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i don't make excuses
rickyrickyjames 7 Reviews 274 reads
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If the provider misrepresented herself or her services, i just leave. If i'm not feeling it, i leave the donation and go, i don't ever go through with a booking i'm not feeling, no point in it, it'll just leave a bad taste in my mouth. I just consider the money lost as part of the game and make better choices in the future.

To Bail.

Just had one from a provder I'd seen before, 10 minutes into the session I knew I wasn't going to enjoy it.  Lots of reasons, but I just knew.  

I wish I had a prepared excuse to bail, and worse she had came to my hotel, but I went through the sessions and after she'd left I had nothing but regrets.

The main one was I just didn't have the balls to say, I'm just not feeling it, get out.  Certainly something more tactiful than that, but you get my meaning.

I now have devised my own plan of extraction for any similar occurence, (and I'm willing to share, just PM me), but I'm really curious oh board of such sage advice, what do you guys do??

How long does it take for you to know the session is going to suck and how do you politely(?), bail??

I am not into fucking bloody lipped gals who were just dragged unconscious down the aisle on their back. I am very shallow that way. :)

GaGambler517 reads

and usually when I get that feeling, I put off disrobing and see if I can "improve the mood" with some still clothed foreplay like making out on the bed with our clothes still on. 99% of the time you just know and rather than trying to force it, I usually just bail with a "this isn't working" and I just go. The amount of money I leave depends on whether I feel misled, ripped off, or simply that there was a lack of chemistry. Sometimes I leave NOTHING, other times a token, still other times maybe up to half her rate, but NEVER do I give her full freight. If I get a plate of food too disgusting to eat in a restaurant I don't pay for it, Maybe I will pay for the appetizer and a tip for the poor girl who had to serve it to me, but I do NOT pay full price as it only encourages bad behavior.

More often I know the moment I walk in the door and she is NOT the girl advertised, I don't feel any need at all to be POLITE in those cases, after all would you be POLITE to anyone who was trying to steal from you?

-- Modified on 4/11/2017 11:41:54 AM

Okay Gambler. You're an asshole and all, but generally I agree with you and think you're actually a gentlemen where we ladies of the night are concerned. So I'm curious. Do you feel it's "encouraging bad behavior" to pay the full hour rate if the problem is just that you don't feel chemistry?? Obviously, if the pics were misleading, the lady isn't trying, there's a problem, etc then I think leaving without paying anything is fully justified. But if everything is as advertised and the girl holds up her end and is putting in effort, but you're just not feeling it- what then?

Posted By: GaGambler
and usually when I get that feeling, I put off disrobing and see if I can "improve the mood" with some still clothed foreplay like making out on the bed with our clothes still on. 99% of the time you just know and rather than trying to force it, I usually just bail with a "this isn't working" and I just go. The amount of money I leave depends on whether I feel misled, ripped off, or simply that there was a lack of chemistry. Sometimes I leave NOTHING, other times a token, still other times maybe up to half her rate, but NEVER do I give her full freight. If I get a plate of food too disgusting to eat in a restaurant I don't pay for it, Maybe I will pay for the appetizer and a tip for the poor girl who had to serve it to me, but I do NOT pay full price as it only encourages bad behavior.  
   
 More often I know the moment I walk in the door and she is NOT the girl advertised, I don't feel any need at all to be POLITE in those cases, after all would you be POLITE to anyone who was trying to steal from you?  

-- Modified on 4/11/2017 11:41:54 AM

GaGambler277 reads

because, horn dog that I am, the ONLY way the chemistry or lack thereof would be enough reason for me to walk is if either her appearance was so bad I couldn't bring myself to go through with the session in which case she has earned a big fat ZERO, or she was such a bitch upon first meeting her that I would also turn around and walk.

