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Re: Phoenix Marie does not escort; here are her own words
simmonse41 20 Reviews 9394 reads
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I'msurprised that you didn't know that her and jayden are friends. But they aren't just friends dude: They are BEST friends. Everyone knows how jayden feels about escorting, so no doubt she has had some type of influence on jayden. I had already seen plenty of candid photos of her and am always surprised at the guys that drool over her. I love her nastiness, but can't see spending the typical porn star rate to bang her. Ther are simply TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO many other beauties available that put her to shame.

Posted By: Generalisimo
Simmonse41 is absolutely correct; many porn stars suffer from serious physiological issues. Spend some time with a few girls outside of a session and away from the set, it will become very clear very quickly. Are all porn stars these way, no but many are. They seek validation from being a porn star, that men desire them and are delusional that being a porn star is equal to being a mainstream star. They keep their demons at bay by abusing drugs and alcohol. It is sad when you see a young beautiful girl so high that she is barley coherent but is on set because her suitcase pimp drove her there and he needs the money. At times production is delayed because the crew has to get the girl sober or at least coherent so she will respond as she is gangbanged.

Phoenix has been available in the past and as stated, most likely very under the radar. When I first heard about her availability I was surprised as I have met and exchanged e-mails with Christian X in the past for non-porn or hobby related things. He is very critical and judgmental about girls who escort. Then I found out that they had broken up. I to had heard about the abuse and she is not the first or last porn girl in that situation. Hell many women find themselves in abusive relationships seeking validation. The trivial gossip I heard from a girl or two was that she was heartbroken over the breakup and wanted him back. Then I also heard she was the one that broke it off, who knows or cares. I mention this because if she was heartbroken then I could see her teetering regarding escorting because of Christian’s opinion on the issue and perhaps hopes of rekindling the relationship. I did not know she was friends Jayden James who is severely delusional.

And yes, she does have lots of makeup for her scenes which improve her look, I have seen come candid photos. I still like her body but I would not pay 1k for her. There are several other porn stars that offer great sessions for half that price and have great bodies.  

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Kelly is available through Pam but it would be better to direct book her.

And I've seen Phoenix's name mentioned occasionally in connection with photogirls.net


I've been trying to hook up with Phoenix for a couple years to no avail. I've chatted with her a few times and she's incredibly sweet and nice. But she doesn't escort. Here is what she told me in her last email...

"But I'm Still looking only for Love!!

Trust Me... I know that there is a vast demand for me in the escort world...
And after I hear extremely high $$$ amounts I stop and think why not...
But In the End LOVE is what I want!!

Thank You though for being Sweet"


I'd be first in line if she ever changes her mind!

Have you seen some of her stuff on Kink.com?  My badness, what a girl!  Baby got back!

While there are some major similarities between doing porno and escorting, there are also some important differences. Phoenix can pick and choose ahead of time which roles she accepts and who she works with to a large degree, on a closed set with a director and the semblance of a "script". In escort work, not nearly as much. Sure, she can turn down a client at the door based on whatever criteria she might employ, but that's lousy for business unless the guy is clearly loaded, disfigured or threatening.

That said, invoking "love" as her reason not to do escort work, doesn't really add up when she's perfectly willing to have all of her orifices stuffed and serviced by both men and women who are essentially strangers anyway, on camera and for money. The love angle doesn't really add up in my view (with the exception of dinner dates/overnights/weekends), probably more of a throw away excuse to keep her fans/client wannabees off her back. My guess is she has other reasons for avoiding escorting.

MfSD>>>>

I wasn't gonna chime in here, but what the hell. What a lot of you guys fail to understand is that a lot of porn stars have very deep seeded psychological issues a ranging from low self esteem to being flat out delusional as far as how they view the world. Phoenix was seriously involved with, and by most accounts in love with mr tranny cum swallower himself: Christian X. The relationship often involved abuse at his hands, mainly verbal assaults toward her self esteem. he would routinely call her fat and ugly while generally treating her like shit. She stayed with this douchebag despite this, and when i heard about how she clung to this dude despite the fact that he took it up this ass from various trannys and was known to cruise certain tranny clubs i Las vegas, i knew then that she was truly fucked up in the head.
Now, as far as her contention that she doesn't escort, i don't buy it. Her ad has been up several times on photogirl's website. They are an overseas agency and very reputable, so i doubt they would post her as being available isf she wasn't. Believe me guys, she is available, but WAY under the radar. Now having said all that i feel compelled to offer a cautionary note. Phoenix's body is Not all that. When she is not bent over, her ass is not nearly as round. She has more of a camera angle ass. I have seen her without makeup and let me tell you, she is pretty damn average looking. Of course totally done up with a shitload of makeup and fake eyelashes she looks pretty hot. I think what you guys are intrigued by is the nastiness that she brings to her scenes. Check out her scenes on kink.com to see what i'm talking about. But, it's not as if she would bring this to a session with a paid client. That's not the way it works.
In a nutshell i think the real reason that she frowns on engaging in the hobby openly is because she has deluded herself into thinking that it is somehow beneath her to provide. No doubt she has also been influenced by her best friend's (Jayden jaymes) negative view of escorting. If she had half a brain she would realize that she could retire early if she simple hooked up with Pam Peaks, Body Miracle, The luxury Companion and a few other reputable agencys. To not take the plunge and instead film scenes for sites like kink and bang bros for which she is paid the same rate that she could easily charge a paying client for a mere hour appointment is indicative of just how illogical the thought process is in some porn stars. Just my 2 cents.

