I made no such claim, so no need to rush defending yourself. I directed guys (sending me PMs) to FKS for any questions regarding the earlier post on this website about, what you called an ex-FKS girl, providing BBFS.
Hello,
A new poll is up. Just keeping u aware.
Check the link
Bond
I just wanted to thank our Toronto moderator for bringing this to my attention. I would also like to say that I just voted, was able to see the poll results and am very concerned. As of 1:06AM these are where the numbers stand:
Would you see a provider who offers BBFS?
37% No F'ing way!
13% Doubtful, but maybe?
11% Sure, but not just because of the BBFS.
37% Hell yes, I would go right now.
Total Votes: 1155
WTF!?!?!?! Am I the only one a little concerned by this? Apparently not, as per the link to a similar Boston thread. But what does surprise me is how rampant and in demand it seems to be. Toronto keep playing it safe!
Why anyone would play Russian Roulette with their health is beyond my realm of understanding. The percentages in this poll make me very uncomfortable.
I think you should check your facts before you mention FKS in this thread. That is one agency
that i can guarantee promotes safe and healthy sex lives.
see this link: http://www.frenchkisssociety.com/ladies.html
They ask their ladies to provide them with STI exams and Ive dealt with this referal agency for years, I can vouch that BBFS has not ever and will never be on the menu. Im sure any other lady that has dealt with them can say the same.
Thanks,
Catherine
I'm not accusing you or anyone else of offering it. But I know what I've been offered and who offered it.
This stuff goes on everywhere and we need to stop pretending it isn't. The same guys who get BBFS from girls off BP, go and get BBBJ from 'safe' girls two days later. I play safe but I know it isn't really safe since I'm with girls who either offer BBFS to other guys or some of their other clients do it with other girls.
I like the new TER policy cause it will make us a little less delusional. Except some people will abuse it with lies and others will offer it and just deny reports.
In response to niceTOguy and the rest of the board:
Well that's news to me! Maybe I've been living in a sand pit somewhere. BP where SOME, not all, but SOME ladies are desperate for a quick buck and on the marginalized end of this industry I can believe. FKS? Try again! Unless you have first hand knowledge of such encounters I would recommend you don't slander anybody's reputation on this board. I am a member of FKS I do not engage in, support, or associate myself with ladies or gentlemen who engage in that sort of activity. Giselle and Charlotte keep a good ear out on the ladies associated with our little circle to ensure that any one person is not engaging in unsafe practices, ruining the reputation of the group or defaming their brand.
What I am concerned about with such open and unmoderated dialogue is that, as opposed to it being used for good, it will be abused and distorted. Steps need to be taken by TER admin to protect girls from being extorted and/or defamed because of some slighted client, or some random guy with a chip on his shoulder.
The increasingly disturbing results of this poll have made it clear to me that I need to hurry up and reach my monetary goal sooner than later in order to retire.
The findings of this pole are absolutely terrifying. The idea that so many would not only risk their health, but the health of their spouse and the health of the community in general is appalling. To the people that voted for BBFS: If you want to gamble, go to the casino. But don't gamble with something that is this serious because it affects more than just you.
A poll is a common tool to assess views of people. It is definitely revealing that almost half the people opted for BBFS, shocking, but a FACT. This is what many clients desire, does not mean that they are getting it or will go for it. Of course everybody wants good health, but we all opted to take risks when we decided to go hobbying or providing, BBFS only adds to that risk. What boundaries do you want to draw in this business is based on individual's perception of risks and choices.
Regarding FKS, I am surprised to notice the clamor. Was it not a month ago that on this very board a FKS provider was being exposed for providing this service and removing competion by outing providers? There was even a link to a blog on her saying the same things. The provider then pulled down her site. So nobody should claim to be holier than thou here.
She was not an FKS provider or affiliate. Her connection to FKS had been terminated a long time ago.
Thanks for PMs requesting further details and the name of the provider from FKS. This information can best be provided by FKS or somebody who can recall the post on TER a month ago.
-- Modified on 11/24/2011 5:32:39 AM
She never advertised here, nor was she reviewed here to the best of my knowledge. Quite frankly, unless you've personally had interaction with her in such a way, you're just fuelling gossip, which is exactly what my concern with this whole poll is going to start.
All it takes is (like Nia said) a guy with a chip on his shoulder, a slighted client or a catty girl and then all hell is going to break loose in finger pointing.
-- Modified on 11/24/2011 8:20:38 AM
Thank you very much for your clarification. I completely agree with you and confirm that I have not personally met this provider, only corresponded and she sent me her face pics. But then came the post on TER and I dropped my plans to meet her. Anyway I did not intend any harm to FKS and appreciate your post.
All it takes is (like Nia said) a guy with a chip on his shoulder, a slighted client or a catty girl and then all hell is going to break loose in finger pointing.
-- Modified on 11/24/2011 8:20:38 AM
I find it ridiculous that someone with no reviews is claiming that one of the most reputable agencies, if not the most high end, offers such a service. I myself, like the other FKS Independents that have worked hard to achieve their reputation value their health and would not take such risks. I think I speak for all of us when I say that you have no business making such claims.
I made no such claim, so no need to rush defending yourself. I directed guys (sending me PMs) to FKS for any questions regarding the earlier post on this website about, what you called an ex-FKS girl, providing BBFS.
PLease I am new to all of this, could somebody please tell me,....what exactly is BBFKS?!?
Having sex without using a condom. There is a poll, so propose your choice and welcome to TER!!!!
BBFS = bare back full service (intercourse without a condom)
FKS - French Kiss Society (a collective of independent ladies based out of Toronto and Montreal)
not equivalent contrary to the rumour mill and back channels may be saying
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Charlotte Sinclair - Independent Montreal Based Escort & FKS Webmistress