Now in a case like what you suggest, I am a complete and total horn dog. If she looks as good as she advertises AND she and I start the session only for me to "not be feeling it", I would close my eyes, think of the best sex I have ever had, bust a nut and leave early. AND yes, I would leave the full donation. lol

I suppose to put it crassly, once my dick goes into her vagina, I owe the full donation, unless I suppose she leaped up out of bed and went and hid in the bathroom the moment I made penetration. lol

Okay, that makes sense. I took your previous post to mean that you were okay with leaving no donation if you just didn't feel chemistry. I was surprised because even when I disagree with you, you're usually making a fair/logical/good faith argument for your position.

I agree, though. Someone can be just as hot as their pictures advertise, but being a bitch is still terrible behavior and worthy of a walk away with no donation. "Not trying" and/or dishonesty, in any regard, are worthy of the same, IMO.

Posted By: GaGambler
because, horn dog that I am, the ONLY way the chemistry or lack thereof would be enough reason for me to walk is if either her appearance was so bad I couldn't bring myself to go through with the session in which case she has earned a big fat ZERO, or she was such a bitch upon first meeting her that I would also turn around and walk.  
   
 Now in a case like what you suggest, I am a complete and total horn dog. If she looks as good as she advertises AND she and I start the session only for me to "not be feeling it", I would close my eyes, think of the best sex I have ever had, bust a nut and leave early. AND yes, I would leave the full donation. lol  
   
 I suppose to put it crassly, once my dick goes into her vagina, I owe the full donation, unless I suppose she leaped up out of bed and went and hid in the bathroom the moment I made penetration. lol

This is an example of why I usually avoid appointments of more than one hour. I can't really tell anything until we get into the sex part. Some girls just don't do it for me for whatever reason. It happens.

If it's a one hour appointment I usually stick it out an hope it gets better. If it's a 90 minute/ two hour appointment you are in an awkward position. You are not just out the extra money you need to come up with an excuse.

Just grab your cell phone and say "OMG" I just got a text that the wife needs me to run an errand or there is a crisis at the office. Trust me, the hooker won't care. They love a guy who leaves early. :)

If she has a bad attitude, I'm going to notice that within the first few minutes, and it always means the session will be bad. So far, I have always completed the mission, but there were regrets afterwards. Up until a couple of years ago, I always did outcall, and it's more trouble to get rid of a provider at my place. Incall, it would be easy enough to just walk away.

you're talking about bailing WITHOUT paying.  The only time I would do this is when there is a material misrepresentation either in her appearance or her menu.  When I book with an indie, I always ask of the photos are current and accurate, and if her TER profile menu is accurate.  This eliminates 90% of potential unpleasant surprises.  If I get there and its not as advertised, I will leave without paying.  

Otherwise, its on me for not doing better research to make sure the girl's style is a match for what I like.  Even though I'm not that happy about it, I will soldier through at least half the session, pay her and then leave early, telling her I have a business meeting.  You never know who talks to who in this business, so its better to maintain a good reputation with ALL providers, even if you picked the wrong the girl and had a bad session.  

(including the menu), and therefore should not be expected to fulfill whatever someone else wrote incorrectly about her.

Also, if you ask her if her TER profile is accurate, that feels like a legal gray area to me.

I believe Providers can file a problem report and TER will change things if the profile of services is not accurate.

I tried changing Greek to YMMV and they kept it as yes...So by his reasoning if someone wants Greek and doesn't find a way to ask before hand and I don't want to do Greek he should be able to walk out without paying?

When I have asked for something to be added and changed they did so in a timely manner. And one time they told me no to something being removed and when I inquired why they told me why and also offered advice on how to go about it and to get back to them. I followed the suggestion and then let them know and they took care of it.  
That is just my experience, but maybe try again.

YoMaMaDo343 reads

As GGA said if you feel like you were pulled in on a B&S and the person is nowhere near the person depicted then just bail within 10 seconds, offer Cab fair + what you believe to be decent. If someone is having a bad day and trying to take it out on you then I believe you have the right to bail and again follow the monetary rules as above.  

