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Posted By: jaydalee
This goes for any city just not VA if you pay for 60min,90min,2hr,3hr you should be able to stay for the whole duration of your appt.Not after you pop and there is still plenty of time left in your appt and she kicks you out.You are not dealing with a reputable provider.Not sure where you found this provider you mention you saw on the West Coast.But it sounds like to me she knew you are a newbie and she took advantage of you plain and simple.She tried to upsell you on the phone then you got there she did another upsell on the rate and then told you leave while you still had alot of time left.That is a bait and switch and not a sign of a reputable provider.  
   
 The rates posted on her website and/or ads is the rate unless you are looking for greek or a fetish which may be an additional fee.BUt if you are just looking for GFE the rate posted is what you pay not anymore unless you decide to extend your time longer than you originally booked.Reputable providers have flat rates for their time so there should be no surprises with a higher rate you should pay in person.  
   
 I suggest reading reviews do a google search on the provider's phone# and email address to read her reviews.  
 Go with a provider that has quite a few reviews 10+ reviews.  
 I don't know what GFE+ means but everyone has their own definition of what GFE means.  
 No one is going to get mad at you if you pop fast you paid for a specific amount of time so whether you can go another round,just talking,getting a body rub in between rounds you should not have to leave until your time is up or if you decide to leave early.  
 I wouldn't recommend jerking off beforehand.  
   
 When you first arrive you can discuss the light things you would like to do such as lingerie or going at a slower pace,etc. that should not be an issue.As long as it is something as a wardrobe requests not explicit talk.Some ladies not all will accommodate your wardrobe request prior to your appt.  
 Just mention you like to see a woman in lingerie no need to remove it right away.You have to speak up us providers do not know what you are thinking.Since every guy is different on his likes/wants.  
   
 I would suggest 60min to 90min appts since you are new and if you like later on down the line book longer appts 2+hrs.  
   
 Good luck to you have fun!  
   
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Good advice on  booking time with professionals.

Still semi newbie here and need help understanding Northern VA lingo and also general advice in how to have a better experience than my first couple attempts... Reading actual reviews in this area of course has helped me a lot, but still have general questions tailored to northern va area...

1) What's the difference between "GFE" and "GFE plus" and what does that even mean especially for a new male client to a girl?  

I know GFE means girlfriend experience but in reality, I didn't really notice much difference when I was in the west coast recently.  No matter what it is usually "cum and you're out" (even after 5 minutes of doing the deed!).  What's the difference between "GFE" and "GFE plus" here in Northern Virginia?  Seems like only $40 difference, which is weird to me.

2) how to choose appropriate "length of time" for a new male client for a girl?

I recently was in west coast, purchased 60 minutes outcall.  I was a brand new client to her.  She tried to recommend on the phone 90 minutes as "60 minutes was introductory".  When she got there instead of 300 roses as advertised, it was actually 600 roses to actually have sex.  I did have it on me at the time, and wasn't thinking with my brain, so I paid it, however, to make matters worse, she was just there for 20 minutes and then left as soon as I chummed. Really left a bad impression for any "roses"/price that is advertised online to me.  :(  

I just want to be better prepared next time with my own expectations and what's really behind the roses quoted on websites sometimes and what is reasonable/how it works in northern va.  Are prices around here generally what's advertised?  I know TER helps a LOT in that regard because I can see the last review and see what they did and how much they paid.

3) No matter which length of time I go for: 45, 60, 90, 120 minutes etc, do I still get kicked out after 5 minutes if I cum during the deed?  

  Should I jerk off and cum before I see them so I last longer and enjoy it longer (the full time length I purchased)?  I just don't do this very often so I'm super excited about the whole experience and tend to cum really fast.  Do they get not happy in general if you are with them longer than 20 minutes (but you paid for 2 hours?).  I don't want them angry at me of course.  The more relaxed they are with me and the more I'm super nice/sweet to them, in general, the better experience I have with them.

3) What's the best way to ask for light things that turn me on that, in my limited experience, might not be that very typical for (especially if their English is limited or they have a routine and massage is first?).  Such things as:  asking them to put on or keep on their lingerie?  bra/panties?  asking them to take it slow with me and don't undress right away.  Just light touch/foreplay in just undies for a while (she touch me, I touch her? Sex with her lingerie/bra/panties on (turn on for me too).

  I've had trouble figuring this out (if it's even possible).  They always greet me in nice stuff but pretty much every single one of them strip immediately and for me feels way to fast, not as much turn on sometimes for me.

  Of course I know just simply attempting communicating what I want is key, but don't want to appear pushy, demanding, or make them feel uncomfortable with me (if they are uncomfortable, the experience is definitely not a nice, I've learned through forums).  Also sometimes English is difficult for them so that's a challenge to sometimes.

