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Obama's views on Gun Control

Posted 6/23/2012 at 12:21:42 PM

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ElGuapo505 Send Mail to ElGuapo505
Obama's views on Gun Control
Curiously, nobody on the Left is caterwauling continuously about more gun control laws. You would think that such an issue would be something BIG with Obama's Leftist base.

Shouldn't we at least have a 500% tax on ammunition for AK-47's and M-16's? Can't we outlaw machine guns? I have a fully auto Thompson (an authentic M1928A1)... shouldn't I be jailed and all my guns confiscated? Am I not a potential mass murderer?

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Posted 6/23/2012 at 1:23:37 PM

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Priapus53 Send Mail to Priapus53
Sounds like someone is using guns as a phallic subsititute
Viagra may help------after all, those who "claim" to be members of "the achiever class" can afford those meds-----;)


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Posted 6/23/2012 at 12:42:04 PM

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FistFullOfFifties
Under a Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints administration...
...there wouldn't be any new taxes. Because they would call them "fees." So, no worries there. Also, the guns and ammo will be made in China, if they aren't already. And the Chinese are not going to sell us machine guns, unless we continue to kill each other. So no worries there either.

That's my caterwauling, as you ham-handedly put it.
 

Posted 6/23/2012 at 2:45:20 PM

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marikod Send Mail to marikod
All great ideas but the way to really do it is to let the market
take care of the problem by making manufacturers of Saturday specials, assault rifles, machine guns, and other weapons of such lethality that there is no legitimate reason for their non-milatary use strictly liable for injuries caused by their weapons.

They would quickly be put out of business, no Second Amendment problem, and we would at least stop the flood of these weapons on the street.

Pointless to focus on the end user when the real bad guy is the manufacturer.

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Posted 6/24/2012 at 2:09:05 PM

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willywonka4u
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A lot of people on the left is bitching and moaning for more gun control laws....
....but Obama doesn't seem to be listening. Obama's more interested in expanding gun liberties.

Oh, by the way, I had a Tommy gun for a little while. It was heavy as fuck, and it would fucking jam all the time. And 45ACP ammo ain't cheap. It was cool to look at, and it was fun to clean, but I sold that fucker. I had planned to replace it with an AK, but the money ended up getting used up on wimmin.
 

Posted 6/23/2012 at 6:02:08 PM

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St. Croix Send Mail to St. Croix
I think you're on to something
Read the attached article where a fast food employee stabs a customer. I believe this is more rampant than we know.

Is the employee really at fault mari? Heavens no mari! Like you said, it's pointless to focus on the end user, or end customer in this case. Isn't Del Taco really responsible for their 3rd world like working conditions and pay? Maybe the real culprit is the cutlery manufacturer. Do they even have cutlery at Del Taco? It sure would help when I'm eating one of their fine $.99 bean and cheese burritos. I think Mexico is really at fault for breeding future illegal, oops undocumented, fast food workers. Wait a minute mari, the real culprit are the teachers union. What are they teaching our young students, or should I say not teaching?

So who do you think the customer is going to sue, Gabriel Villalba, who is really a fine upstanding fast food worker who lost it when no doubt the customer probably ordered something that wasn't on the menu?

Maybe we should force gun owners to carry liability insurance mari. We all know car manufacturers are clearly responsible for deaths on the highway. Don't we force drivers to carry liability insurance.

I think you're on to something mari.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/06/fast-food-employee-allegedly-stabs-customer-in-dispute-over-order.html
 

Posted 6/24/2012 at 2:13:47 PM

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willywonka4u
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Mari, Mari, Mari....
...you do realize that assault rifles are almost never used in street crime, right? It's also absurd to say they have no legitimate purpose for non-military use.

Guns are designed to shoot projectiles that are designed to kill living things. Suing them for shooting projectiles that kill living things is stupid.
 

Posted 6/23/2012 at 5:29:59 PM

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marikod Send Mail to marikod
Here is what you are missing my friend - cutlery has many useful social purposes
     So if  the employee misuses a steak knife to stab an annoying customer, there is no policy basis to hold the manufacturer liable. Saturday night specials, machines guns, and weapons of similar lethality have no real use other than to kill people (please don't tell me you need a machine gun for hunting those Rats in California)- and the manufacturer knows that.

     So why should the manufacturer escape liability for selling a product that has no non -military use but to kill people? Besides you are hung up on a fault-based system for determining liability. I say let's use an economic risk spreading model. If we hold the manufacturer strictly liable for deaths caused by his product, he can charge a higher price, and take his profits and buy liability insurance - that way we spread the cost of gun-caused deaths among the the broadest class of users of guns -the manufacturer, his customer and the liability insurer. The victim gets compensated and the manufacturer still makes a littl profit at least until he gets so many suits he goes bankrupt. Yay.