I have had to do this and it simply isn't worth making up lies or even worrying about making up lies, this isn't a GF or Wife, this is a Business deal and some go badly. I always simply pay and leave or ask them to. The money you may be out is nothing compared to the Drama that can come if someone feels slighted or off-put not to mention if they have a Manager they have to explain to.

Maybe it is my age but anymore most things are simply not worth getting worked up about.  

Good Luck.

-- Modified on 4/11/2017 1:46:22 PM

I can only assume it's not that the pics were inaccurate.  I also wonder if you are asking about a polite way to ask her to leave with or without paying her her full rate?  If you are asking how to get out of it without paying her full rate when you have seen her before I think this would be the wrong thing to do.  If she took the time to get ready and drive to your incall than I think you need to pay her full rate regardless.  The only exception I could think of for not paying her full rate would be a very bad attitude problem (objectively) from her part or if she's really drunk or high.  

...especially the "Poof. And then you're gone".

It's not just his advice, but how he speaks - steady, even, reassuring tone of voice does it every time.

He could talk a dog off a meat wagon.

The one time I bailed I got a bad vibe in the parking lot. Every other session gone wrong I stuck it out. There have been a variety of reasons. Once, she sat on the other side of the room. Once, there were teenagers in the other room when I got out of the shower. Another time, she brought out the saran wrap for daty. Once, she was cleaning the toilet in her lingerie. One time a guy answered the door. Twice, one of the doubles partners just sat there. Of course, all of those were back in the days when I took a lot of chances.

Because otherwise, I'd just leave and not care what she thought. I have, in fact, left early many times without explanation.

There's only once I wanted to bail without paying, and that was when the provider was high. (I went through with it, and though I wouldn't do it again, it ended up being good.) I don't think I would have bothered with an excuse.

I like when they don't want to leave, but you can tell the rest of the day has come on their mind.

But if they're bailing early every time, to me that's an insult and - while it's his right - I don't like it, and won't book with him again if he's doing it every time.

And that has happened - consecutive dates, the guy books 6 hours, and leaves in two, then the next date books 2 hours, and leaves in 1.

While I get paid more, that's not all that I'm here for.  

Some ladies love it though - so keep doing what you're doing lol!

-- Modified on 4/11/2017 6:55:24 PM

I never book that much time. My sessions are always either an hour or 90 minutes, and I never finish in less than a half an hour. So we're not talking oodles of time left on the clock.

Posted By: TheNudeOpera
I like when they don't want to leave, but you can tell the rest of the day has come on their mind.  
   
 But if they're bailing early every time, to me that's an insult and - while it's his right - I don't like it, and won't book with him again if he's doing it every time.  
   
 And that has happened - consecutive dates, the guy books 6 hours, and leaves in two, then the next date books 2 hours, and leaves in 1.  
   
 While I get paid more, that's not all that I'm here for.  
   
 Some ladies love it though - so keep doing what you're doing lol!

-- Modified on 4/11/2017 6:55:24 PM

She grabs the envelope. I grab my shorts. We hit the streets.  

After the "All clear. False alarm." clearance, it's usually too late and not worth the effort to pick up where we left off.

Posted By: frontpage
To Bail.  
   
 Just had one from a provder I'd seen before, 10 minutes into the session I knew I wasn't going to enjoy it.  Lots of reasons, but I just knew.    
   
 I wish I had a prepared excuse to bail, and worse she had came to my hotel, but I went through the sessions and after she'd left I had nothing but regrets.  
   
 The main one was I just didn't have the balls to say, I'm just not feeling it, get out.  Certainly something more tactiful than that, but you get my meaning.  
   
 I now have devised my own plan of extraction for any similar occurence, (and I'm willing to share, just PM me), but I'm really curious oh board of such sage advice, what do you guys do??  
   
 How long does it take for you to know the session is going to suck and how do you politely(?), bail??

You had seen her before?or was that a typo? If you've seen her before,what changed?

Posted By: frontpage
To Bail.  
   
 Just had one from a provder I'd seen before, 10 minutes into the session I knew I wasn't going to enjoy it.  Lots of reasons, but I just knew.    
   
