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TER verification of reviews
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Posted By: HarmonyMassage
A good place to start is by not giving away memberships. Or at least, verify with the provider that she has seen him. Maybe if we could set up requests and appointments through this site first, and THEN allow a review, after it's clear the provider and client have agreed to meet. It would also allow a chance to mention NCNS and repetitive cancellations fairly. Am I the only one who feels this way?
Daughter, daughter, don't you know
You're not the first to feel just so?
So let me say, before I go,
It's worth it any way.

Some day we all may be surprised,
We'll wake, and open up our eyes
And then at last, we'll realize
The whole world feels this way.

One of many suggestions (on the S&P board) was that TER issue a verification code number to the Provider upon scheduling a meeting. The client gets the number from the Provider upon arrival. The client uses that number to authenticate his review when submitted.  Sounds like it could work!

Basically: (1) WAY too complicated! (2) Not all Providers are "active" on TER. For example, AMPs would have no part of codes and verification numbers. (3) Like TER would want to be involved with all that???

Maybe you can come up with a better suggestion?

I apologize if this has been addressed before, I'd be surprised if it hasn't! I've been noticing an ongoing problem regarding fake reviews. I see it mentioned on the boards a lot. Recently, I got an email requesting an appt. Naturally, I plugged in his email here to see if he was active. The result showed 2 reviews. At that point, I let him know about the light screening required and asked him if he had any references. Much to my surprise, he told me "I've only seen one provider", and gave me her info. It was NOT one of the providers he reviewed here. I emailed the 2 providers he reviewed, and they had never heard of him. He checked out fine with the reference he gave me, and was a nice guy. Nothing bad. But, honestly I was initially nervous to still see him....it was clear he wrote the reviews to gain free VIP. WHY WHY WHY...is this a thing?! I strongly feel that Reviewers should NOT be rewarded with access to our info for simply writing fake reviews, or even real ones. TER is unwilling to remove fake reviews, which isn't cool. So...Why is ok for a client to write whatever they want? Don't you want an accurate account? If not, what's the point of this? Why is ok for someone to claim they had FS for a massage price, when FS didn't occur, and if it did...it wouldn't be at the massage rate. Now others might expect the same. In one of my reviews I learned that I gave a CBJ. Interesting...I've never done one. It would be great if we could trust the legitimacy of this site and its reviews more. A good place to start is by not giving away memberships. Or at least, verify with the provider that she has seen him. Maybe if we could set up requests and appointments through this site first, and THEN allow a review, after it's clear the provider and client have agreed to meet. It would also allow a chance to mention NCNS and repetitive cancellations fairly. Am I the only one who feels this way? I realize this site is set up for the clients, not providers..but I would think you guys would be just as upset...this is just one reason I prefer to go through P411. What makes this site any more legit than other review sites that are free? (Hint: nothing) Ok, my rant is over! Lol

a review is fake.

Did you report the review to TER? Have the reviewees reported it?

At the end of the day policing of fake reviews is probably 90% on the provider side. And, if the providers are not TER members TER has no good way to validate the charge of a review being fake -- though they could just the contact information in the review I suspect the preferred approach would be a PM.

Posted By: HarmonyMassage
I apologize if this has been addressed before, I'd be surprised if it hasn't! I've been noticing an ongoing problem regarding fake reviews. I see it mentioned on the boards a lot. Recently, I got an email requesting an appt. Naturally, I plugged in his email here to see if he was active. The result showed 2 reviews. At that point, I let him know about the light screening required and asked him if he had any references. Much to my surprise, he told me "I've only seen one provider", and gave me her info. It was NOT one of the providers he reviewed here. I emailed the 2 providers he reviewed, and they had never heard of him. He checked out fine with the reference he gave me, and was a nice guy. Nothing bad. But, honestly I was initially nervous to still see him....it was clear he wrote the reviews to gain free VIP. WHY WHY WHY...is this a thing?! I strongly feel that Reviewers should NOT be rewarded with access to our info for simply writing fake reviews, or even real ones. TER is unwilling to remove fake reviews, which isn't cool. So...Why is ok for a client to write whatever they want? Don't you want an accurate account? If not, what's the point of this? Why is ok for someone to claim they had FS for a massage price, when FS didn't occur, and if it did...it wouldn't be at the massage rate. Now others might expect the same. In one of my reviews I learned that I gave a CBJ. Interesting...I've never done one. It would be great if we could trust the legitimacy of this site and its reviews more. A good place to start is by not giving away memberships. Or at least, verify with the provider that she has seen him. Maybe if we could set up requests and appointments through this site first, and THEN allow a review, after it's clear the provider and client have agreed to meet. It would also allow a chance to mention NCNS and repetitive cancellations fairly. Am I the only one who feels this way? I realize this site is set up for the clients, not providers..but I would think you guys would be just as upset...this is just one reason I prefer to go through P411. What makes this site any more legit than other review sites that are free? (Hint: nothing) Ok, my rant is over! Lol