Posted By: MfSD
While there are some major similarities between doing porno and escorting, there are also some important differences. Phoenix can pick and choose ahead of time which roles she accepts and who she works with to a large degree, on a closed set with a director and the semblance of a "script". In escort work, not nearly as much. Sure, she can turn down a client at the door based on whatever criteria she might employ, but that's lousy for business unless the guy is clearly loaded, disfigured or threatening.

That said, invoking "love" as her reason not to do escort work, doesn't really add up when she's perfectly willing to have all of her orifices stuffed and serviced by both men and women who are essentially strangers anyway, on camera and for money. The love angle doesn't really add up in my view (with the exception of dinner dates/overnights/weekends), probably more of a throw away excuse to keep her fans/client wannabees off her back. My guess is she has other reasons for avoiding escorting.

MfSD>>>>

Escorting in my view, would be a step up from what she's doing now. And you make a good point Simone, she could make a lot of money escorting. Plenty of guys would pay up to have her on their arm.

You obviously know things about Phoenix that most of the rest of us don't. That said, I think it really depends on the lady. I know Ciera Sage well, have seen her as a client, including a Vegas weekend, and enjoyed her porno movies. Ciera has never struck me as having low self esteem.

Some ladies are just bum magnets when it comes to the men in thier lives.  Maybe Phoenix does have low self esteem and figures her porn life limits her to the likes of the butt boy you described.

MfSD>>>>

Here is a youtube clip of Phoenix sans makeup.  Significant difference between the made up Phoenix and the Au Naturale Phoenix.  Once I saw that, I was like "Aw Hailll Naw...I would not cough up the 1K+ to hit that" :-0

-Derek

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbiOMHbK4Zo

Phoenix was still cute in her gaped tooth way, a little unkept perhaps, but she was driving to Vegas in the rain. The other chick was average. Everything I've read indicates Phoenix is a sweetie in public, but you're right. Paying up for a lady who has no reviews and seems to be at best indifferent to escorting probably isn't worth it.

MfSD>>>>

Agreed.  I would not pay a G.

Kelly Divine however...the things I would eat out of that womans asshole....


wow not hot at all w/o makeup. Scary and sad.
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Generalisimo4072 reads

Simmonse41 is absolutely correct; many porn stars suffer from serious physiological issues. Spend some time with a few girls outside of a session and away from the set, it will become very clear very quickly. Are all porn stars these way, no but many are. They seek validation from being a porn star, that men desire them and are delusional that being a porn star is equal to being a mainstream star. They keep their demons at bay by abusing drugs and alcohol. It is sad when you see a young beautiful girl so high that she is barley coherent but is on set because her suitcase pimp drove her there and he needs the money. At times production is delayed because the crew has to get the girl sober or at least coherent so she will respond as she is gangbanged.

Phoenix has been available in the past and as stated, most likely very under the radar. When I first heard about her availability I was surprised as I have met and exchanged e-mails with Christian X in the past for non-porn or hobby related things. He is very critical and judgmental about girls who escort. Then I found out that they had broken up. I to had heard about the abuse and she is not the first or last porn girl in that situation. Hell many women find themselves in abusive relationships seeking validation. The trivial gossip I heard from a girl or two was that she was heartbroken over the breakup and wanted him back. Then I also heard she was the one that broke it off, who knows or cares. I mention this because if she was heartbroken then I could see her teetering regarding escorting because of Christian’s opinion on the issue and perhaps hopes of rekindling the relationship. I did not know she was friends Jayden James who is severely delusional.