 I wish I had a prepared excuse to bail, and worse she had came to my hotel, but I went through the sessions and after she'd left I had nothing but regrets.  
   
 The main one was I just didn't have the balls to say, I'm just not feeling it, get out.  Certainly something more tactiful than that, but you get my meaning.  
   
 I now have devised my own plan of extraction for any similar occurence, (and I'm willing to share, just PM me), but I'm really curious oh board of such sage advice, what do you guys do??  
   
 How long does it take for you to know the session is going to suck and how do you politely(?), bail??

Skyfyre287 reads

Why the need for excuse if either party does not feel comfortable going through a deal? All that is needed is a polite and simple "Sorry but I'm not feeling it. It's just not working out."

I'm asking a serious question here.

Did you have some kind of a hormonal change due to something you ate or drank?

Did she smell? Was she drunk? Was she on drugs? Was she angry? Did she look completely different than the first appointment/not prepared? Did you expect bareback, then realize she wouldn't give it?

There has to be more detail to offer any type of advice for you.

I prefer, if a man isn't going to enjoy himself, that he leave. If I know he is not enjoying himself, I will actually ask him. I have in the past asked clients to leave because they didn't seem to be enjoying themselves - with a full refund.

If I ask them to leave, I give a full refund. If they show up, I'm accurate and "as promised" - I expect full payment - as I would do (and have done) the same if I've asked them to leave - even half way through the session after the first pop. lol

Did she say "no" to bareback services, and then her demeanor changed?

There are too many scenarios possible that there is no straight answer.

But if she did nothing wrong, and was what you knew you would get, if I were you, I would put down the full amount - nobody wants to be cheap. It's embarrassing.

It really was my fault. I tried a date with a beautiful lady who is just too young for me. I was uncomfortable with her age and look and I think she became uncomfortable too.  

It didn't help that a contact lense fell out on her leg during DATY and that kind of freaked her out. I stopped to  put the lense back in my eye.  
I got up and said thanks, then got dressed and left.  
I was there for about 30 minutes of an hour visit. I of course left the full donation because it was my poor choice.  
Since then, I haven't made that mistake again. But, to be fair, I am a serial repeater and I don't venture out to new ladies very often.

There was an occasion where we met at the bar of my hotel. We talked but I felt she wasn't feeling me, the vibe was luke warm, but she was hot. So in our room, we were still at a disconnect. Then she went to change into some sexy lingerie and when she exit the bathroom, I went for it and we had a blast. I guess sometimes you get those "opening night jitters" but I loved my time with her so much that we're meeting again in Vegas, very soon...so the moral of the story is... I don't know shit!

if she's getting her fee for showing up, then I'm not sure she would really care. I think early on I would have been offended had that happen, but realizing things just aren't happening for one reason or another on occasion has changed that. Im not sure about others, but if i was still getting paid, id be ok with "not happening, I'm out"... though its not really something I ever worry about much anyway.

If the provider misrepresented herself or her services, i just leave. If i'm not feeling it, i leave the donation and go, i don't ever go through with a booking i'm not feeling, no point in it, it'll just leave a bad taste in my mouth. I just consider the money lost as part of the game and make better choices in the future.

A gal I'd seen numerous times on & off over several years...  I'd set up a return engagement.  She called me, unhappy before I arrived.  I'd just picked up our lunch I was bringing with me.   She started in again when I walked in the door.  So I knew at that point.  I calmed her down (an extra half hour but not out of my time).  I knew it was already sideways... I had a session but it wasn't anything great.    
I understand something was going on in her personal life... she shouldn't have booked the session.  
I really wish I'd put the food down & the donation...  I had promised her I was coming when she called earlier, so the other half is the promise she's get the donation...  but I think I should have tried to walk out.  "You are way too stresed to have a good time. I think I should go."  
I wonder if she'd have let me walk (without trying to convince me to stay).  Might she have gotten her head together?  I'll never know.  
I knew as the door closed, I'd not be going back.              

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