As I mentioned....TER will not remove reviews, fake or not. I'm not the only provider who has complained to no avail. It's not the end of the world...just super annoying.

...not have removed one you reported but they will remove reviews. There have been incidences of them refusing to remove reviews that were clearly questionable. There doesn't appear to be any rhyme or reason for their decisions sometimes.

I can't say it's a trend because I am clearly in no position to have any sort of adequate sample size but I'm aware of several lately that should be removed but only one has.

Well it's good to hear that it's at least possible, and they do remedy some of it!

Agreed. I've seen fake reviews come down. I've also seen some that were obviously fake stay up after they were reported.

Reported by whom is the question. Ultimately the provider being reviewed has to provide the convincing evidence that the review is fake. Producing that evidence might not always be as simple as people assume. Until then it's largely a he/she said-she said situation.

Posted By: Fearghas
Agreed. I've seen fake reviews come down. I've also seen some that were obviously fake stay up after they were reported.

There's another way a review can be taken down even if the provider provides no evidence herself:  if the person who submitted the review can provide no convincing evidence that he/she had a session with the provider on the date in question, the review can be taken down.  For example, if the reviewer can produce no email or PM evidence that a session happened, or was even scheduled.  

But to your point, if the provider has convincing evidence, e.g. a threatening email or PM from the review author, that's grounds for removal also from what I've observed over the years through threads on this subject.  

Posted By: Jensen36363
Reported by whom is the question. Ultimately the provider being reviewed has to provide the convincing evidence that the review is fake. Producing that evidence might not always be as simple as people assume. Until then it's largely a he/she said-she said situation.
Posted By: Fearghas
Agreed. I've seen fake reviews come down. I've also seen some that were obviously fake stay up after they were reported.

Posted By: HarmonyMassage
A good place to start is by not giving away memberships. Or at least, verify with the provider that she has seen him. Maybe if we could set up requests and appointments through this site first, and THEN allow a review, after it's clear the provider and client have agreed to meet. It would also allow a chance to mention NCNS and repetitive cancellations fairly. Am I the only one who feels this way?
Daughter, daughter, don't you know
You're not the first to feel just so?
So let me say, before I go,
It's worth it any way.

Some day we all may be surprised,
We'll wake, and open up our eyes
And then at last, we'll realize
The whole world feels this way.

One of many suggestions (on the S&P board) was that TER issue a verification code number to the Provider upon scheduling a meeting. The client gets the number from the Provider upon arrival. The client uses that number to authenticate his review when submitted.  Sounds like it could work!

Basically: (1) WAY too complicated! (2) Not all Providers are "active" on TER. For example, AMPs would have no part of codes and verification numbers. (3) Like TER would want to be involved with all that???

Maybe you can come up with a better suggestion?

Adventage of a situation and the kindness of us.  They give a bad review and it effects us.  They give a great review with embellishments that make no sense.  Etc etc.  There needs to be a verification and appeal system for us...worth hitting admin but no guarantee of outcome.  Afterall, in fairness, the gents who had a poor experience or just saw it in the way they saw it deserve to make it known to others.  A conundrum for sure worth looking at.  

I personally feel that TER does an excellent job.  I'm sure that if someone felt that one of their reviews was bogus, then TER would look into the problem.  And if the review had several inconsistencies with other reviews, then they would probably delete it.  I know that when I posted one of my first reviews, it was not activated for a while, presumably because TER was conducting their due diligence.  I believe that TER scrutinizes the first few reviews -- for good reason.  

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