  Thanks so much for your own experiences and advice about all of them especially about the northern Virginia area.

Depending on who you're seeing in NoVA GFE and GFE+ will mean different things. I tend to frequent the K-girls and GFE is not pop and out the door. You'll get the full time. My more limited experience outside that seeing is the others in the area are also respecting the time paid for. Sounds like you were getting taken -- perhaps because you are a newbie and acting like one. Perhaps just poor research and got with providers lacking good service.

Time depends. A number of providers will suggest a longer period -- some to allow them more time to figure our how best to turn you on so you become a regular, others to get a better payment (but check the time/$ sometimes the 90 minutes is a discount on the last 30 minutes.

MSOG, multiple pops, is not a certainty but many good providers will allow it. Check the reviews and service listing on the providers ad site. You should not be getting told to leave just because you came. Treating you well after that is part of the service you paid for (they all say "money is for my time, not sex") if you're getting chased out early that should be reported in your review.

It's not complicated -- ask them exactly how you did here in. Now, if those examples are nothing like what you're really interested in asking them be careful; you always have to respect their boundaries and if they say no or are clearly uncomfortable with where the discussion is going back off immediately. You may have learned that repeats are not advised but you still need to act civilly and not like some brute. Just be polite -- you'll get over the nerves with practice and the quality providers will work with you to make that communication ease and pleasant for you.

GFE experience usually includes multiple pops, at least where I'm from. But that's an elastic phrase, and it means different things to different providers. I don't take anything for granted on that count, and pay careful attention to reviews. If you're seeing unreviewed girls, I wouldn't.  

I have no idea what GFE+ means. Often that sort of thing is about covers or Greek, but I don't want to speculate. You can ask the girl, if you do it discreetly enough. But I won't recommend you do so, as some think it presumptuous or dangerous.  

Even if a provider doesn't allow for more than one climax, I leave when I want within the agreed upon time. They shouldn't be kicking you out after five or twenty minutes if you paid for an hour. Personally, I'd prefer not to stick around for 55 minutes after the deed, but that should be my decision. This is something else you should learn about from reviews.  

The 300 to 600 upsell for any sex at all is what we call "bait and switch," and you don't have to stand for it. Once again, that's something that should be screamed about in reviews.  

As far as communication, I'd be as vocal and forceful as you feel necessary. If language is a problem either don't see those girls, learn a sort of pantomime, or just follow their lead if you're okay with that. I've found it's much better to ask for what I want than compromise, especially considering how much money we lay down.

Should have added, though again it depends on who you're talking about, GFE+ can mean CIM and that is what the extra 40 is for. Again, not universal in usage but that was one setting where the term was specifically applied in NoVA.

GFE = Kissing, BBBJ, DATY, etc

GFE Plus = CIM, COB/COF possibly Greek  

PSE gets a little tricky. For some it may mean Greek, SS (stripper slide) BBBJTC, sloppier more like you seen on porn.  

Length of time has nothing to do with GFE/GFE+/PSE. Though it may mean extra OTC time depending on the ladies booking. GFE + may mean she is willing to be less rushing, perhaps a wash down with a wash cloth after the pop (mainly Korean providers). Some ladies advertise GFE plus to make them stand out, but after awhile it starts to dilute the acronyms, so it's a crapshoot at this point. Can't go wrong with reading the reviews to see if she really performs what you're looking for.

This goes for any city just not VA if you pay for 60min,90min,2hr,3hr you should be able to stay for the whole duration of your appt.Not after you pop and there is still plenty of time left in your appt and she kicks you out.You are not dealing with a reputable provider.Not sure where you found this provider you mention you saw on the West Coast.But it sounds like to me she knew you are a newbie and she took advantage of you plain and simple.She tried to upsell you on the phone then you got there she did another upsell on the rate and then told you leave while you still had alot of time left.That is a bait and switch and not a sign of a reputable provider.

The rates posted on her website and/or ads is the rate unless you are looking for greek or a fetish which may be an additional fee.BUt if you are just looking for GFE the rate posted is what you pay not anymore unless you decide to extend your time longer than you originally booked.Reputable providers have flat rates for their time so there should be no surprises with a higher rate you should pay in person.

I suggest reading reviews do a google search on the provider's phone# and email address to read her reviews.
Go with a provider that has quite a few reviews 10+ reviews.
I don't know what GFE+ means but everyone has their own definition of what GFE means.
No one is going to get mad at you if you pop fast you paid for a specific amount of time so whether you can go another round,just talking,getting a body rub in between rounds you should not have to leave until your time is up or if you decide to leave early.
I wouldn't recommend jerking off beforehand.

