I belong to P411 for verification but not the other services, so I can't say for sure but it is inconsistent among the ladies. Some want references and won't take a date check. For some guys it may be a cost issue to subscribe to date check places. I understand your thoughts but it seems like you might be missing out on some great guys! Oh, heres another thought, most date check places require a credit card, maybe the married guys don't want a plastic trail that could be seen by their spouse?

You require what you do for your safety and post it clearly. Some ladies do not require as much, but that is their choice.  I figure if a guy has WL and DC refs then he will be able to meet 99% of the ladies' requirements and make setting dates easy. So it makes sense to do so. Obviously new guys have to start somewhere and maybe that is where the conflicts are coming from.  Bottom line is no lady is obligated to see anyone she does not feel comfortable seeing and as long as her screening requirements are made plain then guys can learn what they will need to see her and that it may take some resume building.  I can testify that you really are a sweetheart and want a smooth process. Sorry if I rambled.

in my experience, I get much more accurate and candid information through references.  IMHO a lady is much LESS likely to say anything negative about a gentleman when she's doing so publicly and attaching her name to her comments.

case in point:  I recently saw a guy with two Date Check "highly recommended" ratings, both very recent.  he said he'd been hobbying for years but just joined DC.  I was in a hurry (never good!), accepted it and saw the guy.  he overstayed his time by half again his booked time - omg, if he'd sat down and started talking one more time, I didn't know WHAT I was going to do!  and there was no additional compensation:  "this is all I have, sorry".  plus there were a few other things I'd have liked to know in advance, just to be properly prepared.  

after the fact, I got into a discussion about this guy with a few other ladies.  it turned out he'd shorted one, he overstayed with everyone, and the other issues were consistent as well.  apparently, he had a long history NOT reflected in his Date Check profile.  so WHY did these two ladies "highly recommend" him? I called them and asked.   one told me she "didn't want to hurt his feelings".  the other told me, "yes, he overstayed, and no, he didn't pay me...but it was okay".

I like DC, whitelists and P411 for their ease of use...but then I contact a few of the ladies directly.  by talking to several, if there's a trend I'll soon spot it.  if one lady gives me a completely different story, I'll take that with a grain of salt.

When I got into the hobby I only wanted to join one site and TER seemed to be the best outta the lot.  The need never arose to join any other sites my whitelist referrals always got me through to most.

Im personally guility of doing what your talking about lol. Yes I read your screening faq and I still sent in a request even tho it lacked alot of info you asked for. Why? well alot of women put alot of stringent screening practices up but will tend to bend some of the rules if other things check out. Atleast this has been the case for me.


A provider turned me on to the white list system when I first started Thank god because it used to be hard to get appointments with top ladies. I find that the higher class ladies will whitelist you without asking. they just do good buisness.

I do understand the credit card thing but with prepaid cards being so readily available-I might have thought this is a moot point but do understand guys being super careful & concerned about any trail-especially to an escort site.

As far as cost, funny how we all have our limits on spending on certain things (me included). A guy can spend $500 for an hour with a lady he does not even know if he will click with but not x amount (I think around $130) for a lifetime membership at DC.

J.Marie, I did just have this exact issue. A client who I really like & has been insanely generous with me asked for a reference. (He is not on DC) I was actually shocked when he asked for one knowing my assistant had only told him 2 days before he could not book without prepaying because he had cancelled before. I did not want to give him a reference because he has been a little flakey with me but he can be amazing. After a few hours I decided to just tell the girl exactly what I just said-what she does is up to her but if he was only on DC, she would have only seen a good vouch. I have at times gone to DC and changed a clients ratings if a similar issue comes up.

I wish we could all just behave-lol!!
xxooxox

My only concern would be to point out that DateCheck is NOT the end-all

You can get to be a member of Date Check without them having ANY of your real information.
They don't have any of mine.
No, I'm not going to explain how publicly. That would be like a handbook for the sleazy and scary to follow. I have no desire to help them.

My point is that, in my opinion, blindly following Date Check could end up being a recipe for disaster.
It's my opinion that a lady is not TRULY safe, unless she knows the guys actual name and info.
Yes, I know there are very vocal guys who are adamantly against this, so let's not turn this thread sideways in a discussion of that. We've heard the rhetoric, we get the point, save it for a new thread.

If a lady does not have the true info about a guy, then she won't know who:
left an empty envelope
wound up acting creepy or scary
got physically abusive
showed up unexpectedly
stalked
or any of the other creepy shit I've been unfortunate enough to hear about.

Just saying "well he's so and so from Date Check" doesn't mean diddly.
Knowing who the guy is, is an insurance policy for the lady. Just like insurance....it's something you have that you hope you never have to use.

Just another reason I'd be a broke and unsuccessful provider. There's NO WAY I'd be in a compromising position, alone in a room, with someone that I have no idea who they really are.

Screening is like a lot of other things. Don't put all your eggs in one basket (meaning don't do it only one way). Just because you've gotten away with it 1,000 times doesn't mean that time number 1,001 won't be the time something bad happens.

Just sayin'
DD

I like having references there as a good starting point for screening. At least that tells me that the guy has seen others and they have lived to tell about it. That's all it is, though.  After that I check some of the references, do alot more online research, talk to him on the phone and/or use other tools to get a better picture of who I am meeting.  References are not a good substitute for screening, but they certainly help begin the process!

I do not hold it to 100% trustworthy. I generally take each gent on a one to one basis as to what I require to make me feel comfortable.  I personally do not white list a gent unless I have seen him at least twice and he has to be a truly, outstanding gentleman. Some ladies just whitelist every gent they see and I personally (just my opinion) think that doesn't hold much value anymore.

There has definitely been issues where there were gents who are whitelisted, lots of reviews and yet they still pull things they should not.

I do use datecheck however I prefer P411 over date check. Plus I "always" contact a couple of the ladies who have given an ok or recommendation.  I have asked gents in the past how each of the sites have screened them and for me, it appears, that P411 is much more thorough.  However, I know it's not fool proof that is for sure.  If a gent calls me on P411 and no references, then they will have to go through my screening of work, etc.

I use to be very, very strict on  my screening and thankfully it has kept me safe and out of trouble.  I am learning to be alittle more easy on the gents but it really depends on how comfortable I feel and take each situation as they come.

Awesome question Brenda...and welcome to Florida..I am sure you are being treated well..

Makenzie