And yes, she does have lots of makeup for her scenes which improve her look, I have seen come candid photos. I still like her body but I would not pay 1k for her. There are several other porn stars that offer great sessions for half that price and have great bodies.  

I'msurprised that you didn't know that her and jayden are friends. But they aren't just friends dude: They are BEST friends. Everyone knows how jayden feels about escorting, so no doubt she has had some type of influence on jayden. I had already seen plenty of candid photos of her and am always surprised at the guys that drool over her. I love her nastiness, but can't see spending the typical porn star rate to bang her. Ther are simply TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO many other beauties available that put her to shame.

Posted By: Generalisimo
Simmonse41 is absolutely correct; many porn stars suffer from serious physiological issues. Spend some time with a few girls outside of a session and away from the set, it will become very clear very quickly. Are all porn stars these way, no but many are. They seek validation from being a porn star, that men desire them and are delusional that being a porn star is equal to being a mainstream star. They keep their demons at bay by abusing drugs and alcohol. It is sad when you see a young beautiful girl so high that she is barley coherent but is on set because her suitcase pimp drove her there and he needs the money. At times production is delayed because the crew has to get the girl sober or at least coherent so she will respond as she is gangbanged.

Phoenix has been available in the past and as stated, most likely very under the radar. When I first heard about her availability I was surprised as I have met and exchanged e-mails with Christian X in the past for non-porn or hobby related things. He is very critical and judgmental about girls who escort. Then I found out that they had broken up. I to had heard about the abuse and she is not the first or last porn girl in that situation. Hell many women find themselves in abusive relationships seeking validation. The trivial gossip I heard from a girl or two was that she was heartbroken over the breakup and wanted him back. Then I also heard she was the one that broke it off, who knows or cares. I mention this because if she was heartbroken then I could see her teetering regarding escorting because of Christian’s opinion on the issue and perhaps hopes of rekindling the relationship. I did not know she was friends Jayden James who is severely delusional.

And yes, she does have lots of makeup for her scenes which improve her look, I have seen come candid photos. I still like her body but I would not pay 1k for her. There are several other porn stars that offer great sessions for half that price and have great bodies.  

All the more reason for we hobbyists to perform our due diligence, read reviews and the like. All that said, it still comes down to some degree of luck......no one wants to drop major coin on a lady who is drugged up, bitched up or just fucked up. I've seen Kathy Willets, Ciera Sage, Sierra and Danielle Dayne (Dai),  ladies who have shot porn and are also great escorts. On time, on thier games and on my cock !

MfSD>>>>

Posted By: simmonse41
I'msurprised that you didn't know that her and jayden are friends. But they aren't just friends dude: They are BEST friends. Everyone knows how jayden feels about escorting, so no doubt she has had some type of influence on jayden. I had already seen plenty of candid photos of her and am always surprised at the guys that drool over her. I love her nastiness, but can't see spending the typical porn star rate to bang her. Ther are simply TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO many other beauties available that put her to shame.

where could i find a list of the girls this christian x guy has performed with so I can stay clear of any of those girls?

PMarizzle4483 reads

That's not Very Nice... First Off... I Love What I Do!! I do not talk any negativity on Anyone... Your body... Your choices!!

I never claim/claimed to be Perfect in looks... But I will say I Know how to make Any Man Cum!! I have proven it time & time again!!

To say something like my ex or jayden influence my decisions is False, to discuss my personal relationship is Not Nice...

I Am Looking For Love, Who Isn't...

I Do NOT fuck just anyone on camera they are all my friends & I have a Yes List not a No List!!

I have thought about Escorting... I was on Photogirls Site... I just can't .. Though I'm Sure there are Amazing guys on Here... I'm just not... Who knows what tomorrow holds, but for now... I still believe in Fairytales....

Posted By: PMarizzle
That's not Very Nice... First Off... I Love What I Do!! I do not talk any negativity on Anyone... Your body... Your choices!!  

I never claim/claimed to be Perfect in looks... But I will say I Know how to make Any Man Cum!! I have proven it time & time again!!

To say something like my ex or jayden influence my decisions is False, to discuss my personal relationship is Not Nice...

I Am Looking For Love, Who Isn't...

I Do NOT fuck just anyone on camera they are all my friends & I have a Yes List not a No List!!

I have thought about Escorting... I was on Photogirls Site... I just can't .. Though I'm Sure there are Amazing guys on Here... I'm just not... Who knows what tomorrow holds, but for now... I still believe in Fairytales....

Don't listen to these scrubs Phoenix... you're a good looking gal (better without makeup) and you deserve to find love... if a 45 year old airline pilot is something you can see yourself with let me know!

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