long as you guys join in. I would need to feel some muscles .. but can only handle one "muscles".

Who would be my pick? You of course "Fresh meat"

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disability.

legit, and get insurance through that company? I have a policy for my daughter in case something happens to me, but I don't have any type of disability being I am an intern who works for free at teh moment. When I was a Pharm Rep. the insurance was freaking awesome and so were the perks! How I miss just fking doctors and telling myself I was not a whore lol.

but you should take a VERY serious look at the cost/benefits of disability insurance.

Great deal for the insurance agents...not so good for MOST beneficiaries.

And to really be "covered", I would wonder just what you are using as the definitions of income.

Feel free to PM if you want to discuss this further!

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This is why it's good to have income from companion services that do not include private time instead of providing them OTC, IMHO.  I know it's not popular with some of the guys, but it's not an issue for the ones who value your intellectual skills as much as your private ones.  

I'm not saying any of this to be a smart ass either!  

I have this on my business license as "personal services" but that's just the label, so I can pay taxes on it. I doubt I would ever claim disability and have anyone looking into it. I get in a car wreck every six months or so, and never claimed time lost from work so I did not have them looking into my business.  

spending more than you make never was well thought out way of life, no matter what you do for living.

And yeah, having legit business in addition to being a companion makes a lot of difference.

Although when today i was asked "what do you like to do when you have free time" I actually asked "what is this thing FREE TIME"?

Lina

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On serious note, i will take my current lifestyle over mind numbing 9 - 5 in a cell , i mean cubicle

Lina

Just because the posters all clamored for you to "fess up"?

That's BS...you owed this guy the time of his life...I think those were your words.

I guess you probably replaced the BF with the mega client...more profit that way

Tom Cruise is available!  You too would have a great time together with the stories.  And he might have more bucks than the mega client.  Just don't wear your heels...and try and slump over a lot

And I'll bet that a tag team effort needs more than one...heck, by definition that is why it is a "tag team".

Now now...don't bat your eyelashes at me...I'm a sucker for that shit.

ChgoCPA- If you must know please lets email about what went down with the arrangment. I dont feel comfortable writing it out here.

Much drama went down right before the planned "Time of his life"

Zoe

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If its to prove a point- there is nothing to be proven to a total stranger. I have to say i hate that you put me in that spot. If it is to satisfy your ego then sorry darling, not in this lifetime. This is one tough but genuine cookie, so dont take it personal.

Logically me proving or not a fact stands and its not in your benefit SWEETHEART. Stand to your believe/opinion or thought.

With Love

Zoe

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I am sorry if this will come across as arrogant. I am a big girl and i dont play pettiness. I am not going to prove to you anything darling.

Your otherwise opinion is still valid and respected.

Zoe

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Not that it has ever crossed my mind...well, maybe it has

and the commissions on those policies are tops.

It would be kinda tough to do OTC from here as well.

But I guess your answer tells me what I was actually asking