When you first arrive you can discuss the light things you would like to do such as lingerie or going at a slower pace,etc. that should not be an issue.As long as it is something as a wardrobe requests not explicit talk.Some ladies not all will accommodate your wardrobe request prior to your appt.
Just mention you like to see a woman in lingerie no need to remove it right away.You have to speak up us providers do not know what you are thinking.Since every guy is different on his likes/wants.

I would suggest 60min to 90min appts since you are new and if you like later on down the line book longer appts 2+hrs.

Good luck to you have fun!

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-- Modified on 2/25/2017 7:48:32 AM

Awesome lady, and thank you for your attitude Miss Jaydalee.  But they're are plenty "reputable providers" that will hint that it is time to leave after a client has went.  I have seen some ladies and asked for certain outfit requests, just to show up and hear "oh I didn't pack heels"(my fave).  These are the facts, some ladies are good hearted in nature and want you to have a good time and return, others just want that $500 or so and on to the next one.  

Posted By: jaydalee
This goes for any city just not VA if you pay for 60min,90min,2hr,3hr you should be able to stay for the whole duration of your appt.Not after you pop and there is still plenty of time left in your appt and she kicks you out.You are not dealing with a reputable provider.Not sure where you found this provider you mention you saw on the West Coast.But it sounds like to me she knew you are a newbie and she took advantage of you plain and simple.She tried to upsell you on the phone then you got there she did another upsell on the rate and then told you leave while you still had alot of time left.That is a bait and switch and not a sign of a reputable provider.  
   
 The rates posted on her website and/or ads is the rate unless you are looking for greek or a fetish which may be an additional fee.BUt if you are just looking for GFE the rate posted is what you pay not anymore unless you decide to extend your time longer than you originally booked.Reputable providers have flat rates for their time so there should be no surprises with a higher rate you should pay in person.  
   
 I suggest reading reviews do a google search on the provider's phone# and email address to read her reviews.  
 Go with a provider that has quite a few reviews 10+ reviews.  
 I don't know what GFE+ means but everyone has their own definition of what GFE means.  
 No one is going to get mad at you if you pop fast you paid for a specific amount of time so whether you can go another round,just talking,getting a body rub in between rounds you should not have to leave until your time is up or if you decide to leave early.  
 I wouldn't recommend jerking off beforehand.  
   
 When you first arrive you can discuss the light things you would like to do such as lingerie or going at a slower pace,etc. that should not be an issue.As long as it is something as a wardrobe requests not explicit talk.Some ladies not all will accommodate your wardrobe request prior to your appt.  
 Just mention you like to see a woman in lingerie no need to remove it right away.You have to speak up us providers do not know what you are thinking.Since every guy is different on his likes/wants.  
   
 I would suggest 60min to 90min appts since you are new and if you like later on down the line book longer appts 2+hrs.  
   
 Good luck to you have fun!  
   
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-- Modified on 2/25/2017 7:48:32 AM

Good advice on  booking time with professionals.

I can hardly remember the last time I was rushed out of a session before my time was up.
I do know that when it does happen Iwill not be seeing said provider again and it will make part of the review as performance number and on the narative as time being shortened .
Did happen more then once before TER but not since.

- I am in DC,MD,VA... and I don't think there's a difference on plus or gfe but more about upsell a service. (But everyone has the right to manage their business how they want). Personally I think the roses thing is stupid, I have my rates of my time. (Because thats what I advertise) ... lol but to each their own.  

- I found offensive to be honest, that you will do "tricks" to enjoy the experience longer, not fair with the ladies.  
And when I catch a guy doing those things or taken viagra not to have a good time but to keep going... not because they actually need it.  I would not see them again, and if they use me as reference I would give my honest reference.  

-When you BOOK a lady's time, (not "purchase" but that's just me). if you book a date with me for two hours, well; we enjoy ourselves during those two hours. My dates are more like an experience instead of a check list. Have fun, talk, enjoy a glass of wine, share some fruit, a body rub, etc.  
I am not a robot and I hate being treated like it. Every date is different and I do prefer as minimum 90 minutes sessions. I do have an hour date but I don't take those as priority to be honest.  

- What kind of girls are you meeting? Limited English!?  
Are you meeting agency, AMP's? There's plenty of well known ladies in the area. (Even from other Countries and well educated, hold college degrees, and fully bilingual.  
The sessions you are describing seems very mechanical, no gfe like (or at least no gfe that I offer and ladies that I know). Make sure you read reviews, check their twitter (most of us in NOVA has them), their websites, post ISO's on the boards... we all welcome new gentlemen!  

 
Sorry for the typos... Im typing from my phone lol

Posted By: alexrandall2015
Still semi newbie here and need help understanding Northern VA lingo and also general advice in how to have a better experience than my first couple attempts... Reading actual reviews in this area of course has helped me a lot, but still have general questions tailored to northern va area...  
   
