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mongo19621954 22 Reviews 732 reads
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It is pretty damned unlikely that ANY appointment is going to be a "sting".  Much more likely (IMO) that you'll get robbed or ripped off - but that's not likely either.  

My GUESS is that as a matter of efficiency - as long as you aren't talking about picking up street walkers for "car dates", it's just too damned expensive to set up an outcall sting in terms of manpower per arrest.  These guys have budgets too.... So I think it would be less likely.  Doesn't mean that it can't happen.  

I don't see this as a reason to prefer incall to outcall.  It would be like deciding you won't drive a convertible because in a convertible you are more vulnerable to someone dropping a brick on you from an interstate overpass.  There are MUCH better reasons not to drive a convertible....

ctriver4242164 reads

It seems as though all the LE stings I've read about are incall from a BP ad. What is the likelihood that an outcall provider would be LE? If I booked a provider as an outcall could I be fairly sure she wasn't LE even if she had no reviews?  

NO reviews, you can't be fairly sure of ANYTHING.  Could be LE, could be a mugging, could be a robbery at gun point, etc.  

It is pretty damned unlikely that ANY appointment is going to be a "sting".  Much more likely (IMO) that you'll get robbed or ripped off - but that's not likely either.  

My GUESS is that as a matter of efficiency - as long as you aren't talking about picking up street walkers for "car dates", it's just too damned expensive to set up an outcall sting in terms of manpower per arrest.  These guys have budgets too.... So I think it would be less likely.  Doesn't mean that it can't happen.  

I don't see this as a reason to prefer incall to outcall.  It would be like deciding you won't drive a convertible because in a convertible you are more vulnerable to someone dropping a brick on you from an interstate overpass.  There are MUCH better reasons not to drive a convertible....

In addition to that, there are also concerns for female officer safety. Notice how all stings that are done when trying to bust providers are frequently becoming ones where the cop gets to fuck the provider then arrest her, yet you're unlikely to find one where a female officer is doing such with one of you guys. There's an assumption, because of sexism, that men should be able to do that, in addition to being able to overpower a "hostile" provider, and an inverse assumption that a female cop wouldn't want to because she's a woman, an may not be able to handle a "hostile" client.  

If you pay attention to police blotters and news reporting (first thing I do when researching a city to visit), female officer arrests are usually done with street walkers/car dates, or in a hotel room and you never see anything but that.

you are insane to see anyone other than a reviewed provider. Incall or outcall. LE, and MUCH WORSE can be there to bite you in the ass. Some bites you cannot recover from.

If the provider is reviewed, then I doubt you will see much difference in risk between incall and outcall. Generally, it is ASSUMED that an outcall is a (very) slightly lower risk than an incall, because a "bad guy" does not "control the space".

I have seen unreviewed/newbie providers based upon "vouches" from trustworthy friends we have in common, and I have seen a few using a "two-Hop outcall".  

Ultimately, there is nothing safe or without risk in what we do - whether provider or client.

I agree completely.  Everything is about mitigating and eliminating risk.  Why see a provider that is not reviewed if there are plenty of reviewed providers?  A few minutes (or perhaps seconds in your case given that you are a newbie) of happiness isn't worth the risks that you are identifying.    

Cops like to control the environment so an outcall "sting" is more likely for us to run into. As far as the no reviews I would check and see how long she's been around, if she has active social media, if her site is legitimate. Probably more likely that a fake girl would have simply a phone number than a nice website, twitter, instagram, posting all over boards.

For anything; however, we all can work diligently to mitigate any risks. There have been cases of so called providers doing outcalls and low and behold, they are a police officer. No matter what, all aspects of this world bear the risk of being infiltrated; P411 has been before.  

In addition, I would imagine you have less to worry about during an outcall scenario compared to those of us on the provider side of things. Also, while reviews may give you a sense of legitimacy, it is likely possible the provider is just new OR they have a no review policy due to the legal ramifications of having reviews. Take a look at her website, current adverts, social media presence, et cetera.  

At the end of the day, we can give you all the advice but it's your decision. Do what makes you feel comfortable and what you feel is safest for you.  

LJ

It seems like you are contemplating seeing a lady without reviews......Toftt can be very risky.I would never invite a escort to my place if she didn't have any reviews.You risk getting robbed,beat,or even worse....arrested

Research the provider-remember google is your friend... Just google her, plug in her number, use the search feature on ter, you can find out a lot of any provider by doing so.....  

Most stings are set as INCALLS cause most clients rather visit & most can't host.... Lol

GaGambler356 reads

Part of it is "return on resources expended" the same as a high volume provider, but even more so. With the same time expended to make a single outcall bust, LE can make several incall busts. With an outcall they are "one and done" with an incall sting they can and do set up a revolving door of both hookers and johns alike and can literally get dozens of arrests in a single day operating out of a cheap hotel room.

The other is that LE likes to "control the room" and this is almost impossible to do in an outcall situation, especially to a private residence. It's one thing to send a 200 lb man into a 100 lb woman's incall location, it's quite another to risk the safety of a woman who is going to be alone in a house/room with a guy who wants and expects to fuck her without having any "eyes" on the situation. The risk to the undercover female officer is increased exponentially on an "outcall sting" and because of this they "almost" never happen.

That said, there are a whole bunch of other bad things that can happen when invited an unreviewed hooker into your home. I completely agree with the consensus that by and large its a VERY bad idea, especially for a newbie.

I wouldn't recommend seeing any providers without reviews. Especially outcall. Stick to TER not BP.

Posted By: ctriver424
It seems as though all the LE stings I've read about are incall from a BP ad. What is the likelihood that an outcall provider would be LE? If I booked a provider as an outcall could I be fairly sure she wasn't LE even if she had no reviews?  

As someone fairly new to this hobby listen to the advice given, these people are pros within the hobby.

If you choose to use bp regardless of the aforementioned advice you should have a plan and use common sense.

Never have someone come to your house, get a hotel room the $ is not not that much more. As the providers do, give the room number when the person arrives at the hotel. Better yet send the person to the room across the hall so you can see 1) if it's the person from bp and 2) if other persons are on either side of the door. The peep hole has limited field of view. I am not advocating for you to do this.  

Listen to the other people on this board. Look at reviews and do research, TER should not be your only source, as others have stated use google, P4, and various sites.

I tried BP girls between sbs, mixed results. It was before I knew about reviews. I have not had LE come to my hotel, but it's too risky and I don't do it now. I now go for reviewed girls only.

Posted By: ctriver424
It seems as though all the LE stings I've read about are incall from a BP ad. What is the likelihood that an outcall provider would be LE? If I booked a provider as an outcall could I be fairly sure she wasn't LE even if she had no reviews?  
I don't have reviews cause clients don't want to write reviews on pay to play websites because it's illegal business. Alot of clients don't want whole world to know pay professional.

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