But you are right about one thing St. Croix - I am on to something.
 

Posted 6/23/2012 at 6:57:41 PM

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St. Croix Send Mail to St. Croix
You do know that I was being sarcastic with my response.
I realize this topic, like a few of your other favorites, are not open to possible changes in opinion, and I understand that. I'm just here to occasionally jerk your blue devil chain when those topics arise.

P.S. Different topic, I need to apologize for arguing for Jamie Dimon's resignation. After doing a bit more due diligence, and add the fact that he is the best banker we have, I understand your investment, ALBEIT a bit early, and irrespective of the latest downgrades. Grant me that mari.



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Posted 6/24/2012 at 5:23:15 AM

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marikod Send Mail to marikod
Speaking of JPM, I 've already written my post -"Let's go to Vegas
on our JPM profits, party with the hottest ladies, and  feast on the bone in rib eye at Emeralds' Steak House. Oh, I forgot - you don't have any JPM profits."

    My computer is automatically programmed to make this post on November 1 when JPM will be back in the low to mid forties. The only way to save yourself from this Board embarrassment is to follow these demands:

1. Swear allegiance to Duke forever.
2. Not one word about UCLA between November and April.
3. And, um, buy some JPM now while its still down.
 

Posted 6/24/2012 at 3:43:25 PM

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marikod Send Mail to marikod
Well, I wish you would tell the Mexican drug cartels and the Terry family
      Both seem to labor under the illusion that AK-47s were used in the shooting that left Mr. Terry dead.
In fact, isn;t there some scndal going on about this very issue?

      But you did pique my curiosity. What is the legitimate non-milatary use of an assault rifle unless you are poaching elephants in the Serengetti?.
 

Posted 6/24/2012 at 5:50:53 PM

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willywonka4u
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You want a legitimate non-military use of an assault rifle?
How about enjoying firing some rounds at the range? Or working on your survival skills? What if you're camping and you're approached by a bear? Would you like to rely on a 9mm to take him out?

Yes, I know, I'm reaching. Well, what if you were a victim of a home invasion by multiple armed assailants? Watch this video. If this happened to me, which I hope it never does, then the my weapon of choice I would pick to keep me safe would be an AK-47.

Related Link: HOME INVASION SHOOT OUT !!! "HOME OWNER SHOOTS BACK" - PIMA COUNTY SHERRIFS DEPT.
 

Posted 6/24/2012 at 5:45:05 PM

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marikod Send Mail to marikod
Now, let's weigh the examples you gave against the harm caused by assault rifles
Let's see.
      The enjoyment of firing an assault rifle on a firing range. Do they actually allow that? Certainly not on some the indoor ranges I've seen in the city. Couldn't you get the same enjoyment out of shooting a normal rifle?

     Working on your survival skills? In Washington DC? Where do you live? In my experience the biggest danger is getting the dreaded boot put on my car bc I refuse to pay parking tickets. But even Sappybullwriter thought was a ridiculous example.

     Defense of bears? Somehow I fear Davy Crockett is turning over in his grave. Nuff said except I hope assault rifles are not allowed in the few national parks where we have grizzilies.

     Now balance this "need" against the hundreds of innocent bystanders killed by assault rifles, the many Mexican LE personnel taken out this way by the cartels, and the F & F case itself.

And thank god DEA Agent Lee Page was not demonstrating an AK 47 when he shot himself in the foot.

 

Posted 6/24/2012 at 8:05:34 PM

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willywonka4u
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I was speaking generally, Mari...
...I wasn't talking about my personal need for an assault rifle. I would never likely stumble upon a rattlesnake, but I'm glad that people can buy a Taurus Judge in case that's something that might happen to them.

All I'm trying to demonstrate is that different tools are used in self defense. I'm not going to try to carry an AR-15 concealed, and I wouldn't use a Kel Tec P3AT to defend myself from a gang of looters. Just as I wouldn't use a hammer to tighten a screw or pliers to loosen one. I'm sure a lot of people have busted thumbs and busted skulls with hammers, it doesn't mean that hammers should be illegal.

It also makes no sense to me that someone who couldn't handle a gun without shooting their foot off should tell someone who does know how to handle a firearm what tools they should be allowed to use to defend their life. I don't know how to fix a car, should I tell a mechanic what tools he should be able to use? I'm no lawyer, should I tell you what legal precedents you're allowed to use?

Yes, the Mexican cartels are proof enough that gunowners can use guns to commit crimes. Yet, if guns are so bad, why do the cops who arrest them insist on having guns too? Besides, we both know if marijuana was legal, those cartels would be put out of business tomorrow. A lot of the cartels grow in California, yet strangely, they sell the stuff in the rest of the country. It seems that Californians, who can get a hold of quality lab tested medical marijuana thumb their noses at that cartel shwag.
 

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