 1) What's the difference between "GFE" and "GFE plus" and what does that even mean especially for a new male client to a girl?    
   
 I know GFE means girlfriend experience but in reality, I didn't really notice much difference when I was in the west coast recently.  No matter what it is usually "cum and you're out" (even after 5 minutes of doing the deed!).  What's the difference between "GFE" and "GFE plus" here in Northern Virginia?  Seems like only $40 difference, which is weird to me.  
   
 2) how to choose appropriate "length of time" for a new male client for a girl?  
   
 I recently was in west coast, purchased 60 minutes outcall.  I was a brand new client to her.  She tried to recommend on the phone 90 minutes as "60 minutes was introductory".  When she got there instead of 300 roses as advertised, it was actually 600 roses to actually have sex.  I did have it on me at the time, and wasn't thinking with my brain, so I paid it, however, to make matters worse, she was just there for 20 minutes and then left as soon as I chummed. Really left a bad impression for any "roses"/price that is advertised online to me.  :(    
   
 I just want to be better prepared next time with my own expectations and what's really behind the roses quoted on websites sometimes and what is reasonable/how it works in northern va.  Are prices around here generally what's advertised?  I know TER helps a LOT in that regard because I can see the last review and see what they did and how much they paid.  
   
 3) No matter which length of time I go for: 45, 60, 90, 120 minutes etc, do I still get kicked out after 5 minutes if I cum during the deed?    
   
   Should I jerk off and cum before I see them so I last longer and enjoy it longer (the full time length I purchased)?  I just don't do this very often so I'm super excited about the whole experience and tend to cum really fast.  Do they get not happy in general if you are with them longer than 20 minutes (but you paid for 2 hours?).  I don't want them angry at me of course.  The more relaxed they are with me and the more I'm super nice/sweet to them, in general, the better experience I have with them.  
   
 3) What's the best way to ask for light things that turn me on that, in my limited experience, might not be that very typical for (especially if their English is limited or they have a routine and massage is first?).  Such things as:  asking them to put on or keep on their lingerie?  bra/panties?  asking them to take it slow with me and don't undress right away.  Just light touch/foreplay in just undies for a while (she touch me, I touch her? Sex with her lingerie/bra/panties on (turn on for me too).  
   
   I've had trouble figuring this out (if it's even possible).  They always greet me in nice stuff but pretty much every single one of them strip immediately and for me feels way to fast, not as much turn on sometimes for me.  
   
   Of course I know just simply attempting communicating what I want is key, but don't want to appear pushy, demanding, or make them feel uncomfortable with me (if they are uncomfortable, the experience is definitely not a nice, I've learned through forums).  Also sometimes English is difficult for them so that's a challenge to sometimes.  
   
   Thanks so much for your own experiences and advice about all of them especially about the northern Virginia area.
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By "tricks" are you referring to masturbating beforehand? I don't consider that comparable to unnecessary Viagra use. The OP may be going about it too deliberately, but the fact is that most guys have to consider how best to line up their on the clock and off the clock pops, so to speak. To some it doesn't matter. They pop when they pop, and let the cards fall where they may. For others, timing things wrong can be a waste of money.  

I like to give myself a day or two without touching myself before a session. Not so as to have multiple shots or anything , because I'm always a one-shot guy. I do it because that's what leads to the most pleasurable sessions.  

Other guys, they get the best experience when they take care of themselves the day of. This could be that sort of guy.

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> I do have an hour date but I don't take those as priority to be honest.  

If you were paid the 90-minute rate for a 60-minute session, would you then magically find a way to treat it as a priority?

Unfortunately not all of us can afford to pay ~$300+/hr for 'talk time' in addition to the main event. I can talk to people at work for free.

have TER VIP so you can read the juicy details in the reviews to see if the provider offers MSOG? (2) Was this provider well-reviewed--meaning did she have multiple (6 or more) good or better reviews from established reviewers?  

As far as making requests, other than attire requests, anything else should be discussed AFTER you are with her behind closed doors; perhaps while you are sitting on the sofa for the "get to know you chat".  

Posted By: keystonekid
have TER VIP so you can read the juicy details in the reviews to see if the provider offers MSOG? (2) Was this provider well-reviewed--meaning did she have multiple (6 or more) good or better reviews from established reviewers?  
   
 As far as making requests, other than attire requests, anything else should be discussed AFTER you are with her behind closed doors; perhaps while you are sitting on the sofa for the "get to know you chat".  
Good point.

Thanks everyone.  Super good tips.  Yes I tried to contact reviewed girls however they were busy, I wanted to see someone that night and contacted a non reviewed girl.  Lesson learned big time.  My own fault.  Will never do that again.

Thanks also for the GFE and the GFE PLUS explanations.  Helps very much.

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